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Autbot_Benz 07-20-2019 09:36 PM

Marvel's Phase 4
 
Official Marvel Phase Four Release Schedule:
Black Widow, May 1st 2020
(The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Fall 2020)
Eternals, November 6th 2020
(WandaVision Spring 2021)
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, February 12th 2021
(Loki Spring 2021)
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, May 7th 2021
(Marvel Studios' What If...? Summer 2021)
Thor: Love and Thunder, November 5th 2021
(Hawkeye Fall 2021)

In Development:
Black Panther 2
Captain Marvel 2
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
Blade
Fantastic Four
X-Men

CyberCubed 07-20-2019 11:08 PM

Surprised there's only 2 movies in 2020, and they're both kind of low-key (Black Widow after her fate in Endgame, and a new franchise which is unproven with mainstream audiences). I guess we can assume a third Spiderman movie will happen in 2021.

Can't believe Natalie Portman is really back with a major role no less as the female Thor. I thought she was done with Disney.

Sumac 07-21-2019 03:46 AM

Money can make miracles to come true.

newfan 07-21-2019 03:58 AM

There's a handful there I am interested to see. Some I didn't realise were being made.

ProphetofGanja 07-21-2019 10:37 PM

well I'm f#cking STOKED about all this :lol:

Toitlefan 07-21-2019 11:35 PM

I’m really curious to see what they do with the “what if...?” movie.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 07-22-2019 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toitlefan (Post 1813816)
I’m really curious to see what they do with the “what if...?” movie.

That's a Disney+ animated series, IIRC. Not an MCU entry.

Coola Yagami 07-22-2019 09:34 AM

Honestly after seeing Spider-Man Far from Home, the only movie I care about is Spider-Man 3.

The marketing better be amazing or a lot of these I'm gonna have to wait til they're on Red Box.

ZariusTwo 07-22-2019 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1813843)
That's a Disney+ animated series, IIRC. Not an MCU entry.

Bet you they have a race-bent Mayday Parker:P

Autbot_Benz 07-22-2019 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1813843)
That's a Disney+ animated series, IIRC. Not an MCU entry.

All The Disney Plus shows count as Part of Phase 4 so they are part of the MCU in a sense

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 07-22-2019 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1813861)
All The Disney Plus shows count as Part of Phase 4 so they are part of the MCU in a sense

Yeah, but What If, by its very nature, CAN'T be a part of Phase 4. It's all about alternate realities.

Unless there is something to bridge the realities, some sort of presence from prime reality in those What If's, then it is its own thing.

AquaParade 07-22-2019 01:32 PM

I'm very excited to see what they do with the amount of freedom and good faith they have accumulated. I am really hoping to see them break out from their shell, so to speak.

While these aren't the characters and stories I'd have selected, I'm still excited to see what they have come up with. Besides, if it were up to me, the phase would just be seven Spider-Man films, so it's best that I just sit back and appreciate whatever they come up with.

ProphetofGanja 07-22-2019 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1813864)
Yeah, but What If, by its very nature, CAN'T be a part of Phase 4. It's all about alternate realities.

Unless there is something to bridge the realities, some sort of presence from prime reality in those What If's, then it is its own thing.

Something like, oh, say, DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS?? :lol:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 07-22-2019 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja (Post 1813878)
Something like, oh, say, DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS?? :lol:

IF they do that. Then yeah. I'm not convinced though.

CyberCubed 07-22-2019 04:45 PM

Hm, just noticed, there's no Ant-Man 3? I kinda find that surprising.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 07-22-2019 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1813888)
Hm, just noticed, there's no Ant-Man 3? I kinda find that surprising.

Well, there's also no Spiderman 3. Which is also surprising. But considering they're doing this weird Disney+/movie Phase 4 hybrid, where HALF of the Phase 4 content isn't on the big screen...

I guess we can count on some of the more traditional sequels in Phase 5. Guardians of the Galaxy 3, Black Panther 2, Captain Marvel 2, Ant-Man 3, Spiderman: Valedictorian, et al.

CyberCubed 07-22-2019 05:50 PM

They don't list Spiderman because Sony gets to do that, but if an Ant-man 3 was in production they would have at least mentioned it like Black Panther 2 or Captain Marvel 2. I guess it's not happening.

ProphetofGanja 07-22-2019 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1813899)
They don't list Spiderman because Sony gets to do that, but if an Ant-man 3 was in production they would have at least mentioned it like Black Panther 2 or Captain Marvel 2. I guess it's not happening.

You're right about a potential third Sony/MCU Spider-Man movie, but I think we still might get an Ant-Man 3/Ant-Man and the Wasp 2; they didn't announce everything from Phase 5 yet.

Andrew NDB 08-26-2019 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1813843)
That's a Disney+ animated series, IIRC. Not an MCU entry.

All this time I was thinking "What If?" was a live-action show. I was looking at this article getting confused:

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/...FPIXb-JpUyWwi0

Animated is way less exciting.

Autbot_Benz 08-26-2019 01:59 PM

She-Hulk'
Ms Marvel
Moon Knight

are all part of Phase 4 also.

sdp 08-26-2019 06:46 PM

Phase 4 seems kind of boring, no big movies to get excited for and mostly tv shows which are also lowkey even if i'm sure they can be cool. I guess this cements the Netflix shows as non-canon though, maybe even Agents of Shield. Hell I guess that non-canon spiderman from Sony will be more canon now than the netflix shows. So weird how Disney hadled their netflix Marvel shows, by that time they knew they wanted to keep an eye on their heroes.

Andrew NDB 08-26-2019 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1817229)
I guess this cements the Netflix shows as non-canon though, maybe even Agents of Shield.

Why would you say that? Because AOS isn't there? It would hardly factor into "Phase 4"'s overall deal as much as it will be spending its time ending itself.

Andrew NDB 05-10-2022 12:25 AM

So hey, let's take a look at what's come out so far in "Phase 4" and where it might lead:

Wandavision: We know now it was basically just a Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness prologue, however that black lady is going to be one of the Marvels in "The Marvels" (formerly Captain Marvel 2). So it served those 2 purposes.

Falcon & the Winter Soldier: Obviously Captain America 4, which is already announced, with Falcon as Captain America and presumably Winter Soldier as supporting cast. I don't know what else. I don't think they were foreshadowing much with Zemo and he ended up right where he started. Sharon Carter/Skrull Sharon Carter will certainly be a part of "Secret Invasion."

Loki season 1: Loki season 2, of course, but also a light intro to Kang the Conqueror. Sort of. Who will show up in Ant-Man 3 and maybe other stuff, too.

Hawkeye: Clearly they have some kind of plan for Kate Bishop. Is it some form of Young Avengers, perhaps whatever team Valentina is cooking up.

Moon Knight: Eh, I don't know. I don't think this will end up being much of a hit and may not even get a season 2 so... maybe he'll just guest appear in this or that? Maybe when they need a heavy hitter in "Secret Invasion"?

Black Widow: This introduced Yelena, who's already shown up in Hawkeye and doubtlessly will go on to star in something on her own or otherwise. Since that Valentina chick decided to recruit her it's super likely she's going on at least end up on a team with US Agent from Falcon & the Winter Soldier.

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings: Hm. You know, it's hard to imagine beyond this introducing another giant CGI army that will show up to help fight some big threat later on. And of course Shang-Chi will show up to combat some threat when we're talking an Avengers-level deal happens again.

Eternals: A bomb, so all bets are off. Still, Black Knight is obviously going to feature in the Blade movie somehow. Also, I'm betting the death of that Celestial inside the Earth is the how/why of why Galactus suddenly makes a B-line for it. Probably this will either feature heavily in the Fantastic Four movie or will be one of the things foreshadowed in it.

Spider-Man: No Way Home: Depending on Sony's level of investment, possibly a sh** ton (Amazing Spider-Man 3? Raimi Spider-Man 4? Andrew Garfield Spider-Man in Venom?). Or maybe just Spider-Man 4 and Venom 3.

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness: Yeesh. The further adventures of Captain 2 Moms, I guess, and her adventures through the multiverse to find those 2 moms. That's all I really see coming out of this. Nothing else, sadly. But presumably a Doctor Strange 3 will emerge. Maybe they can actually follow up on whatever that black dude was up to at the end of the first movie that's been forgotten about in this one.

It's easier to see where the Disney+ stuff is going than the movies. About all we know is that Valentina is building a team and feels an urgency to build a new team (in both the end of Black Widow and the end of Falcon & Winter Soldier) and we know "Secret Invasion" is coming, which was a crazy story in the comics where it turns out a ton of people have been replaced by Skrulls. Cue the battle royale.

Sumac 05-10-2022 08:18 AM

The problem I see here, no-one will care about TV series nobodies.


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