Things that annoy you about the TMNT fandom?
 

All fandoms/fanbases have their issues. What annoys you about TMNT's?

Using the FW series as the golden standard of TMNT: We all know very well by now that a huge portion of TMNT fans think everything TMNT has to be like the FW toon and they consider it the definitive version of TMNT.

The low standards of a big portion of the fandom: It's like a lot of TMNT fans will just accept anything, no matter how bad it might be, just because it has the TMNT label slapped on it. Like the Bay films, for example. They might have gotten a lot of backlash online but clearly a lot of people paid to watch those movies and some people in these forums actually admitted to watch them at the cinema SEVERAL TIMES.

What about you about the TMNT fandom?

The aspect of "Everything has to be edgy"

How dare the ROTMNT not be butting heads and being mean to each other? Why aren't Raph and Leo constantly fighting for authority?

You covered my main gripes. But I'm sure I piss off as many people with my opinions as they do me.

I'd add, no adult/older-teen oriented series or movies, aka, why don't we have our Netflix Daredevil or Guardians of the Galaxy quality TMNT yet?

A GOTG-type TMNT would be absolutely amazing!

Or even something Thor: Ragnarok in tone.

actually this pretty much covers it. Id add that the Official TMNT twitter annoys me its such a shill for the crappy aspects of the TMNT

An apt comparison with the space gladiatorial stuff. Triceratons in place of Hulk, yadda yadda.

Something with heart, action, but (mostly) serious tone. Though I'm much more preferring of Daredevil with a little more humor.

Anywhere on the Daredevil to GOTG1 spectrum, I'd be satisfied with.

That's not related to the fandom, since 99% of the fandom isn't in charge. Although you could say a large part of the fandom is also to blame for wanting TMNT to remain as a kid property.

The defensive comments even from within that allows the "just a kids thing" stigma to hold on and continue to shortchange what TMNT can be and actually started out as.

Beyond that, the main things are the things that bother me about modern fandom in general... In particular, the absurd amount of incest interest and the treatment of fandom now as a club for people to get attention. I don't know how many times I've seen dumb kids threatening to "leave" a fandom because they're not getting enough attention for their art and, more often than not, their OCs. A portion of fandom seems like it is hardly even about the actual canon characters and their series/franchise anymore...

Taking one iteration and believing that iteration is THE quintessential version and forcing it on others.

We all have our favorite renditions of the Turtles. But when you see/hear a discussion on one you don't favor and chime in with ridicule and how much your favorite is better, that's dickish and setting yourself up for an argument.

The franchise has been bounced around so much that at this point, I think it's best to just make discoveries to the versions you haven't seen, find your favorites and hold them dear, don't indulge in the ones you dislike, and leave it at that.

This. All of this. My exact feelings.

Well... that's a huge part of who their characters are. It doesn't have to be CONSTANT but it's part of who they are as "people". Like Jonny Storm and Ben Grimm givin' each other the business, for example.

Meanwhile, others have already said pretty much what I would say.

While those are both enjoyable, they're not quite what I want for a TMNT film. If anything, GotG's tone kinda annoys me at times.

Although I would not really mind a TMNT/GotG crossover movie for the heck of it.

This may be due to TMNT being 35 years young and having been run independently for most of its lifetime, but it's annoying how difficult it is to find rare behind the scenes and promotional materials for the movies and shows. It seems to me that other fanbases as young as TMNT are able to archive and share their rarer aspects in a more accessible way. There's a lot of stuff from the 1987 cartoon, the movies, The Next Mutation, and the 2003 show that has been lost to time or is inaccessible to the public. For example, The Next Mutation was re-edited for the 2012 DVD releases. Where are the original TV edits? I hope we can do a better part in maintaining TMNT's history when the companies fail to do so.

TMNT fans who don't read comics and people who draw turtlecest annoy me. Also fans who get offended when you don't pretend the Fred Wolf show is good or somehow deserves to be exempt from criticism for it's impact on the franchise, simply because they still like it themselves.

Endless amounts of Fans who want every version of the TMNT to follow the Original Cartoon as close as possible

We get it, the OT was/is popular, but it doesn't need to be the template for EVERY TMNT show/movie out there

Thankfully, it will never make it to the cartoons or comics.

Wanting any New Turtles to be just like the OT. Defending it being a 'kiddie franchise.' Begging for endlessly rehashed old comicbook storylines rather then want something original. Buying endless junk marked 'Turtles no matter how useless or cluttering it is (I'm not talking about the plastic dolls) even if most of the stuff is destined just to be gazed at, never used.

- The portion of the fandom that loves TCest. I'd love to burn them.

- The elitist edgelord part of the fandom that hates all the cartoons because they aren't 1:1 accurate to the original comics.

- Fans that demand the Shredder be in every iteration of TMNT. He doesn't need to be.

Well, at least he isn't in Operation Blue Line and We Wish You a Turtle Christmas (though Bebop and Rocksteady are mentioned in the second one)...

A whole bunch of crappy, wish-fulfillment fan-fiction but so few adequate fan comics that try to engage with the source material rather than load down the story with O.C.s.

https://www.cathealth.com/images/Cat..._at_person.jpg

Hey! Leave my 70 chapter fic with 30 OCs alone.

There are so many fanfiction stories out there where usually a teenager accidentally falls into the Manhattan sewers, encounters the turtles and then again accidentally stumbles upon a mutagen canister, turning him or her into another mutant turtle.

People who get repeatedly banned from forums but constantly sneak back in under new fake names is pretty annoying.

You'd think they'd take the hint that they're not welcome and that they're always gonna get caught eventually.

That's not exclusive of this fandom, trust me.

I sincerely wish there was no internet. Sincerely.

Imagine how f*cking weird the world would be without the internet. Literally all of pop culture would be different.

And nobody would feel compelled to ever share their opinions with anyone because they'd be under absolutely no illusion that anyone cares.

I'm old enough to remember it. A simpler, much better time indeed.

Probably the best piece of advice my old man ever gave me: "Nobody gives a sh*t, keep it to yourself." He was blunt, but he had a point.

This whole "nerd culture" BS wouldn't even exist. I can't even imagine the impact no internet would have on our society. We'd absolutely be better off.

Since the Multiverse is infinite, I can absolutely imagine a parallel Earth where we never became over-reliant on technology (and other people's opinions telling us how to think), and thus we didn't churn out a society of pale, scrawny/overweight, hyper-sensitive, maladjusted, overly-entitled professionally-offended nitwits with their skin on inside-out.

I mean, like I said, I'm ancient by modern Millenial, "Anyone over 25 is a Grandpa" standards, so it really isn't that hard to imagine since I actually lived through it. But yeah, we really f*ckin' screwed the pooch. Bring on climate change, bring on the asteroid, let the sun go supernova, what-the-f*ck-ever. Just get me off this rock already. Watching humanity swirl the bowl is depressing.

The internet obviously brought both good and bad things.

The internet has helped me discover a lot of anime/cartoons/movies/music/videogames/etc. I'd otherwise never discovered. And it was also how I was able to connect with people from all over the world, several of them who share a lot of interests with me, instead of having to confine myself to my own bubble.

Kids like snake will never know how surreal it was being able to talk to people from the other side of the globe without needing a phone or having to travel to their country for the first time ever in the 1990s and early 2000s.

One upon a time were the penpals...

There's still penpals. My colleagues organize that kind of stuff all the time.

As for the TMNT fandom, I've been blessed enough as an introvert and a stone faced stoic to not have to interact with too many people at cons and comic shops.

Though I did know a few people in high school and college who were WAY too proud of their inside jokes.

I would be like it was 25 years ago.

Very true, that part is still pretty awesome.

And when it's people from two countries that don't like each other all that much? If the governments would just cool it and let the common citizens have any say, shared fandom could save the world, dammit. :tlol: (While probably destroying itself from the inside out, but hey, at least it did some kind of good first. lol)

Without the Internet we'd still have fanzines which we had long before Internet. So it's be the same only in a smaller and slower scale.

Just look at fans whining about Micheal Keaton's casting as Batman, fans and fandoms have always had whiny idiots

I had forgotten about that. I guess I'm showing my age here.

My brother had a penpal from Finland back in the day. They eventually began talking through the internet but I remember how we'd get letters from her in our mailbox. I have no idea how they met before the internet. Probably through a magazine or something?

Probably used by older people who still grew up with penpals being a thing. I can't imagine myself meeting people from all over the globe by using such method.

When someone is toxic

This applies to every fandom

Some years ago, we played the fangames in the RPG section. Originally, everything was great but later, people became more and more interested in playing with their original characters, which only leads to confusion. Now, these games are dead.

There were pen pals section in the scandinavian Phantom comic book , 70s-90s