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Autbot_Benz 07-16-2019 12:57 PM

Thor Love and Thunder
 
Taika Waititi is returning to the many worlds of Thor.

Waititi has inked a deal to write and direct a follow-up to his 2017 smash, Thor: Ragnarok.



But his boarding of what would be a fourth installment of the Marvel franchise comes at a cost: Warner Bros.' long-gestating adaptation of Japanese manga, Akira.

That project, which was penciled for a May 21, 2021 release and had Waititi testing actors in a worldwide search for talent, is being put on pause indefinitely as the two projects' production dates began to bump up against one another. Script development concerns caused Akira to push back its shooting start and while some of those have been addressed, say sources, the dates were now too close for comfort.

Warners' next step for Akira is unclear but the project now seems to be in flux. Several sources have said that Warners is keen on keeping Waititi involved for the long-term and hopes to see him pick up Akira after Thor 4.

Waititi brought his own stamp to the Thor movies with Ragnarok, infusing the movies with an idiosyncratic wit and a humane outlook with movies such as What We Do in the Shadows and Hunt for the Wilderpeople. Audiences responded to the tune of almost $854 million worldwide while critics’ raves put the movie at 93 percent on Rotten Tomatoes. The move also rejuvenated what had been a rare declining franchise performer for Marvel.

Chris Hemsworth is expected to reprise his career-defining role as the Asgardian god of thunder.

Next up for Waititi is Jojo Rabbit, a unique Holocaust drama he directed for Fox Searchlight, which opens Oct. 18. Scarlett Johansson stars in the picture with Waititi portraying a twisty take on Adolf Hitler.

He is repped by CAA and Manage-ment.


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...thor-4-1224464

AquaParade 07-16-2019 01:06 PM

Shoot! I much rather see his take on Akira. Thor 4 should please many people though.

ZariusTwo 07-16-2019 01:08 PM

That blows any chance of me liking this one. I thought Ragnarok sucked.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 07-16-2019 01:15 PM

Huh. Interesting.

Cure 07-16-2019 01:18 PM

Uuuuugh, booooo! Ragnarok was trash.

ranger_scout 07-16-2019 01:29 PM

It makes sense to do another movie since Iron Man and Captain America don't really have anymore stories to tell and Thor is looking for new adventures. Plus, I really liked Waitti's work in Thor: Ragnarok and Hunt for the Wilderpeople. I don't know if Bruce Banner/Hulk will come back but if he does I hope that Ruffalo will give a performance similar to the one in the third 'Thor' film instead of the ones he gave during Avengers: Infinity War and the very beginning of Avengers: Endgame. It just came across as too hammy and cartoonish during those times.

CyberCubed 07-16-2019 02:41 PM

Ragnarok felt almost like a parody at times so I hope this is slightly more serious. Seriously the last movie almost felt like it was making fun of the characters.

AquaParade 07-16-2019 03:06 PM

I thought Ragnarok was one of the better MCU films. The MCU being something I love as a whole, but have plenty of grievances with at the same time.

Unfortunately, a large chunk of the MCU films feel pretty safe, sterile, and predictable to me. While Ragnarok doesn't really escape from that, I think it at least leans into the strengths of the MCU by being charming and funny.

As always, I think expectations play a large part in personal reception to something. So it's also worth mentioning that I didn't even bother to watch the first two Thor films. I like Hulk enough and the reviews were great, so I gave Ragnarok a watch and was pleasantly surprised. I don't have the perspective of a long-time Thor fan, just a casual viewer when it comes to Thor.

Candy Kappa 07-16-2019 03:36 PM

Ragnarok was one of the best MCU movies, so bring on more Waititi.

Andrew NDB 07-16-2019 04:00 PM

Ehh... are we sure Hemsworth would even be the star of this one? The way things are "positioned" at the end of Thor 3 and now Endgame... it seems like they're setting up an "important" new direction.

AquaParade 07-16-2019 04:02 PM

I think it's safe to assume Chris Hemsworth will be the star. It could just as heavily feature Valkyrie and other characters though.

The way to get my interest is Beta Ray Bill, who I do think will have a prominent role.

Shark_Blade 07-16-2019 06:21 PM

Thor Ragnarok is the best Thor, so I’m glad he’s returning.

Andrew NDB 07-16-2019 06:24 PM

I'm not sure there's any version of this where Valkyrie doesn't become Female Thor. And think about it. You really think Thor will be the first MCU franchise to get a fourth movie without heavily shaking things up?

Also, I don't know why people are surprised about Akira. When Ghost in the Shell bombed and Alita only mayyyyybe broke even (and with James Cameron involved, no less), Akira's prospects became nill by anyone even considering investing in its production.

Shark_Blade 07-16-2019 06:25 PM

They should make Akira an animated cgi film much like Lupin the 3rd’s upcoming movie. Live action never look as good tbh.

snake 07-16-2019 09:23 PM

Who the f*ck even asked for a live action Akira? Like, seriously, what's the point? It's hailed as THE anime movie masterpiece and critically respected in it's own right. There's actually no point in making it because it's something that should exist only in the medium it was intended for and perfected in- being manga and later anime.

AquaParade 07-16-2019 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1812741)
Who the f*ck even asked for a live action Akira? Like, seriously, what's the point? It's hailed as THE anime movie masterpiece and critically respected in it's own right. There's actually no point in making it because it's something that should exist only in the medium it was intended for and perfected in- being manga and later anime.

Fair enough. I guess I’m just morbidly curious as to how it would turn out. That’s enough for me.

neatoman 07-17-2019 08:13 AM

I just realised, this makes Thor the longest sub-series in the MCU (aside from Avengers, which are entirely team-ups). We're obviously not going to get Iron Man 4 or Captain America 4 (unless some other character takes up the mantle or it's just prequels). A fourth Spider-Man, Ant-man and Guardians could happen but none have a third out yet. Captain Marvel, Black Panther and Doctor Strange still haven't gotten their second movie yet. Black Widow, Eternals and Shang-Chi are still in development. And there's no chance in hell Hulk 2 is ever happening.

snake 07-17-2019 01:55 PM

I think it’s likely we’re going to get Cap 4 with Sam and Bucky.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 07-17-2019 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snake (Post 1812828)
I think it’s likely we’re going to get Cap 4 with Sam and Bucky.

That's what the Disney+ show is for.

snake 07-17-2019 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1812837)
That's what the Disney+ show is for.

I really wish that weren’t a thing. Just make a new movie, damnit. It eliminates the risk of these shows being ignored/treated as sub-canon.

And yeah, I know they’re saying they won’t be- but who really knows with Disney?

ranger_scout 07-19-2019 09:56 PM

Maybe this movie will give Lady Sif a triumphant return like Bo Peep did in Toy Story 4. It's also possible that the beginning of the movie can explain her absence like they did with Bo as well.

raph27 07-19-2019 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ranger_scout (Post 1813459)
Maybe this movie will give Lady Sif a triumphant return like Bo Peep did in Toy Story 4. It's also possible that the beginning of the movie can explain her absence like they did with Bo as well.

Yeah, one of my big gripes with Ragnarok is that Sif was completely cast aside, not even namedropped to explain her absence. Some have said she was shafted to give Valkyrie more of a spotlight, but I think the two are different enough to coexist.

Andrew NDB 07-19-2019 11:48 PM

That would make me happy, if they brought Sif back to the forefront. It even suits the "strong womyn" deal they're onto.

CyberCubed 07-20-2019 09:45 AM

Amazes me that Thor is still going instead of Cap/Iron Man. Beta Ray Bill was rumored to appear in Guardians of Galaxy 3 so he might be in this too.

Autbot_Benz 07-20-2019 08:37 PM

Marcelo Córdova
‏Verified account @marcelocordova

#THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER IN 2021 CONFIRMED! Natalie Portman to return as the FEMALE THOR!!

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 07-20-2019 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1813668)
Marcelo Córdova
‏Verified account @marcelocordova

#THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER IN 2021 CONFIRMED! Natalie Portman to return as the FEMALE THOR!!

Aw what the fvck. Seriously?

TigerClaw 07-20-2019 09:33 PM

Here's the official logo.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_9kFW2U...jpg&name=small

Shark_Blade 07-21-2019 12:15 AM

I love that Natalie Portman is coming back! :tlove:
Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1813524)
Amazes me that Thor is still going instead of Cap/Iron Man.

Because Chris Hemsworth actually loves the character and wanted to do more unlike Chris Evans and RDJ who wanted their contract to end. Simple logic.

Vegita-San 07-21-2019 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1813677)

Woke thor...joy.

RIP MCU.

Sumac 07-21-2019 03:49 AM

Looks like a He-Man logo. Very 80-s. Me likey.

newfan 07-21-2019 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1813706)
Looks like a He-Man logo. Very 80-s. Me likey.

Yeah it does feel a little 80's.

This was surprising to me, I assumed Thor movies were finished too. Not sure about Protman's character being a female Thor, but will wait and see how that comes to be.

ZariusTwo 07-21-2019 05:28 AM

They're taking another bold risk. Portman is dry as ice, and Lady Thor was a vital component of Marvel's infamous "woke" phase from 2015-2017 that almost tanked the company in comics sales

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegita-San (Post 1813701)
Woke thor...joy.

RIP MCU.

Oh a few bright spots aside, they've been a zombie franchise for a while now, people are just catching on.

Vegita-San 07-21-2019 08:54 AM

sigh


Andrew NDB 07-21-2019 11:15 AM

I was wrong about Valkyrie but dead on about Female Thor.

Galactus 07-21-2019 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1813711)
They're taking another bold risk. Portman is dry as ice, and Lady Thor was a vital component of Marvel's infamous "woke" phase from 2015-2017 that almost tanked the company in comics sales

No it didn't. You can repeat that false narrative until you every rube is convinced of it but it doesn't make it true.

It's not like Jane Foster as Thor was even meant to be part of Marvel's "woke" phase. It was originally intended as a short story but was so well received it was stretched out for years and done so successfully. Both volumes of Aaron's Jane Foster Thor series outsold Aaron's own God Of Thunder series which preceded it and at the time was hyped as proof Thor could be a top seller.

The character even generally sold well across the various formats. Digital, trade and the (apparently) all important single issue floppies. She succeeded on the terms even comicgaters set not that made a difference to their reception of the character.

A character that did that well was always a no brainer to be adapted into the movies. The only real suprise is that they've actually managed to tempt Natalie Portman back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by snake (Post 1812901)
I really wish that weren’t a thing. Just make a new movie, damnit. It eliminates the risk of these shows being ignored/treated as sub-canon.

And yeah, I know they’re saying they won’t be- but who really knows with Disney?

If we're viewing the comics as something like a test kitchen for ideas for the movies then Sam's reception as Captain America was mixed. I imagine they will see how the mini series is received to see if/how they want to incorporate Sam Wilson into further movies.

Xav 07-21-2019 02:35 PM

How would this even work anyway? Thor's hammer was destroyed in part 3.

Galactus 07-21-2019 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xav (Post 1813769)
How would this even work anyway? Thor's hammer was destroyed in part 3.

They could always build a new one. Eitri and Nidavellir should still be there.

My money is on Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness playing a role. That Jane's Mjolnir if not this version of Jane herself comes from another universe.

neatoman 07-21-2019 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xav (Post 1813769)
How would this even work anyway? Thor's hammer was destroyed in part 3.

There's an alternate timeline version of it that replaced the original in Endgame.

ProphetofGanja 07-21-2019 10:34 PM

Woo hoo! This should be fun

raph27 07-21-2019 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1813711)
Oh a few bright spots aside, they've been a zombie franchise for a while now, people are just catching on.

And of course, how would anyone figure that out without you coming into every MCU thread and moaning the same opinion post after post? :P

Unsure how I feel about all of this. I'm happy that they're actually going to do something significant with Jane Foster after all these years, but I didn't actually think that Female Thor would happen in the MCU, at least not for a while. I'm mixed about the concept itself, it raises a lot of questions:

Does she replace our current Thor, or will there be two Thors?

If "our" Thor is replaced, will he become unworthy?

Does this open the door for characters like Beta Ray Bill to come in?

The movie's pretty far off so I guess all these will be answered in time. Trying to reserve too much judgement until then.


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