It's quiet in here?
 

Hardly any one posts in this part of the forums, dang. Is it due to the lack of new episodes?

I don't have much to say about the show (other than voicing my dislike of it..haha!). I have to say though, I am curious to see when Shredder appears!! What do you suppose Draxxum's role will be when Shredhead finally debuts? Will he willingly bow down to Shredder or will there be a power struggle?

I'm also looking for the last action figures that were released from the show. Haven't found Albearto or Foot Lieutenant in stores yet.

That's about all I have to say about RISE. :P

"If you don't have anything nice to say," etc..

I guess there's just not that much excitement for this show. Not that surprising given how this is a forum largely made up of older fans, and how this show has very little in common with previous TMNT material. Even though the last show released episodes at an abyssmal rate, the forum was still active until a few weeks after the series concluded. I guess that it more closely resembled what's expected from TMNT is what helped it keep up the hype?

The funny thing is that the last show, with it's confused writing and budget constraints, might actually be a worse show in general.

Makes me wonder how the show is doing in the ratings/merchandising realm.

Yeah, hiatus paired with the fact that this one really doesn't offer a whole lot to discuss much of the time...

It terms of ratings, it does roughly the same as any other show on Nickelodeon. Though ratings for Nickelodeon are dropping in general.

Streaming viewership and merch sales are impossible to find.

It's a kids show and this forum is mostly filled with 30 year olds. And unlike the previous 3 TMNT cartoons, this one is further removed from what the core of the TMNT franchise is about not to mention how the Turtles and Splinter are portrayed. It's not surprising.

The Nick 2012 series had a huge following among adults, not just here, but in all other places like twitter/tumblr, comic book forums, etc. Rise doesn't generate the interest that Ciro's 2012 series did.

Rise has a really poppin' fandom, but it's not in any communities made up of grumpy would-be dads. Which is a lot of TMNT based groups. Tumblr goes ham for this series, & you'll see plenty of love for it on Instagram too. Seems it's landed more with it's intended demo- a younger generation.

Its true target audience don't even have social media yet.

I was waiting for that!:tlol:

I believe most of us on here dislike the version of TMNT because Rise does not hit multiple age groups the way the other cartoons have. So there is not many interested in talking about it when there is something to discuss. Rise hit its demographic more than the incarnations before it. That demographic is not present on this forum. I hear nothing about it, but I teach high school. They were interested in either '87 or '12.

Yea surprisingly, the 2003 show is known but not as well.

The 2003 series is very known. The official TMNT twitter posts images/gifs from the show all the time and they constantly get likes and replies with people talking how much they loved the show and want DVD releases.

Do you guys visit anywhere outside this dying forum? All the young hep cats of today are on social media, forums are for old people like ourselves.

"Hepcat" is one word, skip.

Its partly because after its sudden conclusion all that is seen in Turtles Forever. If marketed it could be different. The '87 cartoon made it a juggernaut and can cash in on nostalgia in marketing. Meanwhile the Nick Turtles are the new core TMNT that are also marketable. The 2003 series brought TMNT out of being a fad and into a franchise. It is caught in the middle is the problem. Its not what made it a hit nor the core of what the successor owner made. I mean I like the '87 cartoon the most then the '03 cartoon, then the '12 cartoon. One hit my interest the best and then the next fed my need for TMNT and also more mature interest (continuity and characterization) while the '12 cartoon tried too hard to cater to multiple audience that I only watched the original airings and don't think it will hold up in the different ways the other two do. Rise unlike the 2012 cartoon, what I thought was a failed attempt of reaching multiple TMNT groups is simply a kiddie cartoon without trying to reach adults like how we appreciate the humor of the '87 cartoon in a different way. If it is successful its hard to determine. I tried it, I did not like it, its not made for a TMNT fan, but kids. Hopefully the cartoons will not get progressively worse for TMNT fans, but it is what it is for now. Hope those in the demographic enjoy it. They just don't go on fan forums as they are too young.

This thread's title confused me until I realized the two typos.

:lol::)


The role play weapons/masks at my Walmart seem to be selling okay and noticed today that there is only one left on the hook. (Not that they can actually stack that deep per hook, but still.) The figures... not so much. Since I go past it once a week for work reasons it's noticeable that it rarely seems to change.

Yes i have twitter and youtube and i dont see lot of people talking there either because it is bad show but with all the recent scandals with perfonal data leaks on facebook and other social media soon they will be dead too. If rise was as serious as the 2012 and 2003 the forum would had been full of people talking about it but we are 30+ episodes and ihavent fought the turtles yet so not suprise that most people dont care about it.

I agree, this entire community is dying.

Outside of this forum, I have my YouTube channel for 2003 related stuff and I interact with some fans there, but I always come here because I feel there is a sense of authority, and it's easier to share and keep track of things. I don't really have a problem with social media, but I don't think it's designed well for archiving and frequently accessing resources like on a traditional website due to the massive amount of new posts being made everyday from people all over the world.

Good point. Most social media isn't even well formatted for actual decent discussion either.

So much of it is so "me" based and one sided, I have doubts about how well the future of social media can even support fandom in the long run. Someday the concept long-lived franchises could be a thing of the past if the fandom support isn't enough of a thing anymore, plus the amount of media competing for attention.

The Turtles are very lucky to have come along when they did, since older fans will hopefully be unlikely to entirely abandon forums like this and keep on actually wanting these kinds of discussions.

I guess it goes to show how interesting Rise is when users go off-topic about social media.:tlol:

Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to.

I lost track of the show after the first 10ish episodes aired, did they even finish airing the first season yet? I know the show is getting a Season 2 at least, but did all of Season 1 finish airing?

Nope. Looked up the list and the last one was ep 36, so, if the number shown on Turtlepedia is correct, looks like we have about 1/4 of the season still left.

Space that out with another hiatus or two, after the present one, and they could probably push that through the end of the year...

I fell out of the show too after the first dozen or so episodes. I think my interest just legit kind of waned. I never hated it and in fact enjoyed it as its own fun and weird iteration of the franchise from the start, but I guess it never quite "hooked" me the way the previous series did. I just started focusing on other things waiting on new episodes and then got lazy about catching up.

I've been meaning to go finish the episodes available on Amazon that I haven't seen. It just hasn't been a huge priority, admittedly. I've actually found myself rewatching 2k3 episodes and 2012 episodes lately, so that probably says it all really lol.

As for the toys, I did buy a Wave 1 Donnie and Meat Sweats but nothing else. They're actually still sitting on a lower shelf in my hobby room, unopened. I never felt compelled to get all of these, even enjoying the show, more or less.

To be perfectly honest (and most already feel and agree with this sentiment/observation), I just think Rise was too different to succeed on the same levels of the other previous series. I applaud them taking risks and trying new things, but even despite liking this show ok enough as an open-minded older fan, I haven't ever completely fallen in love with it. It's fun, but it doesn't "stick with me" like 2k3 or 2012 did. It's definitely more akin to the FW original, in that it's kind of goofy, forgettable and harmless fun - the problem there though is I don't have the nostalgia blinders for it like I do for the FW series because I grew up with it. Rise is definitely the first iteration to kind of not completely enthrall me overall (because yes, I even like Next Mutation as a legit guilty pleasure lol). I hate to admit it in a way because it makes me a little sad reaching this point in my own personal fandom bubble, but it's absolutely true. :ohwell:

All that said, I'm not the real target demo for it like many other older fans aren't either, and if it's doing the business with kids, that's good to hear. Plenty will grow up and look back at Rise as THEIR version of the TMNT, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. They'll get to hate some other new version in 20 years themselves. :lol:

There hasnt be a new episode for almost 1 month that why i is quiet.

This show isn't really for TMNT fans, it's just trying to copy the formula Cartoon Network's been doing for years. So no buzz, even the "influencers" Nick had on board when the show started have dropped off. There's just nothing to talk about when every joke's been done on another show.

It's really not, and doesn't really even pretend to be (despite what some 30-something year old diehard fans may say, probably one wearing flannel).

this show is a prime example of Reboot Limit.

You can only reboot something SO MANY TIMES before it's either not what it once was, or so different it might as well be something else.

I think the farthest TMNT could be pushed was the Demon Shredder arc with the mystic powers. that still KIND of fit, since it was the next level of ninja arts.
but after that, that's it.

not much you can tell in this universe without repeating yourself over and over and over and over again.

Even with that use of a demon Shredder, at least that twist was still balanced with the Turtles still being themselves.

Now it's just derpa derp, lets act stupid because all the shows are doing it these days and the kids think it's funny! It's sad to see the TMNT lumped in with everything else and just made to perpetuated the current lame cartoon fads. When does the weird ass shaking start? Since cartoons have been on the tired out ass trend for far too many years already.

It's a shame that eps with some actual substance are so few and far between. Most of them could be replaced with 11 min of the Turtles watching paint dry.

make it like 2003 or 2012 and it will be very succesful. people want to see me killing and fighting and hurting evryone not the turtles fighting some crazy mutants.

I just feel that with this one.... this is finally the TMNT that is not for us. I mean, technically the 2012 wasn't either due to us all being in our 30s or whatever... but at least it had some compelling multi-arcing storylines and it gave us new versions of the 80's characters only us older folks would remember since we were there to see the originals.

Rise of the TMNT is just flat out dopey kids stuff and we're too old to get it or care. I'm as rabid as a TMNT fan can get but I just feel no drive to wake up early Saturday mornings to hunt this show down like I used to back for the 2012 show. The 2012 kept changing schedules but gawd dayum if I was ever gonna miss an episode. Here it's meh.

Reminds me of Grandpa Simpson. I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what is TMNT now seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU.

-oof-
The line that encapsulates the entire agenda and movement as Hollywood kills pop culture....

Yeah this isn't working for me. And After Batman vs the TMNT it hit me as to why I don't care too much for this version. (Save Michelangelo who is less of the "dude Mikey" mold every version has been copying for awhile) I don't really care for the random adventures as their too silly at times even for the OT (debatably)

Leo can be funny without having to change his entire character because most fans thought he was boring. You kind of need the straight man in the group otherwise they're all annoying and too smilar. That said most will say that Donnie is the straight man of the group, but he is just silly in the other extreme while Mikey and Leo are silly in another way. That just leaves Raph....Never thought I call a version of Raphael the lovable dumb one Usually that's Mikey But for whatever reason he's the leader here but he doesn't really do anything other versions of the character didn't already do. Such as taking charge when he wants, confronting Leo and giving him crap but in that same vein gets a long with him the most. Only real difference I'm noticing is the show says he's the Leader and...That's it. And every other version of the character save comic books variants, would run verbal circle's around him.

And the defense for these changes are kind of weak from what I've seen. Like they like this version of Raph is sensitive but...Raph has always been sensitive, it's the whole mask your feelings through anger trope. Now you just toned down his anger and just left the sensitive part and made it so in your face his other quirks are gone. He doesn't have to be overly angry like 2k3 or too whinny like 2k12. Usually when I think of a version of Raph who doesn't rank 4th in terms of popularity for me it's 1990 and IDW.

Similar for Leo who is now 80's Raph. cracks one liners, seems rather lazy and cocky when it comes to fighting. Whole purpose mostly is to be the quippy funny one now. And I get it the boy scout perfectionist who always wants to do the right thing is a bit boring...Or is it? What if you just toned that down and make it a part of his character but not overly blatant? for a bit that was what 2k12 Leo was. He listen to Splinter but was still a teenager who was cocky, brash and made mistakes. And often pride and perfectionism were his flaws that he would overcome. Part of his humor was as mature as he would seem, the other 3 brought him down to their level. And when he did get childish or juvenile the jokes land better because it deviates from his norm.


If you like this version? More power to you. It's just not for me and I tune in but quickly lose interest as fast as I gain it.

What about the 2014 film? You actually think that was made for 30 something year old fans?

At least there iwas the main villian like i always am and fought the turtles and hurt splinter very hard! That how rise of tmnt should had been with me and my foot ninjas fighting the turtles from the first episodes and beating them but i will fight them again soon!