Alan Ritchson hated working on the two TMNT Movies
 

Alan Ritchson who played Raph in TMNT 2014 and TMNT: Out Of The Shadows hated working on it.



The experience was so bad. He was trying to get out of the 2nd one. But was contractually obligated to do 3 movies. Anyways the 3rd one didn't happen since they are gonna reboot it anyways. and I'm pretty sure it won't have the same actors.

Okay, first, someone lend me a hammer because I'm using it on that/those microphone(s). God damn I hate that hallow echoy tone. Gives me an ear and headache just trying to listen to it.


That said.... That seriously sucks how he and the others were treated. If he wants to be seen, I'm not sure why he'd even try for (or agree on) that kind of film to begin with if it wasn't something he was interested in at first anyhow. But sounds like there were a whole lot of promises that were all talk and they got screwed out of it.

Cripe, even if they were lesser knowns, playing the Turtles makes them the rightful stars of it, so why not treat them with the respect deserved for all that hard work they were putting in just like everyone else. Were none of them guild/union members, thus easy to screw over? While union set people took precedence?



Makes me a little sad though to know that if a prospective 3rd movie did turn out to be just a soft reboot with the same Turtles, it doesn't sound like he'd be willing to return. (Unless he'd have to. But now I'd feel bad for him/them. :ohwell:) The chemistry of those four and their performance were the best part of the whole thing. In terms of a big, gruff kind of Raph, he did a good one.

I'm sure they will all be recast. They don't want to go through the same ordeal.

Not surprising. Though what's he talking about "this isn't what my audience likes"... did people even know him before this? I recognized him a couple seasons ago in a Black Mirror episode, but that's it.

Interesting he talks about the backend of the box office promised to him with the second one. He acts like they stiffed him, but any kind of back end deal means that there actually needs to BE a back end. OotS landed in the red, so no back end for anybody because there isn't any profit. If it had done well he would have gotten what was promised.

A prospective third movie wouldn't be a prospective third movie... it'd be a prospective first movie in a new thing.

You know what I mean -- if they actually still used those particular Turtles; be it a consecutive 3rd or a stand alone 3rd unconnected from the first two. Whole new voices would just be off putting. So I guess new models are for the best if the actors are out. (Even if I wouldn't have minded a little more of this Leo.)

I'm not surprised. Though I hope this video gets seen by any actor who might even think about being involved in a movie with those same people behind the previous reboot. I just don't have any faith in Platinum Dunes.

It sounded like he was talked into doing it. But his heart wasn't in the right place as he was forced to endure all the behind the scenes drama when they were filming.

It sounds like he had a job.

So, not only did they destroy the fandom, they also destroyed the actors.

THANKS MICHAEL BAY!!!

Honestly, I hate these movies so much that I am kind of gleeful to hear bad things about the production.

Same here.

I don’t mind him complaining if he felt mistreated. No matter what job you have you should be treated fairly but I don’t understand how he could possibly think he’d be more than “just a guy in a mask”.

I mean the entire point of the motion capture was to cgi on turtle faces. What exactly could be misunderstood here?

From the studio’s standpoint how can you pitch it the way he says it was? Even if they just lied it makes no sense because everyone knew it was cgi and the human stars were Megan Fox and Will Arnett.

He literally said how, in the video. Ya know, that he'd be able to go be the face of his character, doing press & the like, actually being known for his role.

Smallville. I guess now he'd be more known for Titans but that was definitely even after TMNT.

Oh I misunderstood that part I guess. I thought he was thinking his face would appear in the movie.

Of course the dumpster fire movies was a dumpster fire production. It sucks that the Turtle actors was treated like this. They where toted as new big stars and didn't even get a ride from the studios? pathetic by Bay & Co.

The promises was red flags though, getting the back end of the BO?
That means "zero cash for you dancing monkey, now keep dancing" Even if BayTurtlers did Box Office records of all time, you'll rarely see any BO money as a actor or director if that's what you're agreed to get paid in unless you have a really good contract that have the right wording like Sandra Bullock had in Gravity.

Being the same company, how can the reboot be any better though?
Maybe don't hire actors for being the Turtles but go stunt actors and voice actors combined to make the Turtles route instead.

I know I should have empathy, but its it's hard because he was talking up the film like it was the greatest thing ever in the press - that's his job. I get it. But I'm the guy you're essentially lying to, so idk, hard for me to feel bad.

Sure sounds like a crap situation to be in for those guys though. Let's just hope this is the "Batman and Robin" (1997) to our Batman Begins.

I'd almost forgotten that. Didn't he and Megan Fox basically smacked talk against people who were criticizing the first film around the time they were promoting it? Hard to feel empathy.

I feel more like it's TMNT's version of F4NTASTIC 4... and our only hope is somebody buying the rights away from Viacom/Nick.

I just think it's interesting that this guy is willing to speak his mind about the whole debacle. Honestly, good for him. You don't see that in Hollywood very often, and you know that Hollywood execs never fess up to their BS. So it's almost always on the actors or writers.

Although...it would have been cool for them to do like the original film did and let them all have a bit part cameo too.

No, pretty sure that was Donnie's actor -- apologies to him as I can't recall his name at the moment -- who unfortunately decided to go in on that a bit along with Fox and Bay. Wasn't too fond of him after that. But at least he sort of walked it back a little when they were all finally able to voice their own criticisms later on how it turned out.

I don't recall the other three getting into that.


Hearing that they were treated this crappy though makes me feel a little sadder for Leo's actor for getting his voice replaced in the first. (Esp after the 2nd proved that he's a great fit.) Cripe, at least Alan got to keep his voice in it. Poor Pete basically became a voiceless full-body puppeteer.

Once we saw those noses and nostrils for the first time we knew these movies were going to be god awful.

Well obviously everyone knows that noses have the power to stifle the writing quality.

Now I'm wondering how the other 3 felt about working on the 2 movies

Actually, when the designs leaked, I was pretty excited. I had skepticism heading in, because of the obvious Transformers film comparisons, but I really thought they looked great. I don't think I understood just how big they would be, and of course the movie's poor quality now colors my perception of those designs.

To me, the designs were a mix of Steve Baron's sequel concepts and "Soul's Winter".

They'll probably keep their mouths shut because they want to keep on getting work.

That's what I'd think. This seems like a good way to burn bridges, but I really don't know much about the acting business.

I could see another Sonic Movie situation. If the new designs they do for the reboot isn't well received. The problem is the people working on this movie don't even listen to the fans. But I bet you Paramount will have a final say on this. Should something like this happen again.

Around the time that the movies were released, Noel Fisher (Michelangelo) really seemed like he enjoyed doing them from the interviews he did, but I do wonder if this was how he really felt or what production would want him to say.

Noel Fisher is lucky to have any career at all.

Alan Ritchson has apparently carved out a little bit of a niche in terms of regular parts and a general "look." He's like a younger, prickish brother of David Beckham or something. He has a little bit of ability to say "f*** you" now. The other Turtle actors don't.

They shouldn't hire actors to do the motion capture for the Turtles. Instead get stunt performers to do the majority of it. Because we need to see the Turtles actually do martial arts. Just rely on the voice acting for that stuff. Just like how they did with the 1990 movie. It seems like they treated these actors like crap. Because nobody would know who they are behind all the motion capture. It sucks that Will Arnett and Megan Fox were getting special treatment then them because of there celebrity status.

I still get s kick out of Raphael's little brawl on the rooftop against The Foot. Considering what little resources they had, it looks pretty cool seeing that Raph puppet move like that.

Ritchson says that they were not invited to the premiere of the first movie back in 2014, but that doesn't seem to add up because they were in fact there.

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/N...lMy-371Lhl.jpg

Ritchson did not attend the premiere of the second one though, which does explain why he didn't look forward to doing the sequel.

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/T...8sbhr6Oehl.jpg

A fan here at Technodrome Forum asked Jeremy Howard some questions on Cameo and it seemed like he enjoyed the experience too.

https://www.cameo.com/v/141nZiGFt

Here are more videos of Fisher, Ploszek and Howard at the premieres. They seem more positive, but it's still a possibility that it was what Paramount would want them to say.

Pete Ploszek:





Jeremy Howard:



Noel Fisher:

Perhaps Alan Ritchson was talked into doing it. Even if he wasn't feeling it. But if the other actors enjoyed the experience. Then this is solely on him. I guess he was expecting more. The other guys were lucky to even be a part of it. But for Alan Ritchson. He wanted something more. You can see why with the other roles that take full use of his talents.

How so? Though I was not impressed with either of these movies and the characterisation of the Turtles I did chuckle a few times at Mikey, regardless.

Fisher and Jeremy Howard are some unfortunate-looking individuals.

What is the point of saying stuff like this???

I'm an observational person and under no particular obligation to be nice, is why.

Seriously?

Now that is a blanket statement I can absolutely get behind....