The show is being moved to Nicktoons (that is not a good thing by the way)
 

https://twitter.com/DailyNickNews/st...89639144181761

In case you don't know, when Nickelodeon moves a show to Nicktoons they're basically saying "This show isn't profitable enough for our dying network, let's dump the rest of the episodes on our even faster sinking sub-network". Essentially, it's a quiet cancellation.

'Rise' or not, that's a shame. The same old annoyance 2012 had after a while... they can schedule a big block of Spongebob reruns across that time frame, but god forbid the Turtles get to show a new ep just once on the regular channel.

Long hiatuses, nearly nonexistent from the reg channel, episodes that allow for feeling entirely indifferent about the series and lack of getting hooked on it... If it bombs they just better realize it was them, not the Turtles as a property. :ohwell:

Well, unless they scrap it, maybe it can have a better second season and save itself, but not holding my breath.



edit: If it bombs and ends after two seasons (or less at this point?), I know I'm jumping the gun, but with the Viacom/CBS merger, it would be nice to someday get something more the caliber of 2003 airing on CBS and just get the TMNT off of Nick and out of the aim of them wanting to make the Turtles for little kids.

Gee Nick finally realized this show was not good so they are quietly dumping it.

I really hope the 2012 series comes back, at least with a movie or special or something. Ciro sent several pitches to Nick, I really hope they get to revisit it.

As for Rise, it was an interesting experiment, but if its over, well that's it. I think it does give Nick a inkling though that you can't revamp/change the TMNT franchise too much to make it something completely different and expect fans, or even new little kids, to get interested.

I haven't watched Rise in awhile but I'll probably watch it all when it ends, but even then it is what it is.

Is it being replaced with more spongebob?.....welp first OK K.O. gets canceled and now this. And I don't even like Rise. But it deserves better than to be dumped into Nicktoons to die.

EDIT: Wait isn't Rise getting a movie? So this can't be the end yet.

Is there a better source than that? Don't get me wrong, I've never known NickAlive to be wrong, but it's still not an official statement.


My understanding (if I'm wrong, someone please correct me) is that the movie was greenlit waaay early in the show's life, and Netflix was snapping up lots of movie deals - we've already gotten Invader Zim and Rocko's Modern Life movies. They most likely said "and we'll do a movie of whatever the current TMNT is too."

Eh, the Netflix thing was mentioned in February, and this article was just a few weeks ago.

Chances are they go ahead with the Netflix and season 2 (as they may well both already be in production anyhow?), but if it goes beyond that is anyone's guess, I suppose.

Well, Nicktoons is airing reruns in October... https://www.tvpassport.com/tv-listin...445/2019-10-05

But over on regular Nickleodeon it looks like new episodes are appearing again at the usual time somewhere in October.
https://www.tvpassport.com/tv-listin...658/2019-10-05

It could easily be that reports of the show's death are an exaggeration. I'm not a fan, but I think people are being quick to jump to conclusions here.

I've always said, I don't think "Rise" was ever intended to be the "New TMNT™." Just a cheap, experimental thing they'd run as a transitional thing in between the 2012 version and whatever the next "big" (real?) version will be.

To be a succes i must kill people in evry episode and have a lot of blood and also i must be fighting the turtles in most episodes like in the 1987 series . It must be about me and my war on the turtles and Splinter like all the other versions are no the turtles fighting mutants . Now that iam returning on Rise the show will be saved because i wil teach the turtles aleson that they wil never forget!!!! The only good thing about rise is that April wears glasses. At least in IDW aim getting my revenge now!

Rise doesn't seem to be doing well because its strictly aimed at a younger audience. TMNT as a whole is a franchise that's for all ages. So by creating this series. They have alienating the fans which is the reason why the show isn't catching on.

And the problem is Nickelodeon. They are a Network that caters to Kids and only Kids. They do not want older people watching on there Network. Which is why they made this new TMNT show. To only cater to there demographic.

My Tivo has recorded all the episodes from Rise. But I haven't brought myself to watching them. Maybe I'm just not feeling it or something.

TMNT 2K12 worked because it was a show for all ages. Both young and older fans loved it. Me included.

Its unfortunate that Nickelodeon is moving this show to NickToons. Not many people have this channel on there current cable tv package. It would cost extra.

When Nickelodeon moved the final episodes of TMNT 2K12 to NickToons. I had to temporarily subscribed to Sling.com to watch them. And it became quite an expensive thing. I had to pay more just to watch this one channel for those weeks. It wasn't worth it.

Okay, so maybe someone only recently noticed the repeats on Nicktoons and just got confused.


Leaving people where really? With the best option being those online sources that shall not be named? So Nick and the cable companies shoot themselves in the foot by even breaking up their cable packages and shows on different channels so they limit the viewership.



I miss when the regular Nick channel was more of a mix, including those shows that were still watchable by adults. They went the way Disney Channel was going in tone and just went downhill from there. Only cartoon (excluding preschool stuff early in the day) that really seems to be allowed to stay on Nick, and hog up quite a lot of airtime, is their golden child sponge. God forbid anyone prefer the cartoons they make but not have Nicktoons on their otherwise preferred cable package.

With cable starting to lose its footing a bit to other options (such as Sling, etc) you would THINK they would wise up and start offering customers a menu to just pick and choose the channels they want. :tconfuse:

Unfortunately for services like Sling. Nicktoon is part of a package that comes with other channels you don't need. They don't have the option to just pay for one specific channel. When Nickelodeon moved those TMNT 2k12 episodes to NickToons. I had to pay 44.49 because it was combining the Sling Orange package with the Kids Extra package. And you would have to pay that every month. It wouldn't accept my prepaid credit card. so I had to use those Sling Giftcards to pay for it.

Okay but we've literally only got confirmation about reruns being on Nicktoons until October, and in October new eps air on regular Nick.

It certainly could be that this is the first step to fully Nicktooning it, or they're just putting reruns on it for a bit, or who knows? It's a bit early to make assumptions.

As I've already said, this series is the Next Mutation of the late 2010's.

I don't know why it's only coming up now though, since reruns have been on Nicktoons for much of the show's first year anyhow. It doesn't seem to have a consistent listing, but I've often run across it on there on some weekday mornings.

Ouch. I thought options like Sling might offer a better deal and considered looking into it in the past, but never mind. :ohwell: No way is that worth it for 11 minutes of an ep that likely contains nothing important to the series that needs to be seen.

I'm guessing you never heard of Nick at Nite?

I don't know enough about "Nicktoons" to know if what the OP is saying is hyperbole or a certainty, but others seem to be agreeing so, if that really is the case, I'm not sad to see it go. Better now than later... so they can get started on something more pleasing.

They had their little experiment... maybe they can learn what worked and didn't work from it and go in a direction more people will enjoy next time.

Nick should have proved to themselves with 2k12 that you can appeal to established fans and recruit new ones all in one show. You don't have to go full kiddie to get the job done.

I'm not yet worried about the future of TMNT. But after the disappointment of Rise, and two live action movies that both had mediocre performance and reception... the franchise can only take so many failures before Nick just gives it a rest (do nothing with it outside of comics and a few merch items to let the brand cool off), or decides to sell it some some other entity.

When i come to earth and become leader of foot clan evrything will be as you know it. I already have my foot nija army preparing thanks to my servants thenbaxter stockman will create a formula that will make it an adult i will find bebop rocksteady and some other new mutant henchmen then krang will come and become my ally and we will be fighting the turtles in most episodes . That what needs to happens for it to become succesful. canceling it only to start another one is not necessary. just make some big changes to it and it will be ok.

They've also got their "NickRewind" (formerly called "The Splat" -- so that's where that went), that airs on TeenNick (is this a channel even commonly had by people though?), but in the same vein as them having Nick Jr for so long, I've always thought they need a dedicated Nick Sr channel for all these old shows and new content for older teens and adults.


Though at this point I think I'm voting for a next TMNT to be aired on the merged CBS instead of burying it on some upper Nick channel people less commonly have.

Please stop. There is a RPG forum for that.

Don't waste your breath he keeps doing it and mods won't stop him either

NickAlive has indicated that the show is probably fine and this was just a scheduling gaffe.

See? Never get your hopes up, the world will just kick you when you're not expecting it.

The season season brings the show up to 52 episodes (although they're 11 minute episodes, so it comes out to less overall viewtime), and one movie coming.

If it ends there it's a decent run. I don't think this show has the stamina to go on 100+ episodes like the previous 3 cartoons, so if it ends around 52 eps, they had enough time to play around with the new concepts and characters and it'll be fine.

I would've liked to have seen more, any chance of this getting a third season?

I am with Cubed I don't see this going a 3rd season. Cancel it at 2 and go back to the drawing board and make a new cartoon that doesn't Alienate the hardcore adult TMNT Fans.

Would it be wise for them to pick up the 87 cartoon where it left off?
What if they relaunched with a he-man style continuation?

I think the 2012 series getting revisited in some form is more likely, since Ciro has expressed interest in and sent some pitches to Nick. They also still have all the CG assets.

I think we'll at least get a movie.

No, absolutely not. That is an awful idea. First off, the Fred Wolf show sucks and doesn't deserve a continuation just to make nostalgic 40 year olds feel validated in their misplaced affection.

More importantly however, said 40 year olds wouldn't even like it in the first place. If it really did continue the show from where it left off, they wouldn't even recognise the status quo. And even if that wasn't the case, the default way to write the Fred Wolf Turtles for the past 10 years came across as making fun of them to the nostalgia crowd.

It's way better to start from scratch. A Fred Wolf continuation would be a horrible mistake.

I don’t know much about animation development/business. Is this common practice? To just throw out a filler “in-between” show while you chalk up the next big thing? Seems like a lot of money wasted, but the show does sort of give me that vibe. It just seems like such an odd left-turn when what they had seemed generally successful.

What age are you? Eight?

Cut it out with the ageist snark. You're basically insulting and writing off the very people who gave you this website. The FW cartoon is the whole reason many of us are here and we love it, our affection isn't "misplaced", I genuinely feel the show is superior to a lot of the crap we've gotten after, except for seasons one-five of 23K.

Also, don't speak for that demographic. How the hell do you know how they'll react?

I will climb up on my roof and do a "Snoopy Dance" when/if they ever decide to bring back the 2k12 series!! :D

The show has very obvious flaws in terms of writing and animation, on an objective level it's bad and people primarily defend it out of nostalgia. You can love the show all you want but it's hard to argue that it's actually good, meaning that affection is probably better directed towards something else.

And any sneak peek into what a revival could turn out like has largely been seen as "making fun" of the series, meaning that anyone interested would likely get turned off by the results.

Whilst I'd just groan and change the channel:D

Eh, I'll pass. I love it for what it is, but as I was saying before, it's a product of its time and I feel like it would just end up like 'Rise' in looking like the creators would be trying too hard in a way that doesn't feel genuine or quite work. But they'd no doubt also want to update it, so...probably end up with that bunch of Turtles paired together with the kind of weirdness the likes of Spongebob has been sinking into.


If any series was picked back up and continued, I'd rather see (and had already wished for) that happen with 2003. The general style and tone of that one (sans those last couple of seasons) would still work well a decade later. (Hell, we need more serious cartoons that aren't trying to be a wacky, eccentric sugar rush with a Lisa Frank color palette.**)

A 2012 movie would be very welcome though.


** edit: Which reminds me I, ironically, keep wanting to take some TMNT line art and try to give it the Lisa Frank treatment for the hell of it. lol

Do you really think Nickelodeon cares if a bunch of adults watch their cartoons or not?

I'm all for a new show that takes place after the 87 series. But those Turtles and everyone else in it would be a lot older by now.

Divide and Conquer
 

Not if it takes place right after Divide and Conquer.

Rise is much worse than 1987 . I caused lot of destruction and hurted many people in the city. Like when i blew up the channel 6 building. And i was fighting very hard in battles and hurted a lot my enemies! What baron draxum has done so far is just mutating people into animals. Rise is nothing compared to 1987

Although... I'd be just fine with aging them up to the present time.

Would at least be a convenient way of doing a continuation that is similar in look and tone, but still "different enough" just by the nature of making everyone older.

Poor Splinter might be elderly by that point though. (But hey, they can tap into the relatable "taking care of an aging parent" thing that most deal with eventually. lol) A 50/60-something Shredder would be amusing to see.