Superman: The Man Of Tomorrow Animated Feature (2020)
 

Well, I guess it's official, Warner are abandoning their current DC animated universe and starting from scratch

https://ew.com/movies/darren-criss-z...nimated-movie/

Im so sick of every other DC Animated movie being Superman this Batman that Wonder Woman this.

They have a Pantheon of characters yet they always do the holy trinity

There is a significant number of very strange, sort of "comic book cliche" DC characters, man. I mean, you aren't wrong, but it takes some creative investment to make some of those guys shine. Somehow JLA Unlimited did it....

I would love to see Armageddon 2001 adapted into DC animation.

That would could be cool. They would probably mess it up with an 80 feature though.

Everytime they try to do non Batman or JL movies the sales are lower, even big ones like Superman hence why we get the same stuff over and over again. This line has never stuck to a continuity, they did with Nu52 for a while but hasn't it been a while since they also abandoned that?

This line had a lot of potential but it was inconsistent since the beginning, and they've never tried to have any long term plan which is a shame since by now it's been coming out with movies for 15 years..

Can't we just get a Superman animated series or something, I'm tired of all of these DTV movies

It's been almost six years since the end of Beware the Batman. I'm surprised DC hasn't came out with yet another Batman animated series. I'm fine with that since he was getting too much focus. They celebrated his 80th anniversary and went all out with the hosts of DC's Youtube channel gushing over his greatest moments but I don't recall them doing much for Supes'. The Bat needs a break. Superman and Wonder Woman deserve more attention out of the trinity as of right now.

I might give this a look but I still haven't watched Red Son yet.

Lobo and Parasite sounds kinda promising.

And dude, I'd box my way through an entire senior citizens community to see someone adapt the juicy parts of Armageddon 2001. Throw in "Emerald Twilight" and "Zero Hour" adaptations and I might open the contest up to people who have a vague idea of who and where they are.

I never even thought about it until right now, but dude, I would do things I'm not proud of in exchange for an "Emerald Twilight" adaptation. Now it's gonna bother me forever.

Action cartoons died, I remember how the DC block when we would finally get a bunch of DC cartoons failed miserably. But it's been nearly a decade since then surely there has to be a shift back to action eventually, right?

They tried to do one before Man of Steel came out but they decided there was no market, so now that they can't even get a superman movie out things are even worse. Even Batman can't get a cartoon nowadays. Justice League Action failing not only spelled the doom for any other DC hero not Batman/Superman, but even the big 2.

Beware the Batman was a novel idea, only watched one episode and it was weird, unsure how the rest of the show was. I think people were just Batman overloaded, after The Batman we got Brave and the Bold immediately and then we got Beware right after B&TB, no time to breath or miss Batman, similar to what happened with TMNT. We are definitely due a new Batman show.

Lobo and Parasite are obscure characters? I mean Parasite maybe after all anything other than Lex, Brainiac and Zod you kinda get a bit fuzzy with Supes enemies but Lobo was quite the big deal for DC back in the 90s to the point they thought he could beat Woverine in a popularity contest.

I'd love to see some animated Vertigo adaptions, while they aren't shying away from the content. I may even forgive the cheap animation were they to nail the other elements.

The Invisibles, Preacher, Before Watchmen, or Shade the Changing Man could all be a lot of fun.

hell id take an animated Swamp Thing movie too

IMO, Justice League and BVS poisoned brand to the point that Batman is no longer is a sure-money maker he was for DC throughout the last decade.

If this was 2017 I would agree with you but now we got tons of more mature action animated series with even Harley Quinn having her own popular tv series.

Young Justice Season 4 is coming, and it's pretty much the only action cartoon DC had for the entire 2010 decade.

Except for Green Lantern, Beware the Batman, Justice League Action and if you want to make a reach DC Superhero girls

Not really the line is only now being discontinued with the upcoming Justice League Dark follow-up coming soon

I wouldn't call Harley Quinn 'mature', it's a black comedy and the best thing about it is Ivy.

Well an animated series meant for adult audiences also you misspelled Bane.

I said action cartoon, we don't need any more "adult" comedies.

That's depressing, and the YJ revival was pretty much only done to get hardcore internet fans and shippers into subbing to the DC service and not because they thought it was a good idea.

The original YJ on CN was left to die like the other action DC shows.

It's kind of ironic Teen Titans Season 6 never did happen after all these years. Of any old show that got a revival, you would assume they would bring back the original 2003 series for at least one or two more seasons. I remember there being rumors about it a few years ago but nothing happened. I guess the movie Teen Titans Vs. TT Go is the closest we'll get. I consider it canon.

I mean its technically both there are a lot of episodes with action scenes

I don't know what it is about the Harley Quinn show but I'm not feeling it. I've only seen clips but it's not grabbing me.

For some reason, the same type of humor I enjoy when Robot Chicken uses it in a DC-centric skit, doesn't amuse me as much when it's an "official" product. I'm not sure entirely why that is, I just know that my reaction to A and B is completely different despite the jokes being pretty much the same. All the jokes about sex and bat-f*cking don't come off half as irritating and try-hard within the Robot Chicken framework as they do in this show.

Probably just me, I don't know. Either way, the more I've seen of the Harley show the less I wanna watch it.

I didn't know, the trailers they used to put on my job made it seem like strictly a comedy, it's the image they wanted to portray since I work for the parent company of dc.

shippers prefer YJ over TT, also TTG is bigger than the original show, at this point i guess they see no demand sadly.

My problem with Harley Quinn TAS is that the characters, their dynamic seem to pretty much be whatever the writers want them to be just to make jokes or push the story in a desired direction. Here are some examples:

• When introduced, King Shark goes berserk around blood yet seem to either remain calm or get disgusted around blood in later episodes.
• Ivy directs Harley to seek out Queen of Fables to learn some important life lessons, yet warns her not to associate with her later on.
• Harley is stated to always having been seriously mentally ill, even from early childhood. Yet we're also meant to think she was calm/sane enough between graduating high school and the Joker sessions to earn her doctorate legitmately and make actual progress with some patients.
• Bane shifts from being genuinely stupid to a reasonably sensible guy getting belittled quite often.
• Lex Luthor tells Ivy that Harley was only invited to join the Legion of Doom in order to pressure Ivy to join, because if she doesn't then Harley doesn't get in either. When Harley is about to get in, Ivy tells her what Lex said but Harley gets in anyway. Harley thinks Ivy was trying to prevent her from finding success and gets mad. In the next episode however, they act as if all the blame was on Harley, even though Harley had more than enough reason to think Ivy lied.
• Early in season 2, Harley claims to have no interest in ruling Gotham, but when the A-list villains take over she claims they "stole" her chance to take over.

This sort of thing happens a little too much. I don't really get how they keep doing this, my best guess is that the writers are work from an outline but don't really care about being consistant with eachother.

Well that was when QOF was just a book and was relatively harmless and the woman does have good advice.

Maybe she was good at hiding it keep in mind she graduated valedictorian and was a great enough gymnast to qualify in the Olympics


Its not that Bane in this show is dumb but he is kinda of a insecure dofus not to say he can see the big picture or make wise statements but sometimes he does dumb things.

What reason Ivy hated the LOD, helped Harley get and showed no sense of jealousy in so what reason would Harley think Ivy tried to prevent her into getting in.

I don't mind the constant reboots. Sometimes it's good. Sometimes it's bad. Comics are mercurial in nature. The constant rewrites and retcons are bound to spill over to other media.

So long as we get a decent story, what's the harm?

As for the pantheon of characters: this is a business we're talking about. And you don't roll out your B material during an economic downturn. Right? So it's just Bats, Supes, and WW for the foreseeable future, I'd guess.

Maybe the writers could make it explicit so you don't have to use your imagination?

While it is true that being a talking book would prevent you from causing physical harm, it would not prevent you from giving bad advice, like "Make a giant wolf maul children and their entire families to death in order to prevent anyone taking revenge on you" for example.


I wasn't going to post this page initially because I know some fans of the Harley Quinn character hate the implication that she did not deserve her doctorate, but it's just about the only way I can accept that someone who was always an unhinged and violent sociopath with low discipline could ever earn a doctorate:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/Mk2zKiboKq...p-KtsnCI=s1600

Either that or a diploma mill like in the 2005 Batman cartoon. I just kind of pretend her progress with Ivy was just regular bonding that did not require much expertise, and that she was incompetent with every other patient. This version of Harley seems like she has such a short fuse that she'd get banned from campus quite quickly.

Sure, I'll accept that.

Here's the actual scene. Ivy tells Harley that she was only invited to push her into joining, for the expressed purpose of them going off to do their own thing, right before getting accepted despite Ivy herself not joining. From Harley's perspective, what does she see? Her friend trying a last ditch effort to prevent her from getting ahead. It's not accurate but what else would she get from that?

But otherwise how one can pretend that writing is good? :lol:

I don't even get what that Harley Quinn show even is? Is it an adult comedy? An action cartoon? It looks like something out of Family Guy with DC characters.

Is it supposed to be a parody or a serious cartoon? All the swearing and adult jokes makes it obvious it isn't for kids, but I have no idea what it's for.

It's a parody. There is an ongoing storyline but all the characters act like comedic exaggerations or subversions of what they normally are.

Clayface is an "actor" who can't pull off a single conving performance.
Ivy is an aloof cynic.
Gordon is an overworked loon.
Bane is an insecure exaggeration of the Tom Hardy version.
Robin fails to be taken seriously despite his best efforts (for obvious reasons).
Kite Man is a total loser who somehow managed to woo Ivy.
Batman is like Alfred's angsty teen son.

I think you get the gist of it.

And like I said, for reasons I can't fully explain, I find the entire thing off-putting. Even though I pretty much find the exact same stuff very amusing when either of the Seths (MacFarlane or Green) do practically the same jokes.

I don't know exactly why that is. Maybe part of me feels like DC/WB themselves would be better served trying to get their "proper" house in order rather than devoting resources to taking the piss out of everything when there are already shows that do that. I don't know. I really don't. And that's just one theory anyway. Of course, recent developments across the board have made me less tolerant of Harley Quinn in general, anyway. It's amazing how little time it took to turn me from a casual fan of the character, to feeling like I wouldn't care at all if she disappeared forever tomorrow. In fact I kinda think that would suit me just fine.

All I know is that whenever I see a clip of it in my FB feed, I just go "Ugh."
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Kinda like the art style of this Superman gimmick, though, from the little bit I've seen. Pretty "classic".

UGGH.

Nope, fvck those "Harley Quinn clips." I like the art style, but character design doesn't impress me and no. No, I hate comedic takes on Batman.

Harley Fvckin' Quinn strikes again. Rake in the money.

I like that sometimes you can see her buttcrack.

But I'm a huge pervert, so. Y'know.

I mean what she said did happen so while EVIL its not really bad advice.



I mean this is the DC Universe how many people share at least 2 of those qualities and have the name Doctor as their villain name heck you can describe the Joker with those terms but he is apparently a genius chemist.



I mean the point of that scene is trust maybe Ivy could've word it better but she has been nothing if not supportive whith Harley schemes so maybe Harley could've not brushed her off at the flip of a dime.

I'm not saying the writing is perfect and I agree with two of your points(King Shark and the "Stole bit")

Also seeing how we are doing clips it has weirdly attractive Riddler.

I don't know what to think of Harley Quinn, the trailers make me believe it'll be a dumb comedy and many seem to confirm my opinon but some people do praise it, maybe i won't know until I watch it. I'm not sure if I'd consider it an action show.

The show doesn't seemt o be SJW influenced but I did find this clip making fun of their target audience:


Counting harley does seem sexualized, if they do make fun of everyone, it's no issue, comedy should have no barriers and making fun of neckbeards is fun too, if it's only making fun of that specific audience then yeah i can see it being lame comedy

It's alright, the best character is Ivy, I love her relationship with Kite Man.

I just crave a comicbook based animated series with impressive animation. I thought that was the whole point of cartoons, but what do I know.

You aint getting that with any Marvel cartoons that's for sure funny enough Rise of the TMNT actually fit that mold.

While “Rise...” was still doing something different than the more detailed, yet still luscious animation I want, I’d still take that animation style over what these DC animated films are doing. Definitely impressive in its own right.