Super Mario 35th Anniversary Games Announced
 

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...es-old-and-new

Nintendo Switch's first-party line-up for the rest of 2020 will be dominated by Mario games old and new, to coincide with the original Super Mario Bros.' 35th anniversary.

That's according to Eurogamer sources with knowledge of Nintendo's upcoming plans, who have corroborated a report posted by VGC.

First, the report states Nintendo will release "most of Super Mario's 35-year back catalogue this year, remastered for Nintendo Switch".

There's no detail on which games this includes, but the article includes a banner image of Mario Galaxy, perhaps intended to suggest the Wii classic as one of these games.

Eurogamer sources have indicated that Mario Galaxy is indeed one of the games being readied for a remaster, alongside a couple of other 3D Mario favourites. [UPDATE: Gematsu has now confirmed these as Mario 64 and Mario Sunshine, which Eurogamer can corroborate.]

Many earlier Mario games are already available on Switch via the console's Switch Online NES and SNES apps.

Second, the report states "several other Mario titles" will release in 2020, including a new Paper Mario.

Eurogamer sources have confirmed a new Paper Mario is in the works, along with a Deluxe version of Super Mario 3D World, which will include an array of new levels. This long-rumoured Wii U port is one of a couple of first-party games from Nintendo's previous console currently due for a new lease of life in 2020.

When contacted for this story, Nintendo gave Eurogamer its traditional response that it did not comment on rumour or speculation.

If this is legit, Im gonna need a bigger SD card....

Hmm, I never really saw 35th as a big enough anniversary to celebrate. Once you pass 25th, seems like you're only supposed to commemorate the anniversaries that end in 0.

Of course, I'm not complaining about more Mario. :tlol:

If true I'd be a complete sucker for this.

Mario collection? One that includes most games? Let me guess:

• Donkey Kong
• Mario Bros
• Super Mario Bros
• SMB2/Lost Levels
• SM USA/SMB2
• SMB3
• Land
• Land 2
• World
• 64
• Sunshine
• New Super Mario Bros
• NSMB2
• NSMBU
• Galaxy
• Galaxy 2
• 3D Land
• 3D world

I'd love to see a Mario Sunshine HD.

Half of these games are on the Switch already, with the NES/SNES games on the online service and New Super Mario Bros U having a Wii U port. Theyre saying Mario 64, Sunshine, the first Galaxy and 3D World are the ones being re-released.

^^^

People would shell out for a physical copy of the nes/snes games as a compilation.

Also at least for the 3D games they'll be given HD remasters if not a graphical overhaul and even some minor changes to the gameplay.

SM64 at LEAST needs a graphical overhaul.

the controls and gameplay have not aged well.

Mario 64 is actually one of the oldest 3D games that still looks good to this day, must be because of how cartoony it looks.

OMG, OMG, OMG

Although I kinda wish 3D All Stars did a graphical overhaul of 64 and Sunshine. Seems likely the former will still have the clunky camera and the latter will have the same problems that keep it from being a 10/10 game.

It's good to see 3D World getting a lot of love these days for a while it seemed that it's reputation was that of a lesser Mario game but it's been one of my favourites since it was first released. Looking forward to the new mode whatever it is.

Eeeeeeehhhh....

... Let's be honest here, even at the time SM64 was a weird looking game. I'm not sure why you think it still looks good when a good chunk of it looks really strange. Like what the hell is wet-dry world even meant to be? A sunken city or a bunker?

Games with cartoon-like aesthetics generally age better than games who strive for realism. That being said the blocky-ness of Super Mario 64 is still jarring.

A graphical upgrade similar to Ocarina of Time 3D wouldn't have been too difficult.

It looks like a Mario level. Plus it had the cool background city which I always tried to get to when I was a kid.

Nintendo's out of touchness is both their greatest weakness and strength. Here we have a barebones collection, not even Galaxy 2? jeeze. Just a few more bells and whistles would've made it better, and maybe it has them but show them.

Some places are getting 3D All Stars in less than two weeks so if there was any new surprises they'd have shown us.

Yeah it's disappointing. A graphical upgrade would have been in keeping with the original All Stars which gave the NES games a 16 bit makeover. I know for me when I think of the original Super Mario Bros games I always think of the All Stars version.

While I appreciate that the original basic Sprite work for Super Mario Bros sprites have a certain retro charm I don't think many people feel the same about the polygons of Super Mario 64. They really should have done something with the graphics if nothing else.

From what they showed, Mario Sunshine and Mario Galaxy both look great in HD. Especially Galaxy, which was already a good looking game on the Wii but just needed an HD resolution to really show off what it was selling, and well, now we got it.

The lack of Galaxy 2 is quite strange though. I always thought it was the better of the two and the fact that they even deliberately snubbed it from their Mario montage is very shady. Like they didn't want to remind anyone about it so they wouldn't question its absence in the collection.

They honestly could have gotten away with selling both Galaxy games in a separate collection, but I really can't see them trying to release Galaxy 2 by itself at full price or even at a discounted one. At this point, the only way they could implement it is through DLC. I doubt this game will be limited forever, so I can definitely see something along the lines of "we brought the game back due to popular demand and also, Galaxy 2 is now available as DLC" just to score them bonus points with us later and give the game that second wind.

The reason this is a limited run is they're probably going to sell all the games seperately later. Galaxy 2 will probably come out later.

Mario 3D Land is still a 3DS exclusive though, it's probably not going to have its levels brought over to 3D World.

That's what I'm thinking, N64 Switch Online will include Mario 64 and they'll sell Wii and Gamecube games for $30 a pop. There's no other reason to not include it in the collection or make this limited time. Also explains why they didn't do much of anything to make it special

I think they should've done something with the graphics, look at what the PC port of Mario 64 has done as a fan project or even Mario 64 DS. But I do love the blocky N64 graphics, they have a certain charm as well but I can play those in an emulator for a release like this I would want a better version even if in the end it's "inferior" to the original.

Yeah, no way are they going to not HD all past mario games.

https://i.redd.it/92qe5r90xyk51.png

Some comparisons already, left is the Switch remaster and right is the N64 original. They're definitely improving the graphics a little while keeping the same general look of the original.

Sunshine and Galaxy should also look great in HD.

I guess you're right about it looking better? At least in a technical sense. Though low-poly is still low poly. SM64 isn't some indie title that uses low poly as a stylistic choice and/or cost saver, it's low poly because it's one of the earliest 3D games ever made.

Super Mario 64's graphics still look fine though. It doesn't need to be re-done in Odyssey style graphics because it'd lose all the charm and identity of the original. I'm glad it's not getting a full blown remake, the art style is what I associate with Mario 64 and it would take away all the nostalgia of the original.

Well, there is one thing to look forward to with this rerelease and that's the camerea. The Wii U rerelease just mapped the C-buttons to the right stick and it was frustrating to move the camera as such. If this one actually lets you have analogue camera control, then that would be golden.

Since SM64 has been rereleased before it definitely should have gotten a true graphics upgrade to match the others. That was part of the point of the old All Stars. Cleaner edges and higher resolution is not enough anymore.

The Game and Watch is cute but $50 is too expensive for 2 NES games that are available everywhere. The Classic/Mini was $60 (assuming you bought it at the retail price) and has 30 games.

I’m only interested in 3D World +. Always wanted it for WiiU but this is the obvious choice now. I would like Galaxy but as mentioned already they’re probably gonna release them individually. Maybe part 2 also.

Agreed. This is bullsh** on Mario 64. "The graphics had a charm," blah blah... no, they could have taken it up a few notches. Just sharpening up old, blocky polygons without actually improving them/the polygon count just makes things look worse, I've seen. Like with the FF VIII and IX remaster.

Mostly I'll just buy this for Mario Sunshine.

The N64 is one of my favourite consoles ever but frankly compared to what was being put out on the PlayStation you could see the graphics were not even impressive for the time. Sure Mario being very cartoon-like it was less of an issue than it was in say Zelda which at the time was supposed to look 'real' but it's still jarring.

If they could update the aesthetics for the release on the DS to look like a then modern game they could have done it here.

If they were gonna go through all that effort, they would sell it by itself at full price.

They did it with the NES games when they did the original Super Mario All Stars bringing the graphics and audio to 16 Bit standard. I don't think it was unrealistic to expect something similar.

I've seen some people speculate they do have 'proper' remasters of 64 on the way to explain why this is only getting a limited release but I don't really see that as plausible myself.

Nintendo's whole business strategy with the Switch, NES and SNES minis and now this is basically what people thought Cartman inadvertently hit on when he ran his theme park.

If they were all getting full remakes each of them would be sold separately for $60. Obviously this is just an HD upgrade.

Yeah, I agree with you. Even to this day, I still think 64 looks good.

Nintendo was competing with Sega at the time. Nintendo currently has a niche in the market which is why they never drop their prices. If you're buying a Switch, it's not as a substitute to Playstation or Xbox, and Nintendo knows this. This is why they can afford to keep their prices up and treat their games as premium products. You can't really expect them to remake or extensively remaster Mario 64 and sell it as part of a compilation. It sucks, but if anyone can get away with it, it's Nintendo, because what else are you gonna do? Not play their games? As disappointing as it may be, I still think you're getting a fair value with the collection. 20 bucks a game. Can't really complain about that.

Also remaking 2D games like Mario 1-3 in All-stars graphics is obviously not the same as remaking graphics for huge 20+ hour games like all the 3D Mario games are.

It takes roughly 20 or more hours to get all the stars in each 3D Mario, so it's a huge undertaking to remake all the worlds completely in modern graphics. Sunshine and Galaxy should look good in HD, I still remember how Galaxy look impressive on the Wii back in 2007 compared to PS3/360 games at the time.

Mario 64 graphics is considered iconic, it doesn't need to be remade. Back in the 90s retrogaming and pixelart were not a thing and this is why they decided to remake the graphics of mario bros 1-3 for the all-stars collection. Now it's different, you can sell old games as they are, as an important piece of hystory.

I think the graphics should be the same. Now that I am playing the Link's awakening remake, I think the graphics look kinda of "off" compare to the gameboy.

The Link's Awakening remake was praised for it's visual aesthetic. Ocarina of Time 3D was seen as a near perfect realisation of what the game should have looked if it. I don't think the polygons and wonky camera of the original are so iconic that it couldn't be be updated to a modern standard.

I get Nintendo's business reasons for not doing it but I'm just saying they should have done it.

Super Mario 64 has been ported digitally with enhancements and on DS with extras. By now this SHOULD have been updated with modernized graphics. Especially in the context of an anniversary compilation.

It has nothing to do with nostalgia or the N64 graphics being iconic. Those versions are widely available. Its about giving people a significant reason to play the game again.

It would not have been too difficult either. It’s been done to other fully 3D games. All 3 original Spyro games did it.

The fact that Super Mario 64 is a ton of fun no matter what it looks like is a good enough "reason for people to play it again." Also the reason why the original N64 cartridge version is the only one I own or have ever played.

"Waaaaaah, I can only play old games if they're pretty!" You people make me sick!

Again, Anniversary and has already been rereleased in N64 format.

New graphics are a totally reasonable expectation given its been done so well by others.

I mean, nothing crazy was needed. Up the resolution, obviously (which they did)... but when you do that, you need to also up the polygon count or it's going to look sh**.

Kind of like when you watch one of these old 4:3 TV shows from the 80s and 90s that you used to watch on your old tube TV come to 1080p blu-ray (or Netflix, or whatever) and suddenly all of the little mistakes and dirty spots and this and that all come to the forefront with crystal clarity on your 65" 4K screen. It's distracting.