Is the song “Girls just want to have fun” subtly sexist?
 

People generally think the song was a feminist song given it was a smash hit. But the phrase “girls just want to have fun” subtly means girls cannot be hard workers, or take things seriously, or contribute to the workforce because they “just want to have fun.”

I feel like the lyrics “That’s all they really waaaaant” doesn’t really jive well in today’s modern society of 2020. If girls just want to have fun does that mean they don’t do anything serious or contribute to society? What do you think?

Discuss and debate amongst yourselves.

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The song was actually written by Robert Hazard in 1979 before it became a hit in 1983. So a man wrote the song about what he thought women wanted.

just a song, never read into it, no big deal here.

Too many people - typically millenials - assign an "ism" or "ist" to basically any content that makes blanket statements of any kind.

That is called being draconian. That kind of thinking is usually reserved for people who can't compute real information in real time with real understanding, so instead they rely on conforming to the simplest thought or rule at all costs without any understanding beyond that basic, basic meaning.

Now I'll give cubed the benefit of the doubt that this was basically nothing more than a conversation starter as opposed to an actual "intellectual" (-retarded-) perspective, but traditionally these observations are fringe analysis for mouth breathers.

We really use the "isms" and "ists" very liberally nowadays.

But on another note, you guys should see some of the conversation that takes place from some Indiana Jones fans about the Temple of Doom. LMAO! I mean... I get it. But Christ lighten up. The fact is we make blanket statements because those statements are born in some kind of truth. So if that's true and yet still considered "racism', then "racism" can be used liberally as a descriptor, because then not all racism should be negative or a pejorative.

People have "conversations" about Temple of Doom that go deeper than, "Jesus, that sucked!" and/or, "Damn, that dumb bitch has some nice titties"?

News to me.

LOL! Every once in a while you'll have a mouth breather post where the word choice conveys the kind of idiot you are talking to. So in regards to TOD, you will occassionally see something simple-minded like "Is Temple of Doom Racist" combining the title with an active verb or assigning an agenda to the movie, as opposed to something like "Are the Indian scenes in TOD subtly racist commentary or blanket statement humor?" or "Is the thematic content in TOD actually racist commentary?".

But instead when you read "Is Temple of Doom Racist" you know right away you are talking to a simple minded ****. Ironically, the actual Temple of Doom houses a racist cult within the context of the movie - Mola Ram and his cult believe themselves to be superior to the stone holder communities and his cult exploits them for power. Yet when someone posts "Is TOD Racist" that's not what they mean - what they mean is some kind of social commentary, pencil-whipping the term "racist", as if a movie on celluloid is racist as opposed to being a vehicle for racist beliefs or overtones.

There's a distinct difference between the two - one that illustrates how mouth breathers flawed belief system as they pencil whip occurrences of "racism" in society; while the other examples I gave dissects meaning in communication mediums such as movies.

((Shrug)) I just never cared for the film. It's always been my least-favorite Indy movie; "Crystal Skull" did nothing to move the needle, "Temple" remains in last place. EXCEPT for those juicy mams. I could ogle them for hours; just, sheez, shut UP, lady!

In the immortal words of Stewie Griffin playing as Short Round: "Lady only here because she banging director." :lol: :trazz:

My "fondest" memories of the film (again, aside from dem tittiez :tgrin:) was once when I was little, I tried to scam my way through a book report by doing a report on the book adaptation of the movie. Didn't fly. After that the teacher had to pre-approve all books chosen for book reports. Which she probably should have been doing already, so I guess SHE learned a valuable lesson. :tgrin:

But yeah, that's all I got. "Last Crusade" 4-Life.

LOL, Elsa was, by far the hottest Indy chick. And you should see her even to this day. OMG, say "Trophy Wife".

Hmm... it's definitely a strong case. However, Willie certainly had it goin' on, as annoying as she was. And I'm a sucker for the incomparable charms of Karen Allen. What she lacks in pure "hotness" she makes up for in pure spunk.

Man, Indy got, just, the best trim.

This really does put a damper on a LOT of entertainment anymore.

I want to make a game where people take pop culture and find ways it isn't woke.

For my part, I try and take conversations about whether or not something is "subtly sexist", and make them blatantly and overtly sexist. :tgrin: And that, for me, can be quite entertaining.

A buddy of mine and I have these sort of strange analyses of films that we've discussed on and off for like 20 years now. We've got this whole thing where Darth Vader is an S&M freak under the leather and the Emperor sits around saying creepy **** not wearing anything under his robes - it's a riot.

Then we had this crazy story/conversation we wove, drunk out of our minds one night about what would happen if the Death Star crossed Universes, how would anyone stop it? You'd have He-Man riding Battlecat in the trenches just swinging his sword in circles above his head trying to get in. Iron Man flying through space towards the planet killing dish and there's a beam of light and the next thing you see is empty bloody armor floating through space. The camera cuts to the Emperor in his throne room and in the background you hear this sort of "thud" sound and the Emperor does that head turn and sees Spider-Man on his glass window looking in from space, so the Emperor makes that "ehhhh" sound he makes and sort of waves his hand using the force to splatter Spider-Man like bug on the windshield of the Death Star and then just turns back to whatever he was doing....


**** like that...

The movie "Legend" is 100% about Tom Cruise trying to come to terms with being gay.

I'm too tired to go into detail but I've written many a thesis on the subject. The symbolism and metaphor, well... it's something.

You think its funny, but I am fairly sure, if you look long enough, someone made the same theory with a completely straight face.

HAHAHAHAH at the two posts above....

What

10 characters...

I find Weird Al Yankovic's Girls Just Want to Have Lunch to be more overtly sexist.

Like it starts with "The Darkness" (Tim Curry) being representative of All The Gay, and Whatsername obviously represents Being Hetero, and Tim Curry is cutting off all the unicorn horns because they obviously represent erections and he wants all the erections for himself, and there's obviously a lot more to it but like I said, I'm tiiiiiired. It's also why Cruise and the girl don't end up together at the end, because he's realized and made peace with the fact that he's gay but doesn't want to ruin her masturbation fantasies and also she needs someone to help her decorate and stuff so he's alright with being her Gay Best Friend if that's what she needs from him. It's a really complicated thing.

It's basically a longform version of the Tom Cruise "You can't catch me, Gay Thoughts!" meme. I know that as-scripted it was an entirely different movie than what it ended up being once filmed, so I'm pretty sure it began as a Rocky Horror sequel and it ends in the original script with Curry and Cruise giving each other a prostate massage while the girl sits in the corner and cries over a gallon of ice cream about how "all the nice ones" end up gay.

You think I'm joking, but this goes deeper than you even know.

I mean... obviously. Now in hindsight I can't understand how I ever thought anything but this.... :lol::lol:

-God- lol
I can see that. But you've unpacked it incredibly well.

:lol::lol::lol: lol omg I just can't.

Dude I can't imagine the drunk nights we would've had had you known me and a few of my buddies when we were younger.

Chaos at Denny's at 4 a.m., man. Chaos.

Sounds about right. I am sure we would both claim to have INVENTED "Chaos At Denny's" if nothing else.

My buddy once kicked me out of his house because I ruined The Parent Trap for him once I pointed out that the butler or housekeeper or whatever was obviously diddling Lohan's character. I thought we all knew already! :lol: The f*ck was I supposed to know that another grown man took "The Parent Trap" of all things so goddamn seriously?! Plus... c'mon. Bruce f*cking Wayne wasn't such good pals with his butler and his parents were f*cking DEAD. Am I the only one who notices these things?! THAT GIRL WAS IN TROUBLE!

I swear to God, the guy gave me a whole big speech about how it was his dream to one day live on a vineyard and everything, and now he can never watch that movie again. :lol: Sensitive!

See, you don't invite me over to drink Guinness and watch bad movies unless you WANT me to ruin your entire life. Because I'm gonna do that by accident anyways, but once the disc is in the tray all bets are OFF, pally. MST ain't got sh*t on this mu'fukka.

At the same time, I will slit throats if someone disrespects or even speaks out of turn during "Young Guns", so yeah, kind of a huuuuuge hypocrite about this. But I don't CARE, when you're as funny as me, THEN you get to make the rules. Not until, no exceptions.

I think all our parents did different drugs than the kids' parents today do. That's all I can figure.

Ian McDiarmid is gay , gives new meaning to dark side of the Force :P

Is he really? Man, was ANYBODY in those movies straight?

I mean I wanna say Harrison Ford, but he's been with Calista Flockheart for a while, which implies that he's less "straight" than he is "Scarecrow-sexual". :lol:

Seriously, she needs to eat something. A lot of something.

Are they still together?

Holy ****, she's 55?!

Well, they've been together for 10 years. That's nice. I'm surprised she isn't seen more often.

That's because she's usually standing sideways, and thus invisible.

You should be careful who you murder, Leo. The hospitals are packed as it is. . .

Haha, I know! They're even letting violent criminals loose after threatening people with weapons, because they're not as dangerous as people sniffling! Cuuuuuh-RAZY! :lol:

I need some nerd to draw the stick figure guy shrugging out of text images, just to nail it home. I can't figure out how to do it because I've had sex without paying for it.

In the closet :

Kristanna Loken (maybe shes bi)
Gina Gershon (there was rumor she had a thing with Bill Clinton so who knows)

You dont hear much about Pinchot but i think hes straight , Linn Baker got married some yrs ago. Also just cuz some man married tona woman does not make them straight , case in point Max Wright who got together with a man just after wife died)

I also suspect Ken Kercheval was gay , ive a letter he wrote to a man and sometimes you can read between the lines , it seems too intimate for another man to write such a letter unless hes into men , just my opinion though

I heard Loken came out ages ago. Like at least ten years ago.

But girls really DO "just wanna have fun "! We just don't discuss HOW..... :toops: :twink: :trazz: :tlol:

...by getting the numbers right on the quarterly earnings reports and submitting them before deadline?

Uh, suuure, if that's your idea of "fun".....

That's canon, now. Girls go to sleep overs and giggle over the minutes of last week's sales meeting.

You, too, eh? Hubby and I used to invade our local Denny's late at night with a group of friends when we were still dating and take over the back corner. And once, we went in- just the two of us- dressed in very "nondescript professional casual" attire, and we pretended to be making some kind of deal about a "hit", complete with a folder with some random papers (actually D&D character sheets and old schoolwork) and a roll of fake money- the works. Had a whole conversation over how/when/etc. Juuust loud enough for other tables to "overhear" what was going on. Great prank, we had one table get up and leave in a hurry, a couple that came in, heard us talking, and then found a table as far away as they could get, and another couple with kids kept shooting us nervous glances and telling them to stop staring at us. It was hilarious. Got even better when our friend who always dressed in a long trench and a "Dundee" style hat came in and joined us. He's also very dark Latino with long hair and a full beard, so he made a kind of suspicious figure. We left later that night laughing our rears off over all the reactions we were getting!

Anything's sexist if you think they are

Hmm, the only problem I have with this theory is that Jack and Lily DID end up together! I mean, he even went BACK into the pond to retrieve the d@*n ring she tossed in as her challenge at the beginning! And the last shot in the film is LITERALLY of them together with the elf and dwarves, waving as the two unicorns run off happily together into the sunset. So, if anyone was gay, it was Curry. And that goblin weirdo.

Wikipedia and "Word-Of-God" says that the movie's ending is misleading. As-scripted and shot, they do not actually end up together, they agree to just stay Really Good Friends ("Gay Best Friend" trope?). The studio took final cut away from the filmmakers and clip/pasted a different ending because they knew it would make more money.

That movie is a very fascinating story of What Is vs. What Almost Was, as the movie they wrote ended up being almost nothing like the movie they made, mostly due to studio meddling. Like it's not a bad movie but it's very "safe" and generic which is the total opposite of what the creators originally wanted to make, so that's a shame. I've only ever seen the Director's Cut for the last 10+ years so I can't even remember the American theatrical version. It's got some fairly big differences compared to the American Theatrical cut, including the ending.

Most of the world saw the Director's Cut, and it's the only version of the movie that the people who made it embrace, so that's what's "canon", to me. It's not even close to the movie they wanted to make, but it's "closer" to what they wanted people to see. So I personally defer to that.