Apparently Nick Toons Holland pulled the plug.
 

Last weekend saw the airing of the "Cloak and Swaggart" and "Jupiter Jim ahoy" episodes.

This time around, no mention of the "Rise" series on the website, no promo clips on the channel itself.

In addition, when walking into toy shops, I saw the "Rise" toys in the bargain bins already.

It was more sudden than I thought.

We've been pretty sure this show wouldn't continue for quite a while now, a foreign market pulling the plug isn't that weird.

Just give me that sweet Rise is Cancelled notice so I can celebrate

It wouldn't be a bad move to move it to netflix, the 2012 show is there in some markets, the movie is really something, it should be out this year but is it only Rise? is it a crossover movie? If it's only rise it seems doomed to fail even on Netflix which for Netflix they might not want to carry any more tmnt stuff.

Does Rise have a niche online following at least? I also wonder if the writers knew this movie could be the last and that they weren't renewed for a S3, so at least it can work as some sort of series finale for this show.

It's been cancelled. You can celebrate.

This really doesn't warrant its own thread.

Tumblr loves it, but that's not enough, obviously. Not quite the kids toy demo.

Do kids even play with toys anymore though? Seems to me kids are wanting electronic gadgets, not toys.

I was trying to figure out who Nick "Toons" Holland is. :twink::twink::twink:

I thought he meant Tom Holland who is Spiderman and I got confused.

It also has a sizable following on Twitter(with the creator of Hazbin Hotel singing its praise https://twitter.com/VivziePop/status...62062858289154) in fact the ladder scene is what made me give this show another chance and I'm glad I did. Also fun fact its has the 8th highest place on the TMNT subreddit with a flair in animation.

On-Topic I kinda knew this series wouldn't last even though I still hope this gets another season, even at the start when this show aired I kinda had a feeling this would be sort of a buffer between the Nick show and the next big thing where the creators could experiment more and for me the experiment worked and I'm glad we got a iteration that does its own thing instead of being a Frankenstein monster of everything that came before it. Heck I should be happy it got 52 episodes and a possible movie, most action shows I like don't get as many episodes(especially Motorcity which I consider RotTMNT to be a spiritual successor) and the fact we still have the reminder of season 2 still gets me hyped.

It ain't super popular with the TMNT fans now but give it a couple of years and I see it in the vein of Batman Brave and the Bold or The Looney Tunes Show an iteration that's hated at first but later people will enjoy it because it is more of a different take.

Another thing it did was removed the awful taste the later seasons of 2k12 left in my mouth so that's a plus.

So it's officially cancelled than? I hope the series has Leo become the leader at some point in season two, I'd hate to leave things as is. This may not have been my favorite version of Leo but the heck with leaving Raph as leader for a series LOL.

Something about Raph being in charge seems to rub you the wrong way based on your posts.

You know with Nick's recent Netflix deal, moving the show there really would be the best option, if Nick is interested in continuing the show.

To be honest, I'm a huge Raphael fan, he's my most favorite fictional character of all time, and him being the leader of the TMNT rubs me the wrong way as well.

How so for you?

52 episodes is still a pretty decent run. Nick gave it a chance to stretch its legs so to speak.

Yay, someone gets me. Same for me with Leo, most favorite ever. Sure, there's others (non-TMNT) I've liked to some degree over time, but no one comes close to this guy in all of my 40 years. :tcool:

While I have begrudgingly [not really quite] accepted Raph stealing Leo's job this go around (as throwing his normal personality and who he just normally is under the bus is a lot worse issue for me), it's stupid that they really haven't even made it matter. The thing they've done most with Raph as leader is just...repeatedly tell us that he is.




Side note... while this one seems to be slowly fading, even just today while stocking the greeting cards at one of the stores I do I got more in of a 2012 version TMNT kid b-day card. Go figure. Maybe they still have a lot, or maybe it sells good enough to continue keeping the license for it? Has a 2018 copyright, while that series was already over by then and 'Rise' starting.

The way I saw it was that in "Rise" we basically had the Raphael from the 2012 series' episode "New Girl in town" if he had succeeded in taking over the leadership role.

Because...

Mikey: Wow, we're totally losing!
Raph: Really, I hadn't noticed.
Mikey: Then get your head back into the game, you're supposed to be the LEADER!

Almost every scene during the fight against Snakeweed had the others reminding Raph that he leads the team.

Netherlands
 

Holland is a region in the Netherlands, and somehow the name Holland has ended up as another name for the entire country.

I don't know if this makes sense or not, but Raphael's whole personality screams as a devil's advocate, but because of that impatient, angry side of him, he doesn't quite have what it takes to be a leader everyone can look up to. At the same time, Leo does have that perfect disposition and respect from his brothers to be the ideal leader, but because he is so in sync with his personal harmony, I can never see someone like him being a devil's advocate.



It's a combination of situations that kept the love alive. Main thing, while everyone in my life liked either Superman or Batman, this was a character that came out during my childhood, and stuck around for all of these years so it made keeping him a favorite easy. If there was a character back then that could challenge Raphael's top spot, it would have to be Thirty Thirty from the short running show BraveStarr.

You have more patience than me. I personally couldn't get into the show because I just didn't care for the animation look. Even then, I understand how frustrating it is to see characters not progress. These show runners need to understand that the TMNT franchise fairs better when it's treated more like Harry Potter than something like South Park.




I won't be surprised that Nick or whoever is in charge at the time, was using every means possible to squash the 2012 show so as to promote their new thing. I also noticed that happening with youtube in the past, when looking for anything TMNT, anything tied with whatever was new would be front and center, while trying to find anything to the 2003 or 80's renditions were not so easily found, even if the view count was very high.

Funny enough, my favorite TMNT MV was about 2003 Leonardo, to the song "Numb" from Linkin Park. I think it was called The Prodigal Son. Shame, it was on youtube for 8 years until finally copyright censors took it off. :cry:

Yes, I totally agree. In every other version of TMNT Leo was the leader. It was a big blow to see that in "Rise" they made Raph the leader.

New episodes are coming soon you need to wait. They dont need to show the same episodes each day or each weekend they are waiting for the next episodes and they will show them then.

This doesn't appeal to you?? :sick:

https://i.imgur.com/pgAnJGB.gif

:lol: I mean, really... god damn....

There are spots where the animation looks decent enough, I guess, but there is so much of it that is sooo lacking. Assuming you jumped ship way before that ep the gif is from... see, the sad thing here is that while that may be a gif and one might fairly think it is the result of fewer frames like many gifs, that part of that ep literally looks exactly like that. There are so few unique frames in that piece, consisting on many repeats, I had a hard time hitting the print screen button in the right timing in the video to even get them. It's just such a wonderfully, fabulously disgusting example of why the TMNT should maybe not be shoehorned into being like all the other current cartoon trends. I know there are those that like it, and to each their own... but it's just not a good look for our boys. (I imagine any other Leo and Raph would possibly be mortified to even see this...)

Hey, aesthetics can make all the difference in the world. I love the live action versions of the TMNT with the Jim Henson puppets, but then the third installment and the Next Mutation, as well as loving 2k3 but not like Fast Forward.

I see. How do you feel about FW Raphael since his personality was radically changed in that show? Some compare Rise Leo to that version of Raph (debatable).

I will never understand how that gif gives you so much trouble its just a goofy and funny gag that in context to the story actually make sense. As for repeating frames again its just a 5 second gif there isn't that much repeating going around compared to other cartoons from the 80s/90 also its not even the first show to have the turtles making funny faces the 2k12 turtles were guilty of this too. I don't know maybe its because I grew up with shows like Courage the Cowardly dog, Catdog and Looney Tunes I'm more use to it because for me this is just a light gag that I can't see anyone being troubled by.

Yeah, context. The Turtles have no more business being Catdog than Superman has being Spongebob, even if Spongebob is itself usually enjoyable.

Eh TMNT has been pretty much else so Catdog isn't far too off.

FW Raphael was the sarcastic azzhole of the bunch, and I loved him for it. And with that said, he still wouldn't exactly make the best leader. Even then, is he really all that different from later incarnations? Heck, even in the 80's toon when interrogating Baxter, it was still Raphael that got him to talk by threatening to use his sai on him.


And I never did watch Rise to get a feel of the characters.

Glad to see this show is dead so quickly. Worst version of the turtles, right up there with those stupid Platinum Dunes movies and NM. This franchise feels completley lost other than IDW which is a shame with comic book properties being bigger than ever in film/shows.

Yeah, the real MVPs of the franchise the last couple of years have been the comic book crossovers with the Power Rangers and Batman (which translated well to direct-to-video) as well as the IDW title in general. It even got people excited for a female Turtle again. If you focus more on that it's been a worthwhile distraction, though you still wish success of it's kind would translate to television

Tumblr, Twitter and reddit are not places I'd brag about.

it is not canceled it just takes a very long break. Another show who is also doing that is Scooby doo and guess who https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooby...d_Guess_Who%3F See how long it takes until the next episode airs? While Bat woman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batwom...ries)#Episodes has only one month break.

The 2012–2017 Nickelodeon TMNT cartoon would usually air episodes weekly for one month, then go on vacation for one month. No new episodes aired during December (except season 1 airing into mid December 2012)

One of the longest breaks lasted from November 2016 until February 2017 (with some episodes airing in South Korea, where Christmas is no big thing, in December 2016)

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showat...tles/listings/

We know all of this see? This happend many times with many tv shows.

On the Dutch Nicktoons however, that's not the way they do things. They usually do reruns of the first season until the new episodes have been overdubbed and released.

This time, NO reruns, no promo spots, not even a single mention of the show having aired at all.

While I would agree, these days forums everywhere are dying and most people moved to all those places or youtube. It's where the fandom for almost anything is now.

Although the median age bracket of Tumblr is what? I'm not sure that it really reflects the entire fanbase and more commonly a particular younger section of it? So it may not really explain where most of the old ones went if forums are no the thing anymore.

Twitter... maybe some older ones rely on it, but I'm guessing the format is better support for casuals. And with things like that the norm now, many just don't seem to have the patience or attention span for actual conversation anymore, which is a shame.

Reddit... from what I've seen lurking it sometimes, it surprises me how often users seem clueless about things we here had already long known about, so Reddit likewise in part seems a little more casual centered than here, though unlike other sources it seems like a mix of maybe semi-casuals and more serious fans...or growing fans.

I dunno, my guess is that a lot of the older main fanbase is just made up of busy adults these days that may just lurk a lot more than they interact. (Plus this place can be hard to get into, so...)

Note, I'm not discounting the younger section as less valuable as fans, just that I know that half of them (particularly in the Tumblr subset) are bound to wander off eventually.


I doubt forums will cease to exist for a long time though. There's always going to be those like us who actually want to discuss things, and short attention span platforms like Twitter are never going to be adequate.




Anyway... back to the real topic, if Nicktoons Holland really did pull the plug, then would they not even show the rest of the second season?

By median age of tumblr do you mean biologically or mentally?

The last airing of ROTTMNT on Nicktoons Holland was in the final weekend of 2019. I guess their thinking was "This hasn't worked, we'll air it one last time and when the new year starts drop it."

What's interesting though is that the 2012 series is not only in re-runs on Nicktoons Holland but also is aired three times a day, which was more often than Rise was ever shown.

Ratings are everything here.