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TigerClaw 04-29-2020 06:01 PM

Hercules Live Action Remake in development at Disney
 
Looks like Disney is developing a live action remake of Hercules.
https://thedisinsider.com/2020/04/29...rs-in-the-mix/

sdp 04-29-2020 06:08 PM

They're running out of films, we'll definitely get to atlantis.


I'd love it if they got Kevin Sorbo to play Zeus, sadly he's gone on too many racist tirades over the last few years so I doubt they'll asking him to do it.

Galactus 04-29-2020 07:10 PM

I like Disney's Hercules but it'd definitely a flawed movie. I wouldn't mind if they significantly changed it up.

Xav 04-29-2020 07:22 PM

I wonder what race he's gonna be.

Autbot_Benz 04-30-2020 03:08 PM

Russo Brothers are producing this movie

https://collider.com/hercules-disney...source=twitter

Sumac 04-30-2020 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav (Post 1844067)
I wonder what race he's gonna be.

He himself, most likely white (greek / midterranian), Disney are not that far gone, I hope.
Other characters might get a race lift, though.

Galactus 04-30-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz (Post 1844157)
Russo Brothers are producing this movie

https://collider.com/hercules-disney...source=twitter

Now...that's encouraging.

Autbot_Benz 04-30-2020 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus (Post 1844162)
Now...that's encouraging.

I agree after their MCU success it make sense

frank_one 04-30-2020 05:35 PM

I would rewatch the whole Hercules and Xena series rather than another of these Disney's remakes.

PApagreg 04-30-2020 05:49 PM

Why does Disney hate animation so much?

turtle1237 05-01-2020 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1844159)
He himself, most likely white (greek / midterranian), Disney are not that far gone, I hope.
Other characters might get a race lift, though.

Greeks can be black as the Disney argument over the Little Mermaid.

I think Disney did Greek Mythology wrong for the most part in the movie. Hades was never really a "Evil" or bad God. Death was a part of life, and Hades was just the circle of life like the Lion King would say. Than Disney late 90's movie comes in and boom they made Hades the villain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ije2WDJttrc

Loved Red's view on this.

neatoman 05-01-2020 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PApagreg (Post 1844172)
Why does Disney hate animation so much?

It's a relatively time consuming process and the box office returns are expected to be lower.

MsMarvelDuckie 05-01-2020 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1844220)
It's a relatively time consuming process and the box office returns are expected to be lower.


Frozen would like a word with you....

neatoman 05-01-2020 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie (Post 1844227)
Frozen would like a word with you....

  1. The Princess and the Frog
  2. Winnie the Pooh (2011)
  3. Bolt
  4. Meet the Robinsons
  5. Chicken Little
  6. Home on the Range
  7. Treasure Planet
  8. Atlantis: The Lost Empire
  9. The Emperor's New Groove
  10. Fantasia 2000

These are 10 of the 21 animated features Disney released in the past 21 years (not counting Pixar). They either did poorly or straight up lost money.

The following movies failed to quadruple their budget, so they didn't do poorly but were not a big success either:
  1. Dinosaur
  2. Lilo & Stitch
  3. Tangled
  4. Wreck-It Ralph
  5. Ralph Breaks the Internet

So out the 21 movies, 6 were really successful, 5 only did moderately well and 10 did poorly. Essentially, Animated Disney movies have a 25% chance of doing really well, 25% chance of moderate success and 50% rick of failure.

Leofan26 05-01-2020 05:12 PM

Oh come on, this didn't do good as a lot of the other Disney films that got confirmed for a live action film. They really are desperate here. We better get a Alantis live action film than.

Sumac 05-01-2020 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by turtle1237 (Post 1844216)
Greeks can be black as the Disney argument over the Little Mermaid.

I won't be surprised if they do this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtle1237 (Post 1844216)
I think Disney did Greek Mythology wrong for the most part in the movie. Hades was never really a "Evil" or bad God. Death was a part of life, and Hades was just the circle of life like the Lion King would say. Than Disney late 90's movie comes in and boom they made Hades the villain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ije2WDJttrc

Loved Red's view on this.

Yeah, this part really pisses me off, as the fan of Greek Mythology. Hades was probably the nicest of Greek Gods, but since he is associated with the death and underworld let's turn him into evil ugly freak. :x

It's like when moviemakers made Anubis evil in the Mummy Returns.

turtle1237 05-02-2020 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1844245)
I won't be surprised if they do this.


Yeah, this part really pisses me off, as the fan of Greek Mythology. Hades was probably the nicest of Greek Gods, but since he is associated with the death and underworld let's turn him into evil ugly freak. :x

It's like when moviemakers made Anubis evil in the Mummy Returns.

We also have to face facts, there really was like only 1 or 2 GOOD Hercules movies. And they both had Steve Reeves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQv3IknYwcE

So Disney needs to set down to a Old Steve Reeves movie of his sword and sandal days and see what makes Hercules Hercules.

Andrew NDB 05-02-2020 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie (Post 1844227)
Frozen would like a word with you....

That's CGI.

Shark_Blade 05-02-2020 08:48 PM


Leo656 05-02-2020 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1844298)
That's CGI.

Yeah, maybe it's pedantic but I don't lump CGI in with "animation" either, or at the very least I'll use "CGI animation" as a qualifier. I know it's technically "animation" but I feel like it deserves its own categorization.

MsMarvelDuckie 05-03-2020 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1844230)
  1. The Princess and the Frog
  2. Winnie the Pooh (2011)
  3. Bolt
  4. Meet the Robinsons
  5. Chicken Little
  6. Home on the Range
  7. Treasure Planet
  8. Atlantis: The Lost Empire
  9. The Emperor's New Groove
  10. Fantasia 2000

These are 10 of the 21 animated features Disney released in the past 21 years (not counting Pixar). They either did poorly or straight up lost money.

The following movies failed to quadruple their budget, so they didn't do poorly but were not a big success either:
  1. Dinosaur
  2. Lilo & Stitch
  3. Tangled
  4. Wreck-It Ralph
  5. Ralph Breaks the Internet

So out the 21 movies, 6 were really successful, 5 only did moderately well and 10 did poorly. Essentially, Animated Disney movies have a 25% chance of doing really well, 25% chance of moderate success and 50% rick of failure.


I have a problem with this list, though- MOST of those you just listed were made when Disney was on a downslope after the "Renaissance" era. And several of those were the reason WHY. IE, they were either too obscure (Meet the Robinsons, Home on the Range) or too far from their usual formula (Chicken Little, Bolt) Atlantis actually did well enough to get a sequel (dtv), Fantasia 2000 WAS a sequel, and Emperor's New Groove did well enough to have a cartoon series, so, no, not really failures by the standards of the day. Which, btw, were actually partly BEFORE the "make at least half a billion or it's a failure" became a thing.

The "moderately successful" movies you mentioned were in fact considered quite successful for the time, particularly Lilo and Stitch and Wreck It Ralph. Both got sequels, and Lilo even had it's own series as well, owing to its popularity.


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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1844298)
That's CGI.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1844309)
Yeah, maybe it's pedantic but I don't lump CGI in with "animation" either, or at the very least I'll use "CGI animation" as a qualifier. I know it's technically "animation" but I feel like it deserves its own categorization.


I kind of feel that it needs to be said, but CG=animation. Just because it's on a screen instead of paper, doesn't make it any less animated. Different tools, but the process is very similar, and ends with the same result. Pictures of imaginary/cartoon people or whatever that move on screen. Disney helped pioneer this way back in the Tron era! (The cg parts were in fact considered animated, as they were done BY THE ANIMATION DEPARTMENT.)

Leo656 05-03-2020 01:44 AM

It's "animation", sure, in the sense that it's bringing static images into motion. But there's enough to differentiate the two in both presentation and execution that it doesn't feel right to lump "traditional" and "CGI" animation under a blanket term.

"Stop-motion" is technically "animation" as well. But people always, always qualify it as "stop-motion", they don't just call it "animation".

Again, probably pedantic. But still accurate. Especially since there are many people who are fans of one animated medium but can often strongly dislike another. So the qualifier does matter if we're factoring in why certain animated films either were or weren't successful. Styles, trends, and tastes are all important data when looking at the big picture of why some things did better than others, and when.

ranger_scout 08-25-2022 11:47 AM

Guy Ritchie, who directed the live-action Aladdin, has signed on to direct the film. That makes sense because it is a similar story and Disney is doing what John Favreau did by having him do The Lion King remake after he did the new The Jungle Book.

https://deadline.com/2022/06/hurcule...in-1235047935/

Danny DeVito really wants to reprise his role as Phil, Hercules’ mentor.

https://comicbook.com/movies/news/da...tion-hercules/

Andrew NDB 08-25-2022 11:48 AM

This reminds me. Did anyone see that Hercules movie with the Rock that came out like 5 minutes ago? Was that any good?

Cowabung-Gal 08-25-2022 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ranger_scout (Post 1942771)
Guy Ritchie, who directed the live-action Aladdin, has signed on to direct the film.

Okay, then. I’ll go get the tombstone ready. It’ll read, Hercules Live-Action, Another Disney Dud

Last Ronin 08-25-2022 11:36 PM

Disney sure is ****ing up with their live action movies. Haven't liked one not one.

Leofan26 08-27-2022 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranger_scout (Post 1942771)
Guy Ritchie, who directed the live-action Aladdin, has signed on to direct the film. That makes sense because it is a similar story and Disney is doing what John Favreau did by having him do The Lion King remake after he did the new The Jungle Book.

https://deadline.com/2022/06/hurcule...in-1235047935/

Danny DeVito really wants to reprise his role as Phil, Hercules’ mentor.

https://comicbook.com/movies/news/da...tion-hercules/

At least that character should be in CGI and has a big part in it so I don’t know why he couldn’t be, unless they change it like what happened in Snow White live action remake.

So, that guy keeps working on live action versions of Disney movies? I wonder if he gets hate mail?

oldmanwinters 08-27-2022 08:53 PM

Forgive me, but I can never read that name without thinking of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR1UiNdQnDw

TigerClaw 08-28-2022 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leofan26 (Post 1942945)
At least that character should be in CGI and has a big part in it so I don’t know why he couldn’t be, unless they change it like what happened in Snow White live action remake.

So, that guy keeps working on live action versions of Disney movies? I wonder if he gets hate mail?

Guy Ritchie is known for doing a particular style of movies, So its nice that he's doing movies that aren't the type of movies he's usually known for.

Sumac 08-28-2022 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1942996)
Guy Ritchie is known for doing a particular style of movies, So its nice that he's doing movies that aren't the type of movies he's usually known for.

The only thing nice about it - is a hefty paycheck he gets for making generic crap designed by a committee for a lowest common denominator.

turtle1237 09-02-2022 10:32 PM

All later Hercules will always be compared to Steve Reeves. No way Disney will top that imo. Not even there animated film top it.

MsMarvelDuckie 09-09-2022 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1844298)
That's CGI.

Still animation. Doesn't matter if it's digital or by hand, it is the same form of art, the only difference is the method of animating. The fact that 2d animation is largely "dead" makes little difference if they are still doing animated movies.

Sumac 09-10-2022 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie (Post 1943937)
it is the same form of art

No, and most people understand under "animation" 2D stuff.

Shark_Blade 09-10-2022 06:26 AM

Aladdin live action is pretty good so I’m interested.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Last Ronin (Post 1942849)
Disney sure is ****ing up with their live action movies. Haven't liked one not one.

101 Dalmatians live action with Glenn Close >>> 101 Dalmatians animated movie

ranger_scout 11-15-2024 09:49 AM

Rumor has it that the film is being redeveloped and will now be titled Hades. It will be told from Hades' point of view like how Maleficent told the story of Sleeping Beauty from the villain's perspective.

https://www.cbr.com/rumor-disney-her...-remake-trend/


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