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Deadpool 3
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Deadpool will (probably?) be popping up here and there (maybe first in "Thor: Love and Thunder") before Deadpool 3. https://alongtheboards.com/2019/09/2...e-and-thunder/ https://thedigitalwise.com/2019/09/2...etails-inside/ |
The first link goes to an article about birth control. Was that intended?
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Reaffirming R-rating (also that Deadpool may be allowed to interact with the MCU):
http://www.darkhorizons.com/deadpool...3-thor-4-talk/ |
Just a month ago, there was another spate of articles claiming that there almost definitely wasn't going to be a Deadpool 3 anytime soon, and if there was it was absolutely going to be PG-13 so as not to "go against the proven MCU formula" (which is what I've been predicting since the sale/merger/hostile takeover/whatever it is - They will NEVER make an R-Rated MCU movie in this lifetime, there's absolutely zero upside to it).
The most likely truth right now is, they don't have anything set up yet, they're just leaking rumors every few weeks to see how people react. |
I actually do think Deadpool could work fine as a "hard" pg-13. I'd like the guarantee of "R", but I don't think that will make or break the film.
What they really need to focus on is getting back to a somewhat heartfelt, focused story. I love Deadpooo 2, but I think it can be improved upon. |
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And they don't value Deadpool so that they can run him through the MCU formula... they value him because they can utilize the Deadpool formula. Individually Deadpool 1 and 2 did better than ANY OTHER X-Men movie, even more than Days of Future Past... and at a fraction of the budget and hard R ratings. Basically a billion dollars a film, why mess with that? Quote:
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There's really no point in seeing a PG-13 Deadpool movie, IMHO. The draw of Deadpool is super crass humor, gore, and potty-mouthed dialogue at an R-level that makes fun of your run of the mill PG-13 superhero fare by comparison. If you know you're getting none of those things, why go? Quote:
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I think you make a good point about the rating. A lot of the two Deadpool films so far have been special because of the boundaries they're been able to break, in large part due to rating. But also due general irreverence, and fourth wall breaking. Maybe it's that I feel the films can actually be more than that. I think a strong appeal of Deadpool 1 actually was the genuine love story aspect, as well as Deadpools charm. You could build off those elements and still deliver a lot of kick-ass action. Perhaps that's enough for a great Deadpool film. I'm not really sure. |
"It did better than the other X-Men movies" is the logic everyone falls back on when trying to explain why Disney/Marvel "needs" Deadpool, and "needs" to do it exactly as it's been done.
They absolutely don't. Why not? Because they made a billion dollars with a talking raccoon and a bunch of other guys nobody had ever heard of. That's why none of that other stuff matters. They can snap their fingers and manufacture another "billion-dollar franchise" with anyone from Speedball to Squirrel Girl, if they want to, and they don't have to risk pissing off the soccer mommies by making an R-Rated "Super-Hero" film, OR the "hardcore Deadpool fans" who'd inevitably be pissed off by a neutered version of the character. "Deadpool made more money than any other X-Men movie, they're not gonna mess with Deapool". Feh. And the very first MCU X-Men movie is going to make even more money than Deadpool, and it's gonna be PG-13. Deadpool, as-is, is too much of a risk for a notoriously "safe" corporation as Disney. That was the entire point of the PG-13 re-release of Deadpool 2, whether anyone wants to admit it or not: just to see if they could still make a few bucks on a "censored" version, and whether or not it would be worth anyone's time to try and do more stuff like that with the character going forward. I can absolutely see Deadpool popping up as a background character in future MCU X-Movies, but R-Rated Deadpool solo movies are almost certainly over with and done. Disney "corporate" would have nothing to gain and everything to lose by putting out more movies like the first two. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong on this one, by the way, but they've worked very hard to establish a "brand" with their Marvel films, and that brand is based on a consistent and "safe" product. Deadpool doesn't fit that, and having him exist outside of the MCU just so it can be R-Rated makes no sense at all for their business model. We'll see. I personally think they'll just re-cast it when Ryan Reynolds refuses to go along with the grand plan, and ultimately nobody's going to complain too much; so long as there's a lot of the goofy humor of the first two, they won't miss the violence, no matter what they say now. And then Disney can sell Deadpool toys to kids with a clear conscience, which is ultimately why they're in business, and they won't have to so in a disingenuous fashion. That's what the smart money says. Disney making R-Rated Deadpool movies? Crazy talk! Never happen. |
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/thor/...l-news-a171182
Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick are currently doing the rounds to promote Zombieland: Double Tap, and, as you might expect, they've been asked a lot about Deadpool's possible arrival in the MCU. "We definitely we want to play in the sandbox," Reese said. "One of the great things about the MCU is how rich and broad it is. For instance, just think about the world of villains, how great the world of villains are. We're never able to use a lot of those villains because they were on the MCU. Well, now we can. So, right away, we're definitely excited about getting the shot to do that." "I think Ryan is too. I think the MCU people are too, just the idea of throwing Deadpool into the mix is exciting to them. I would not at all be shocked to see a really fun crossover that we're taking advantage of of all the tools at our disposal and all the rich characters at our disposal," Reese concludes, hopefully dropping some hints about what Deadpool will be getting up to in the MCU. |
They don't even have to acknowledge it was in a different universe. Deadpool could just have a line saying how Disney bought him and leave everything the same, just not show any X-men anymore.
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Aaaaactually.... They just announced on TMZ or Access Hollywood (I forget which) a couple of days ago that YES, Deadpool IS going to show up, and YES, his next movie WILL be R. It came straight from the source, after specifically being asked about. I was pretty happy at the news, given all the speculation that has been done on the subject.
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Yeah, I mean it's not like movie studios ever lie or tell people exactly what they wanna hear, or anything. :lol:
"Believe half of what you see and absolutely none of what you hear, because everything, everywhere, is a work." That's Pro Wrasslin' 101. They teach you that before they even teach you how to bump. It's an invaluable life skill. We'll see. My money says we'll see Squirrel Girl and two sequels long before we see an R-Rated Deadpool movie with the Disney brand on it. If I'm wrong I'm wrong! I just don't see it, though. |
Reynolds confirms it's actively being worked on at Marvel Studios:
https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/12...arvel-studios/ |
Wonderful to hear. Deadpool is somehow comforting to me.
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Deadpool 1 bored me, and I was so irritated with the cliches in Deadpool 2 that I turned it off 20 minutes into the film.
But I'm in the minority on this, so hey, most of y'all should be happy! I wonder how adversely Disney will affect/oversee the threequel's production? |
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https://deadline.com/2020/11/deadpoo...el-1234617182/
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Of course, the more interesting bits to everyone else are just the fact that this is being made under the Disney banner and the question of general tone and rating. |
It won't be *literally* under the Disney banner. If not just under the Fox banner (which they can do), then I bet they'll make some other one for movies like it and maybe the new Blade. Like "Marvel Dark" or something.
A little bit sad that they're just trying to crack the script/story now... so many years into things. They've had all this time to be looking at pitches and whatnot, even if the production would be far off. |
People are going to be so shocked and disappointed when it comes out and is nothing like what they want/expect, despite it being an open secret for years that "R-Rated Deadpool 3" was never going to happen. Liefeld himself said that part of the hold-up was because Disney was trying to figure out how exactly to cut the balls off and do it PG-13 without inciting a riot.
I promise you, it's only even gaining traction right this minute because the first two movies were cheap, and Disney can't afford to make another $300 million blockbuster anytime soon. 6 months ago it hadn't even been on their radar in forever. People should definitely keep their enthusiasm in check for this. Anybody who really thinks it's going to be like the original is kidding themselves and setting themselves up for a huge disappointment. I mean, anyone who WANTS a PG-13 Deadpool might be fine with it, but... WHY would anyone want that? Kinda defeats the entire purpose. |
PG-13 Deadpool won't happen. They've told us it'll be R more times than Trump has denounced white supremacy... yet people still insist.
Plus Reynolds isn't like a starving artist anymore. If it ever becomes a PG-13 hackjob I suspect he'll just walk away. They need him way more than he needs them. |
From the Deadline Article
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We'll see, but don't play this game for money, squire. "They" haven't said a word in years, period. And every single word spoken from people "in the biz" about WHY is, "They're absolutely not going to do an R-Rated comic book movie but they don't want to say that out loud and piss off people like Andrew." :trazz: Why they'd reverse course all of a sudden NOW would be a mystery ("desperation" would be one reason, but I doubt that they're there just yet). They've been doing nothing BUT trying to figure out how not to do it for a couple of years now.
When they still had blockbusters in the pipeline, "Deadpool 3" was simply not going to happen, period. They were going to very quietly wait until everyone forgot about it. They have NO impetus to start making R-rated comic book films when their entire business model is based on Saturday morning kiddie CBM stuff. One phone call from an angry Karen upsets the entire business model. It ain't happening. Now, they can't make a blockbuster, so they dig in the drawer for something "cheap" to release instead. Thus, the revived interest in "Deadpool 3", which they haven't talked about at all in ages. But this isn't the same Disney from 30 years ago that would let "risque" projects out under other banners. This is the 2020, "No Risk/High Reward" Disney that doesn't want to "offend" anyone. Ryan Reynolds might not be a "starving artist" anymore, BUT he also doesn't exactly do a whole lot outside of Deadpool, either. There's every chance that he just takes the check. OR, they let him go and say "So what?" I mean, it's Disney. They'll be just fine with OR without "Deadpool 3". People operate under this silly idea that they NEED to make that movie, and that they HAVE to do it "the way fans want", but neither of those things are true in the slightest. YOU need Deadpool 3. Disney absolutely does not. "But the first made a billion dollars! They'd be STUPID not to do it!" Seriously? They made a billion dollars with a talking racoon and a bunch of no-name Z-listers. They could make "Howard the Duck" tomorrow and make a billion dollars. They crap a billion dollars. If they think even one soccer mommy might accidentally take their kid to Deadpool 3 because they thought it was an Avengers spin-off and that they'd get an angry phone call afterwards, they're not gonna make the movie that way. It's that simple. The fact that they still want to have him be in "neutered" movies palling around with Spider-Man only lends more credence to the idea that they're not gonna go "hardcore" with the solo flicks. Disney doesn't do "market confusion" or "tiered entry" anymore. They're all-kids, all the time. I mean, we'll see, obviously. But again, ALL I've heard for years is, "They're either not making it, OR they will but it's gonna be neutered." The PG-13 release of Deadpool 2 was a test run to see what they could get away with. Disney DOES NOT WANT to make R-Rated Deadpool movies. It's silly to think they want or have to. They don't want to, and they don't have to. We'll see, but I'll be shocked. To try for three years to bury the entire project because they didn't wanna make it R-rated, only to abruptly reverse course and do exactly that just because they need a quick influx of cash, well... that's generally not how this company operates. So I'll be incredibly surprised to say the least. There's much less risky ways they can make a fast billion. |
"Deadpool 3," particularly the first one "within" the MCU, is an event. Each of the first two made a cool billion, and that was in its own isolated corner of the lame Fox-Men verse. Something like "Shang-Chi" is... more like, "Hm, let's see what happens. Let's try this experiment."
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Who is going to step up and eat crow here first?
https://collider.com/deadpool-3-mcu-...ige-interview/ Quote:
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I see zero new information. Just more "It's totally gonna happen... some day... and it'll totally be Rated-R, you guys!"
That's what they said last year... and the year before that... and the year before that... and... Although odds are admittedly better now since the whole game has changed and they'll still be dealing with things post-COVID. They'll be looking to do more lower-budget fare that they hope can still pack a crowd. If not for that, though, it was never gonna happen. Otherwise, yeah, No New News. Just more "We promise!" I don't listen to that stuff. "Green Lantern Corps" is still comin' out, too. Totally! :trazz: |
It is funny how Reynolds is seen as a Deadpool expert.
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Comparing this to Green Lantern Corp is worth a good laugh, but can't actually be taken seriously, because the MCU is nowhere near as inconsistent as WB, let alone WB several years ago. |
Prior to the Disney purchase, the plan for Deadpool 3 was to finally bring in Wolverine and make it a road trip caper
https://bleedingcool.com/movies/dead...ot-pre-disney/ |
Assuming he was actually able to convince Hugh Jackman or intended on replacing him. Sounds like a tall order. He did hint at a roadtrip movie during the press for Deadpool 2. He made it sound like a joke, but I'm not surprised to hear it was actually in the cards.
I think the Disney Deadpool film will be better, quite honestly. I like the Deadpool films, but I think there is room for improvement. Normally, I don't want everything homogenized under Disney/Marvel, but I actually think it will be good for the script to have less dirty humor to lean on. It's funny but was becoming a krutch in the second film, and the script was pretty weak. |
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Let’s see if Leo is still denying it lol.
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Disney is literally doing R rated Aliens and Predator movies now. There should be no worries at all about Deadpool. If anything, the cameos we might want to see in Deadpool 3 might be vetted a little more heavily. But I'm sure we'll get some good ones.
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I just find it hard to believe Disney won't have their paws all over the movie somehow, in some way. After some of the dreck we've gotten lately from the MCU, particularly stuff like Falcon and the Winter Soldier, I worry about the quality of the movie as well. I want to believe Reynolds would put his foot down, and not allow them to mishandle the property, but who knows.
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I'm more interested in the obvious jokes that Deadpool is now part of the MCU instead of the Fox X-men universe. I can't wait to see how they address this.
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It will be a "fish out of water" movie. Deadpool being the fish and the MCU being the air.
https://www.darkhorizons.com/deadpoo...acing-the-mcu/ |
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Why retcon that?
Deadpool is from another world and that's whole his gimmick for now. Its not like like X-Men (Fox ones) are a must for his movie. |
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