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Leofan26 11-16-2019 02:06 PM

Is this series cancelled than?
 
What with a new Netflix series officially confirmed and that its not connected to this series. Does that mean the end of this series?

neatoman 11-16-2019 02:15 PM

It was moved to Nicktoons, which is basically how Nickelodeon announces cancellation. Then again, there's at least 25 more full episodes left, so...

CyberCubed 11-16-2019 02:33 PM

It was renewed for a second season awhile go, so there's at minimum going to be 26 more episodes left.

Overall it gives the show a healthy run of 52 episodes, which isn't too bad.

TommyT 11-16-2019 02:34 PM

The live action series has NOT been greenlit.

NO, Nic hasn't agreed to a new show yet.

Damo 11-16-2019 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyT (Post 1825752)
The live action series has NOT been greenlit.

NO, Nic hasn't agreed to a new show yet.

They're strongly considering a live action show while moving the remaining episodes of RotTMNT to Nicktoons. At night.

They greenlit the second season (and Netflix movie) before getting a good picture of how well RotTMNT would perform, and now they're not liking how it did. ~50 eps and a Netflix special isn't shabby at all, but yeah, it sure looks like it got the kiss of death.

CyberCubed 11-16-2019 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Damo (Post 1825758)
They're strongly considering a live action show while moving the remaining episodes of RotTMNT to Nicktoons. At night.

They greenlit the second season (and Netflix movie) before getting a good picture of how well RotTMNT would perform, and now they're not liking how it did. ~50 eps and a Netflix special isn't shabby at all, but yeah, it sure looks like it got the kiss of death.

There is no live action series in the works, it's all speculation and rumors.

Autbot_Benz 11-16-2019 04:09 PM

God I hope so I want another 2012 like show dark and gritty with a little bit of comedy. Not full fledged Teen Titans go humor and making the turtles dumb goofballs.

PApagreg 11-16-2019 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1825777)
God I hope so I want another 2012 like show dark and gritty with a little bit of comedy. Not full fledged Teen Titans go humor and making the turtles dumb goofballs.

Yeah dark and gritty like the episode where bigfoot had a crush on Donatello and the 2k12 turtles never acted like dumb goofballs(especially Mikey)

CyberCubed 11-16-2019 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PApagreg (Post 1825781)
Yeah dark and gritty like the episode where bigfoot had a crush on Donatello and the 2k12 turtles never acted like dumb goofballs(especially Mikey)

There's no point in signaling out a filler ep like the Bigfoot ep and saying that accurately represents the series.

PApagreg 11-16-2019 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1825783)
There's no point in signaling out a filler ep like the Bigfoot ep and saying that accurately represents the series.

Why not its still an episode and there are tons more episodes like that.

CyberCubed 11-16-2019 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PApagreg (Post 1825785)
Why not its still an episode and there are tons more episodes like that.

Fillers are known to be more silly/comedic. Do you do that with the anime you watch? You signal out fillers and tell people they accurately represent the series?

TommyT 11-16-2019 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1825783)
There's no point in signaling out a filler ep like the Bigfoot ep and saying that accurately represents the series.

That papgreg is getting obnoxious. It's like he hates TMNT.

Why is everyone mis-quoting the news, and acting like the live action thing is a sure bet? It's really not. I wish i could say how I know, because, I know, but suffice it to say, there is zero interest in going dark and gritty with TMNT, now or anytime soon. They aren't thinking in those terms at all.

PApagreg 11-16-2019 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1825787)
Fillers are known to be more silly/comedic. Do you do that with the anime you watch? You signal out fillers and tell people they accurately represent the series?


Filler means its not in the source material so when people say it doesn't represent the series it's unless the creator says its canon.

Western adaptions takes a few liberties to the point its more or less its own thing so unless the creators say it non-canon its not considered filler.

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Originally Posted by TommyT (Post 1825788)
That papgreg is getting obnoxious. It's like he hates TMNT..

Didn't Jester tell you to stop with "elitist garbage"

TommyT 11-16-2019 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PApagreg (Post 1825789)
Filler means its not in the source material so when people say it doesn't represent the series it's unless the creator says its canon.

Western adaptions takes a few liberties to the point its more or less its own thing so unless the creators say it non-canon its not considered filler.


Didn't Jester tell you to stop with "elitist garbage"

Not yet. And I'm not being an elitist. You are trolling, and it should stop.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 11-17-2019 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1825777)
God I hope so I want another 2012 like show dark and gritty with a little bit of comedy. Not full fledged Teen Titans go humor and making the turtles dumb goofballs.

As we all know, it feels like all darker takes on TMNT (early Fred Wolf, Fred Wolf Red Sky, late Archie, original 4 Kids, early Nickelodeon ideas, later Nickelodeon seasons) are doomed to fail. No matter if it is because of parents complaining over too much violence, or toy sales declining or whatever.

Ninjinister 11-17-2019 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Leofan26 (Post 1825748)
What with a new Netflix series officially confirmed and that its not connected to this series. Does that mean the end of this series?

I don't think you know what "confirmed" means.

Anarchistguy 11-17-2019 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan (Post 1825855)
As we all know, it feels like all darker takes on TMNT (early Fred Wolf, Fred Wolf Red Sky, late Archie, original 4 Kids, early Nickelodeon ideas, later Nickelodeon seasons) are doomed to fail. No matter if it is because of parents complaining over too much violence, or toy sales declining or whatever.

This is why we can't have nice things anymore. We might as well go back to the "dead era" of TMNT of 1997-2002

IndigoErth 11-17-2019 12:38 PM

How to do a darker one without being doomed via complaint -- aim it at older audiences, of course. If anyone is dumb enough to let their 6-year-old watch a show intended for older teens and adults, that is on them. (And those modern complaining parents are within the generations of most of us here, so what the heck people. :tconfuse:)

But if they can go and throw 'Rise' into a time slot at 10:30 at night for whatever the heck reason, then, um, they could do that with a darker or otherwise more serious series someday that isn't for little kids...? Or, I dunno, take advantage of that Viacom/CBS merger and air it on CBS instead of Nick?

I just don't get how there are all these potential options on the table that they just ignore. The makers of collectables know and gladly acknowledge that there is an older market that is always glad to see new TMNT merchandise happening. DC knows it and made that TMNT/Batman crossover and quickly got figures out there for sale. Nick/Viacom people...? Yeah, they seem for the most part to be doing their best to pretend NOT to know it.

Okay, granted Nick surely had to give DC the okay to do what they wanted with that crossover, it's a start, but just proof of what's possible if they can be bothered to let it be a bit separate from Nick.


I'm just saying...another more serious 2D cartoon series on weekends or prime time hours aired on CBS would be incredible to see. (Or, you know, Netflix, but that isn't as fun to discuss as weekly eps are.)

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 11-17-2019 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1825883)
(Or, you know, Netflix, but that isn't as fun to discuss as weekly eps are.)

Weekly? The 2012–2017 Nickelodeon series could take months, who felt like years, even during seasons. :)

IndigoErth 11-17-2019 01:12 PM

Yes, well... weekly when it would actually come back for a few weeks? *shrug*

Getting back to a weekly show (one that at least keeps its time slot and shows a repeat when it isn't new) would be a nice concept to get back to. One can dream, right?

Poweranimals 11-17-2019 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Leofan26 (Post 1825748)
What with a new Netflix series officially confirmed and that its not connected to this series.

Wait. What?

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 11-17-2019 04:46 PM

Netflix, or any other online streaming service, is probably what we may expect in the future.

Leofan26 11-17-2019 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Poweranimals (Post 1825898)
Wait. What?

What? It popped up on my google page that we'd be getting a live action turtles reboot next, not saying I'd be happy about that. I'd rather the next turtles series return to a 2003 type series, in my opinion that was the darkest turtle series we had and gave us character development for all the turtles too, well some would argue about Mikey I guess meh.

sdp 11-28-2019 12:15 PM

If this gets cancelled we'll be getting a comedic oriented reboot.

MikeandRaph87 11-28-2019 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1827228)
If this gets cancelled we'll be getting a comedic oriented reboot.

Isn't this what Rise is?

IndigoErth 11-28-2019 12:35 PM

I hope they don't. The so-called comedy of cartoons like this today already seems too forced, and if they try to do slapstick like the '87 series it's probably inevitable that it's going to seem too forced, too... The comedy needs to feel natural and organic, without being based on how annoying a character can try to be.

PApagreg 11-28-2019 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1827234)
I hope they don't. The so-called comedy of cartoons like this today already seems too forced, and if they try to do slapstick like the '87 series it's probably inevitable that it's going to seem too forced, too...

How many comedy cartoons do you even watch.

IndigoErth 11-28-2019 12:39 PM

Do you get paid to counter or debate other people's every thought/opinion?

PApagreg 11-28-2019 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1827237)
Do you get paid to counter or debate other people's every thought/opinion?

How is me asking a question considered counter or debate.

TommyT 11-28-2019 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1827234)
I hope they don't. The so-called comedy of cartoons like this today already seems too forced, and if they try to do slapstick like the '87 series it's probably inevitable that it's going to seem too forced, too... The comedy needs to feel natural and organic, without being based on how annoying a character can try to be.

He’s Papatroll. He’s trying to fight with you.

As I said in the other thread, if you’re hoping for a specific change, voicing that here is a good idea. We should bd focused on what we want, not what we don’t.

PApagreg 11-28-2019 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyT (Post 1827251)
He’s Papatroll. He’s trying to fight with you.

For a guy who has been here for less than 6 months you sure are comfortable with giving out labels to people.

Ashwolf 11-28-2019 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1825887)
Getting back to a weekly show (one that at least keeps its time slot and shows a repeat when it isn't new) would be a nice concept to get back to. One can dream, right?

That would be really, really nice but sadly I don't see it happening anytime soon. The sponge is nick's baby and though I'm giving rise a shot and watching the episodes, I see it as nick's attempt at slapping the sponge all over tmnt in a bit of a lame way. Granted, there r a few decent moments in it but still, blah overall. :ohwell:

Best we can hope for right now is a Batman/tmnt movie sequel.

TommyT 11-28-2019 11:04 PM

I'm ignoring Papatrolls nonsense in favor of urging the real fans here, to come together, so we can finally get the responsible, sober and necessary TMNT, based on source, not rejected jokes from blown Ip's.

The man-babies who want to watch cartoons AIMED at kids have had a stranglehold on Turtles for long enough. Let's set things right.

PApagreg 11-28-2019 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyT (Post 1827296)
I'm ignoring Papatrolls nonsense in favor of urging the real fans here, to come together, so we can finally get the responsible, sober and necessary TMNT, based on source, not rejected jokes from blown Ip's.

The man-babies who want to watch cartoons AIMED at kids have had a stranglehold on Turtles for long enough. Let's set things right.

Jester he's doing the close minded man child gate keeping again

sdp 11-29-2019 04:59 PM

When will we know this is cancelled for real? Moved to Nicktoons, toyline being something different, it seems pretty much confirmed and they rarely announce cancellations like these ones, they just don't renew them or mention the new show instead. I'd love to have a final season, at the very least so writers could go even crazier with episodes knowing they're already cancelled.

We'll we get a show based on the OT or even a sequel to it since we're getting a toyline based on the classic toyline? Or could it be a show based on the actual classic toyline and not the OT? That would be a dream of mine. Are we just going to have a toyline without a show? We'll we have to wait until toyfair to get a better idea?

IndigoErth 11-29-2019 05:57 PM

May depend on how soon Playmates even wants to put out the old toys. If next year, then I doubt it's associated with a show. For now I'm assuming they may just want to do another rerelease of some oldie remakes like they did for a short period via Toys R Us a while ago. If that seemed to sell well then I'm not surprised they might want to do it again, if that's what they're doing.

Though with the news on the end of the 'Rise' toys and possible rerelease of the old ones, I'm wondering now if that "Retro" Turtles July 2020 Little Golden Book I recently saw listed on Amazon is associated with refocusing in that direction in general. ("Nickelodeon's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles star in an all-new Little Golden Book that features the classic art style from the 1980s.") But those books are often inspired by show episodes, so if it's a whole new story... who knows?

edit: Although if Playmates puts out any figures that were canceled back in the day, now that would be cool.

TommyT 11-29-2019 06:11 PM

CBS will have a say in what happens next, for better or worse. Netflix too. Don’t expect anything to be discussed until Spring 2020, maybe even SDCC. They might be waiting for moves from the feature film folks, to take the temperature of fans on that direction, but as I’ve been saying, they are looking actively for what to do next.

miru 11-30-2019 02:04 PM

It's sad this show met the same fate as its predecessor; the Next Mutation. Though, despite Jessica Jacklyn and the good animation, it might be what it deserved. It already seems to have vanished from toy shelves. Let's hope it gets to tell the story it wanted to...

Autbot_Benz 11-30-2019 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by miru (Post 1827486)
It's sad this show met the same fate as its predecessor; the Next Mutation.

no not really good riddance to **** turtle shows

Ninja Tiptup 12-02-2019 05:30 AM

I was watching the Toys That Made Us episode on TMNT and there were people getting interviewed saying they think Rise will be the biggest turtles yet. Well those statements didn't age well.

Its unfortunate that Rise hasn't found more success. They probably should have let TMNT rest for a few years before rebooting it again. Now maybe they'll hold off on starting something immediately after Rise ends. It's playing out disturbingly similar to The Next Mutation. Popular series ends after a few years in decline, gets immediately rebooted with drastic changes and doesn't find broad appeal. Rise is CONSIDERABLY better than TNM but that's a lesson they could have learned not only from that but also from Fast Forward coming off (and continuing) the 2003 series. Perhaps the next series will be more like a second coming of the 2003 series. More than likely they'll try to bring it in line with the next film series, if the next film series is successful.

52 half hours isn't a terrible run by any means but I'd hate to see Rise end before it has even been on the air for 2 years.


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