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TigerClaw 09-24-2019 06:33 PM

Mona Lisa to appear on Issue #101 in IDW's TMNT
 
Sophie Campbell has recently tweeted that Mona Lisa will be debuting on Issue #101 of the IDW TMNT Comics. Check out her design.
https://twitter.com/mooncalfe1/statu...53606712012802

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EE77-VlX...jpg&name=small

daggio 09-24-2019 06:52 PM

I cant wait, besides her I'm willing to bet there will be more new characters post 100 just like post 50.

TigerClaw 09-24-2019 07:07 PM

I like this design. Its like they combined the original and 2k12 version. Also she's wearing pink just like in the original.

Fred Wolf

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20081119220151

2k12

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20151103180953

IDW

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20190921081339

ChosenOne 09-24-2019 07:08 PM

I particularly like that Campbell seems to have incorporated some of the suggestions she got right here at the forum into Mona Lisa's design.

TigerClaw 09-24-2019 07:44 PM

Here's a variant cover for issue 101 with Mona Lisa in it.
https://twitter.com/DustinWeaver12/s...01672430223360

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFA4iHmU...jpg&name=small

CyberCubed 09-24-2019 08:19 PM

Sophie talked about Mona Lisa months ago before this reveal so it now seems like those were hints she would appear. Also made similar comments about Rahzar/Tokka, so they might show up next year too, or at least Rahzar.

qt.bangerang 09-24-2019 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1820393)

An albino baby turtle!! Although it would actually have pinkish skin and a yellow shell. Super excited about this, can't wait to find out its story...might have to change my little albino turtles name to match.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 09-24-2019 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1820395)
Sophie talked about Mona Lisa months ago before this reveal so it now seems like those were hints she would appear. Also made similar comments about Rahzar/Tokka, so they might show up next year too, or at least Rahzar.

We can only hope! We really need the big guy. Not so much Tokka, but I won't complain if he shows up, too...

TigerClaw 09-24-2019 08:35 PM

I'm gonna assume something happened in New York. and a lot of people turned into Mutants.

ChosenOne 09-24-2019 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by qt.bangerang (Post 1820396)
An albino baby turtle!! Although it would actually have pinkish skin and a yellow shell.

Not if it's a leatherback, which I've theorized elsewhere around here.

qt.bangerang 09-24-2019 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1820400)
Not if it's a leatherback, which I've theorized elsewhere around here.

The red eyes is what I was going with for it to be albino.

It could also be a diamondback terrapin but it wouldn't have red eyes.

ChosenOne 09-24-2019 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by qt.bangerang (Post 1820402)
The red eyes is what I was going with for it to be albino.

It could also be a diamondback terrapin but it wouldn't have red eyes.

Oh, no, it's definitely albino, but it very much looks like a leatherback, what with that sunfloweer seed-like body, and explains the solid white color since an ordinary leatherblack would be solid black. Whereas a diamondback terrapin would have a more traditional-looking plastron, like that of the (other) Turtles.

funatic 09-24-2019 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1820393)

Oh man there's a whole lotta fun to talk about there. Albino bb aside, some sort of hedgehog mutant stalking them? Or maybe even the aforementioned Rahzar? "Mutant Town" eh? Is this where Mikey and Peter went in the second Ghostbusters crossover?

Also as ChosenOne said, honored that Sophie was working on Mona Lisa designs with us on the forums not so long ago! :tgrin:

Ninjinister 09-24-2019 09:55 PM

Welcome to three days ago, dude.

lonewarrior20 09-25-2019 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1820393)

Had a thought for an alternate cover down the road if the rat king is involved. Do a homage/parody of lyaberinth. I can just see him holding the albino turtle and mona having to try and save the day.

TigerClaw 09-26-2019 05:14 PM

One thing I noticed about this new design. Is how casually Mona Lisa is dressed. Its as if she's not bothered that she's a mutant lizard.

She's probably someone who sees herself looking cool due to the mutation.

Some people aren't comfortable with there looks. But there mutation happens. And they see themselves looking cool and bad ass.

Look at Bebop and Rocksteady. They are cool with being mutants. Because to them. They feel stronger and see themselves as a pair of bad asses.

lonewarrior20 09-26-2019 06:05 PM

It'd be funny if when she would get mad her feather/hair would pop out of her scrunchi and look like a giant mane.

corvus 09-27-2019 05:17 AM

I love that this comic isn't obsessed with the status quo like damn marvel and dc

AquaParade 09-27-2019 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by corvus (Post 1820659)
I love that this comic isn't obsessed with the status quo like damn marvel and dc

Yes, that is to be appreciated, for sure.

Hell, after not following comics, monthly, for over a decade, I got back into it with the initial Superior Spider-Man run. Believe it or not, by this time, I was naive enough to believe the Superior Spider-Man could be the status-quo for the next five or more years. I know how that sounds, but I wasn't up to date on Marvel's comic publishing techniques and they were selling the idea quite strongly in interviews.
So, yeah, it was exciting! "Here I am at the ground floor of an exciting turn in the history of Spider-Man! I can't wait to see how Ock develops from trash into a world-class hero!" I was picking up other Marvel comics alongside it, on my bi-weekly/monthly trips to the comicbook store, and enjoying most of those as well.

Then when Peter made his return a little over a year later, and things were essentially reverted back to the classic status-quo, the whole illusion really came crashing down for me. I remembered where I was and left. Stopped following Marvel comics monthly again for the next several years. Now I'm actually back to reading a couple, like Immortal Hulk and Hickman's X-Men. Both are excellent books, I'm glad to follow monthly. I guess, for me, the craft, storytelling, and art of a Marvel comic have to be absolutely 10/10 to combat the sense of nothing being permanent. That's a tall order in some ways.

lonewarrior20 09-27-2019 08:30 AM

I think the idw run has more female mutants now than all of the other series combined. Makes me happy to see them and know that they exist.

corvus 09-27-2019 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade (Post 1820673)
Yes, that is to be appreciated, for sure.

Now I'm actually back to reading a couple, like Immortal Hulk and Hickman's X-Men. Both are excellent books, I'm glad to follow monthly. I guess, for me, the craft, storytelling, and art of a Marvel comic have to be absolutely 10/10 to combat the sense of nothing being permanent. That's a tall order in some ways.

X-men has always been seemingly immune to that status quo crap probably cause it doesn't have a status quo. Whereas Spiderman is almost explicitly not allowed to grow as a character, and DC is even worse like why are Hal Jordan and Barry Allen still around? I think this is why i love tmnt and hellboy so much, there isnt a status quo or a floating timeline, characters grow and change, hell look at Hob.

pferreira 10-10-2019 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by corvus (Post 1820680)
X-men has always been seemingly immune to that status quo crap probably cause it doesn't have a status quo. Whereas Spiderman is almost explicitly not allowed to grow as a character, and DC is even worse like why are Hal Jordan and Barry Allen still around? I think this is why i love tmnt and hellboy so much, there isnt a status quo or a floating timeline, characters grow and change, hell look at Hob.

The Marvel and DC comics change but they are rebooted every five or so years. It's a way to keep everything fresh and exciting otherwise it at best feels tired and at worst ends up being one big continuity line. I'm not against that so much as my problem being the art in comics today looks boring and uninspiring.

corvus 10-13-2019 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pferreira (Post 1822166)
The Marvel and DC comics change but they are rebooted every five or so years. It's a way to keep everything fresh and exciting otherwise it at best feels tired and at worst ends up being one big continuity line. I'm not against that so much as my problem being the art in comics today looks boring and uninspiring.

Marvel has never rebooted their continuity. Unless it's been retconned its canon which is most stuff, so it's still cannot that Charles Xavier lusted after teenage Jean Grey and that Matt Murdock has had his identity exposed like five times. In some ways it's worse than rebooting, we're given awful in-universe explanations like what quesada did to spiderman

neatoman 10-13-2019 09:20 AM

And it's also kind of difficult to even call what DC does "Reboots". It's more like they make stories about the multiverse getting broken and repaired in a way that makes the continuity conveniently simplified. It's more everything still happened in canon, it's just that after such a story it's just that going from point A to point H (noteworthy story to noteworthy story) no longer require B, C, D, E, F and G (lesser stories with minor impact). H is now relabeled C and B-G are replaced by a new B (a story in which the necessary set-up for H/new C are grafted onto).

Zog The Magnificent 10-13-2019 03:33 PM

Yeah, that was always the most confusing thing about DC. The in-universe reboots that make you constantly question what actually counts reletive to the new story. That's one thing I love about TMNT. Every version is a new version that requires absoulutely no knowledge of any other version.

pferreira 10-24-2019 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by corvus (Post 1822382)
Marvel has never rebooted their continuity. Unless it's been retconned its canon which is most stuff, so it's still cannot that Charles Xavier lusted after teenage Jean Grey and that Matt Murdock has had his identity exposed like five times. In some ways it's worse than rebooting, we're given awful in-universe explanations like what quesada did to spiderman

Huh? Haven't they rebooted Spider-Man like five times already?

neatoman 10-25-2019 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pferreira (Post 1823575)
Huh? Haven't they rebooted Spider-Man like five times already?

No? Where did you get that idea? If you pick up the newest issue of Nick Spencers Spider-Man, the main character is indeed the same as Dan Slott's Spider-Man. Who in turn is the same character as Straczynski's, Mackie's, DeMatteis', Michilinie's, DeFalco's, Stern's, O'Neil's, Wolfman's, Wein's, Conway's and even Lee's Spider-Man. There are some resets to the status quo and retcons but the continuity is largely intact.

There are some alternate universe books and retellings but those don't really count as they haven't replaced the old continuity. USM might have lasted 11 years (if you don't count the parts with Miles) but it was published alongside the "real" Spider-Man books.

pferreira 11-08-2019 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1823714)
No? Where did you get that idea? If you pick up the newest issue of Nick Spencers Spider-Man, the main character is indeed the same as Dan Slott's Spider-Man. Who in turn is the same character as Straczynski's, Mackie's, DeMatteis', Michilinie's, DeFalco's, Stern's, O'Neil's, Wolfman's, Wein's, Conway's and even Lee's Spider-Man. There are some resets to the status quo and retcons but the continuity is largely intact.

I remember the last Spider-Man graphic novels I read were from like 2006 where Peter and Mary-Jane were married. I just keep hearing they reboot Spider-Man in the comics every eight years or so and start with him as a kid in school.

ChosenOne 11-08-2019 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pferreira (Post 1825055)
I just keep hearing they reboot Spider-Man in the comics every eight years or so and start with him as a kid in school.

Not really. Not literally, anyway, and the Ultimate Universe doesn't count.

pferreira 11-09-2019 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1825061)
Not really. Not literally, anyway, and the Ultimate Universe doesn't count.

So that means Peter is still married to Mary Jane and is an adult?

ChosenOne 11-09-2019 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pferreira (Post 1825091)
So that means Peter is still married to Mary Jane and is an adult?

It means he's still an adult but not married to Mary Jane, though the current run seems to be setting them up as a couple again and their chemistry has been great. 616 Peter has never been de-aged, but previous attempts to send him back to high school, in a way, have included him being hired as a teacher.

CyberCubed 11-12-2019 11:28 AM

I wish we saw Mona Lisa in issue 99. I looked at every panel but her design isn’t in those pages.

The Great Saiyaman 11-16-2019 03:05 PM

I can't wait to read the story.

CyberCubed 11-16-2019 03:57 PM

Mona Lisa probably won't have any connection with Raph this series since Alopex exists here. You can't give Raph two love interests. :lol:

TigerClaw 11-16-2019 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1825773)
Mona Lisa probably won't have any connection with Raph this series since Alopex exists here. You can't give Raph two love interests. :lol:

Maybe they can. But issue 101 is pairing Mona Lisa with Jennika.

Sumac 11-16-2019 07:25 PM

Its year 2019 - they can support polyamory!!

On the other hand, maybe they won't - it is too normal.

TigerClaw 11-16-2019 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1825809)
Its year 2019 - they can support polyamory!!

On the other hand, maybe they won't - it is too normal.

I don't think Raph and Alopex displayed any romantic interest. Since they haven't been paired all the time.

They could pair this Mona Lisa with Raph to see what happens. We'll find out once #101 debuts. It will be interesting to see how the Turtles meet her.

pferreira 11-27-2019 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1825096)
It means he's still an adult but not married to Mary Jane, though the current run seems to be setting them up as a couple again and their chemistry has been great. 616 Peter has never been de-aged, but previous attempts to send him back to high school, in a way, have included him being hired as a teacher.

Like I said the last Spider-Man story I read was a trade paperback from 2004 or 2006 and Peter was married to MJ in that. I believe he was infected and died or something like that? Maybe I got confused because I read they were restarting the issue numbering again back to 1.

For Superman however I do know for a fact they reset the character back in the mid-80s. Not sure if Superman has been reset since then. Again I think the numbering has since gone back to 1.

ChosenOne 11-27-2019 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pferreira (Post 1827142)
Like I said the last Spider-Man story I read was a trade paperback from 2004 or 2006 and Peter was married to MJ in that. I believe he was infected and died or something like that? Maybe I got confused because I read they were restarting the issue numbering again back to 1.

Sounds like "The Other" story arc. It's one thing to renumber, quite another to reboot completely. 616 Spider-Man has never been rebooted.

Cloudrunner 11-27-2019 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1825815)
I don't think Raph and Alopex displayed any romantic interest. Since they haven't been paired all the time.

I mean he did say he loved her, even if he was goaded into it by Angel.


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