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AlZarkovski 06-26-2019 12:15 PM

TMNT #95 Preview and Discussion
 
First look:


80gmrp 06-26-2019 12:28 PM

Didn't expect me to be the first one to reply to this.

A good preview, and curious as to what else happens.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 06-26-2019 12:49 PM

It still irks me that Jennika is the crux of this story so far. I just don't care about her.

ProphetofGanja 06-26-2019 02:55 PM

I agree, Cylons, I need this story to go some more interesting places, cuz Jennika ain’t it dawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by 80gmrp (Post 1810408)
If it makes you feel better, Cylons, I actually have my own irk, but I’m not going to delve into it because I’m tired of causing trouble over it.

I’ll bite; what’s your beef?

CyberCubed 06-26-2019 04:36 PM

I kinda agree. When Slash died I was sad because he had been around since practically the beginning of the series, he went through a lot of development, then Bishop mind controlled him and placed a bomb inside of him, but he died a heroic death. He was well done from beginning to end.

Jennika never really grew on me, she got a bit better when we learned her backstory and some good moments here and there, but overall, eh. I'm not too fond of so many human characters in general, although I love Harold.

Even Lindsey isn't too interesting when you remove her from the context of the Mutanimals. Speaking of that I still don't know if Old Hob is holding Lindsey hostage or she's free to come and go as she pleases. Didn't she ask Hob for permission to go with the Turtles in the previous issue or am I remembering wrong?

ChosenOne 06-26-2019 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1810427)
Even Lindsey isn't too interesting when you remove her from the context of the Mutanimals. Speaking of that I still don't know if Old Hob is holding Lindsey hostage or she's free to come and go as she pleases. Didn't she ask Hob for permission to go with the Turtles in the previous issue or am I remembering wrong?

IIRC, Hob (sort of) offered her a job and Pete was the one holding her hostage. Don't quote me on that, though. I've always seen her as Hob's "employee" rather than hostage, so obviously she's free to come and go but would still like to have his blessing/permission.

Utrommaniac 06-26-2019 09:05 PM

The consensus is back:
https://i.imgur.com/8kUv9KQ.jpg

Pretty soon, someone's going to have to get Ma'riell into a bubble walker so she can explain everything she knows about Ooze. She probably knows more than everyone.

Redeemer 06-26-2019 11:51 PM

I agree with everyone's sentiment for the most part. I feel Jennika has been a rather dull character, but she has grown on me I must admit. I am hoping that this issue is not too narrative driven or a setup issue. I just want to seek some good old TMNT. :D


This issue comes out next week???? ugh.... I really wish this series was bi-monthly....The series would be so much better.

daggio 06-26-2019 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac (Post 1810449)
Pretty soon, someone's going to have to get Ma'riell into a bubble walker so she can explain everything she knows about Ooze. She probably knows more than everyone.

And after she explains that, she can explain what she was doing with Splinters and the Turtles DNA and QNA all those years :twink:

Igglet 06-29-2019 04:51 AM

This issue's apparently gonna be huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge, fellas. Tom's been hyping it up like CRAZY over on Twitter. "This is an issue I've wanted to write since I started working on #TMNT years ago." Looks like we're in for a ride.

Utrommaniac 06-29-2019 05:40 AM

Well...that's certainly something, and I'm going to hide in a foxhole WWI style while everything goes down.

shredder orokusaki 06-29-2019 07:16 AM

Iam returning very soon that why Tom has been hyping it so much. That the begining of my return.

MikeandRaph87 06-29-2019 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Igglet (Post 1810636)
This issue's apparently gonna be huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge, fellas. Tom's been hyping it up like CRAZY over on Twitter. "This is an issue I've wanted to write since I started working on #TMNT years ago." Looks like we're in for a ride.

Tom is active on Twitter? I don't do social networking. He never comes around here anymore. If he wants to tease how about doing it here?

Igglet 06-29-2019 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1810648)
Tom is active on Twitter? I don't do social networking. He never comes around here anymore. If he wants to tease how about doing it here?

Well, for one, Twitter reaches a far, far wider audience than this forum. Honestly, only the most hardcore fans dwell here seeing how outdated it is, and those said fans likely don't need any further teasing to be sold on this stuff. Plus, the forum also tends to be quite toxic at times so I definitely wouldn't blame any writers for avoiding it.

CyberCubed 06-29-2019 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1810648)
Tom is active on Twitter? I don't do social networking. He never comes around here anymore. If he wants to tease how about doing it here?

The entire IDW staff is on twitter. Hell, practically half the world is on twitter at this point.

Traditional forums like this have been dying since like 2010 or so. Most people barely even use forums anymore after social media replaced it. Every single forum or message board that I used to visit since the early 2000's is either dead or on life support now.

ChosenOne 06-29-2019 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1810691)
Traditional forums like this have been dying since like 2010 or so. Most people barely even use forums anymore after social media replaced it. Every single forum or message board that I used to visit since the early 2000's is either dead or on life support now.

Except for Reddit, if one considers it a forum/message board. But the TMNT community discussions on Reddit barely ever touch on this comic, sadly.

Utrommaniac 06-30-2019 08:51 AM

Now that I've taken a look at the twitter...and how he continuously describes it as "very important"...
And this preview
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-COHFYUEAEkYQf.png
"Even Donatello is surprised!"

I think the turtles (or at least Donatello) is finally going to learn more about their mutation.

corvus 06-30-2019 10:20 AM

I quite like Jennika. The way they write he is different, really subtle. I just thought she'd be significantly older than Casey, like older to the point where them dating would be weird. She was supposedly around the Lower east side before gentrification and Casey is like in his early 20s so...yeah. But i guess this is a very fictional version of new york that has punk gangs and alleyways.

ChosenOne 06-30-2019 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by corvus (Post 1810715)
I quite like Jennika. The way they write he is different, really subtle. I just thought she'd be significantly older than Casey, like older to the point where them dating would be weird. She was supposedly around the Lower east side before gentrification and Casey is like in his early 20s so...yeah. But i guess this is a very fictional version of new york that has punk gangs and alleyways.

I can't speak for punk gangs, but doesn't New York have alleyways? I can point out at least one in Rivington Street, near where I roomed with a friend for a few weeks while I was visiting the USA, and a bunch of them show up on Google Maps.

corvus 06-30-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1810716)
I can't speak for punk gangs, but doesn't New York have alleyways? I can point out at least one in Rivington Street, near where I roomed with a friend for a few weeks while I was visiting the USA, and a bunch of them show up on Google Maps.

I'm from New York originally. Manhattan really doesn't have many alleyways that are accessible to the public. There are quiet poorly lit side streets with nothing on them in very residential areas, which may as well be. Then theres a few like cortlandt and mechanics alley which are basically filming locations. The outer boroughs probably do. I always imagine tmnt taking place in brooklyn tbh

ChosenOne 06-30-2019 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by corvus (Post 1810719)
I'm from New York originally. Manhattan really doesn't have many alleyways that are accessible to the public. There are quiet poorly lit side streets with nothing on them in very residential areas, which may as well be. Then theres a few like cortlandt and mechanics alley which are basically filming locations. The outer boroughs probably do. I always imagine tmnt taking place in brooklyn tbh

I don't know why, but I'm getting a huge feeling of dejá vu here. I think we've had this exchange before.

corvus 07-01-2019 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1810721)
I don't know why, but I'm getting a huge feeling of dejá vu here. I think we've had this exchange before.

Maybe. I haven't been on this forum for about three or four years.

Utrommaniac 07-01-2019 09:34 AM

Pretty cool that you're back.

Also, here's the twitter posts regarding what Tom was talking about
https://66.media.tumblr.com/6e37d040...rw8miz_500.png
https://66.media.tumblr.com/6cd31295...rw8miz_500.png
https://66.media.tumblr.com/87570db0...rw8miz_500.png
https://66.media.tumblr.com/78f3081d...rw8miz_500.png

Yeah, gonna say this revelation comes from Metalhead??? Since I'm already guessing that they find out about Krang's connection to their reincarnation, I'm probably going to assume that Metalhead, already sharing Don's memories, has some kind of "memory projection".
Since Don already doesn't have memories of his human life, I'm going to bet that maybe he saw the Utroms way off in the distance before he was killed, and naturally doesn't remember.

CyberCubed 07-01-2019 09:42 AM

I’m not sure if I’m correct or not but given Tom talks about Casey a lot in regards to this issue and we know Jennika is literally on life support, I predict:

Spoiler:
Jennika is pregnant. Libby discovers this when saving her life, the baby is IDW’s version of Shadow. Also we are in “City at War” after all.


I wonder if I’m right.

Utrommaniac 07-01-2019 10:09 AM

Even if she is, there's no way it's going to be viable if she dies. Given how much she's bled out and how she's still pretty flat. I mean, gotta be less than four months. And even if she does survive, there's probably not much of a chance a pregnancy would. No amount of mutagen can't bring back what's truly dead.

Igglet 07-01-2019 12:27 PM

Inb4 the baby comes back as a mutant turtle.

Igglet 07-01-2019 04:23 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-az6w-U8AEyh-Z.png

Tom is having the time of his life on Twitter, man.

"In two days (7/3/19) you'll be able to pick up #TMNT #95 #CityAtWar Part 3 and find out why we had to keep this cover secret in the preview. Get to your comic book store and get yourself a copy to find out what awesomeness @kevineastman86 has behind the "?" "

CyberCubed 07-01-2019 04:47 PM

I hope this issue doesn't get too overhyped now to the point where people might be a bit disappointed. :lol:

ChosenOne 07-01-2019 04:53 PM

So... What is the likeliest plot twist or mindblowing moment to come out of #95? Let's list all of our ideas and see if anyone comes close!

And at this point, someone suggesting that Metalhead mutates Jennika or the hypothetical baby into a turtle will not be accused of crazy talk!

Igglet 07-01-2019 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1810827)
So... What is the likeliest plot twist or mindblowing moment to come out of #95? Let's list all of our ideas and see if anyone comes close!

And at this point, someone suggesting that Metalhead mutates Jennika or the hypothetical baby into a turtle will not be accused of crazy talk!

I do appreciate that both of the crazy-talk theories that you listed came from me. It means I'm doing something right. You all gotta step your game up, I did my part.

phillytmnt 07-01-2019 05:18 PM

I have a very, very bad feeling Jenika will be mutated into Venus. I hope I'm wrong.

Igglet 07-01-2019 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by phillytmnt (Post 1810831)
I have a very, very bad feeling Jenika will be mutated into Venus. I hope I'm wrong.

If it happens, I'm blaming you.

Utrommaniac 07-01-2019 06:07 PM

I mean there's a "secret" about to be revealed...Jennika mutating isn't exactly a "secret"

SimplySatire 07-01-2019 06:27 PM

Thank you! Also, I could give two ***** less about Jenny but I guess she's relevant *shrug* but tbh, she and Casey work better than Casey and this April. I don't really see them working together; I feel like they're forced or something.


ChosenOne 07-01-2019 06:46 PM

Here's a crazy thought: what if the whole Metalhead/Jennika/mutagen thing is just a fake-out? Just a diversion? Or rather, the part of the issue IDW is okay with us knowing about but not the big plot twist or shocking moment? If it was being planned as far back as the comic began, then it can't be that. It has to be something much more basic and core to the TMNT mythos than comparably extraneous things like Metalhead and an original character. It has to be something that was there from the start, in those very first issues. What if... It's Splinter (or Karai) donning the mantle of the Shredder? Yeah, I know, I know, I'm kinda obsessed with the notion of multiple Shredders, but it would make much more sense than something the IDW crew wasn't even sure would be involved in the comic this far into the future. You get excited about the elements you're working with, not ones you vaguely may or may not introduce years down the road...

MikeandRaph87 07-01-2019 06:50 PM

The only way to stop Metalhead is for him to be possessed thus Metalinka is born.

Igglet 07-01-2019 06:51 PM

Purposefully ****** theories aside, it's interesting though, right? Because, what secret could METALHEAD know, of all people? Krang being the reason for their rebirth? I mean, sure, but that wouldn't be hyped up so much, we KNOW this. Could it be some secret purpose behind their mutation? I mean, we already knew Krang wanted to build an army of Mutants. Maybe his plan has gone farther than we believed? Or could this maybe be related to the mystical part of the mythology, what if this isn't the first time the turtles have reincarnated? Just a thought, I'm tossing a lot of things out because nothing seems to stick.

I'm thinking Jennika being pregnant might be the only logical explanation here. Metalhead could probably figure it out, we've explicitly been shown Casey being in shock for some reason, and while it IS unlikely for the baby to still be alive... nobody said it had to be. Still, something just doesn't feel right, especially as this wouldn't be all that related to Metalhead, and I don't really think it's deserving of this much hype. Plus, I doubt Tom would describe the death of an unborn child as something he's been excited to write since day 1. I genuinely don't know what to think. Though considering the fact that I've thrown like 30 theories in there, I feel like I'm bound to get some of it right.

EDIT: Just to be clear, the only theories I'm calling purposefully ****** are mine.

ChosenOne 07-01-2019 06:55 PM

Was it ever implied that Metalhead knows a secret? Or did we conflate those two things? Don't forget, it's gotta be something iconic and visually impactful enough that the cover is being kept secret... That's why I'm going with something that harkens back to the early days.

Igglet 07-01-2019 06:58 PM

I think it might be a variant cover drawn by Kevin Eastman showing Mirage Shadow.

Also, I just realized that you're right. I was 100% sure Tom mentioned that Metalhead was the one who reveals this but you just opened my eyes, that's a real curveball.

ChosenOne 07-01-2019 06:59 PM

If IDW Shadow is born at this point, she'll never be 100% normal. Maybe there's a point to the whole Bishop origin story and his alliance with Metalhead that we didn't see coming? Hmm...


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