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Andrew NDB 02-27-2020 10:13 AM

Jim Lawson original TMNT comic: "Turtles 2030"
 
https://i.ibb.co/X86SzhV/889816db59b...0-original.jpg

It's being included as an incentive if you back his "Box City Wallops" Kickstarter. As long as you back a physical copy, you get a copy of "Turtles 2030" for free.

The Kickstarter:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...7McCo3guuNaHvg

Lord Nightwalker 02-27-2020 10:20 AM

Thanks for the heads up Andrew. Definitely worth a look.

Shedder 02-27-2020 12:30 PM

dammit you hooked me

AquaParade 02-27-2020 12:40 PM

A Jim Lawson "TMNT Fan-Comic" ?

I'm definitely interested.

Andrew NDB 02-27-2020 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AquaParade (Post 1837641)
A Jim Lawson "TMNT Fan-Comic" ?

An oxymoron, really, isn't it?

oldmanwinters 02-27-2020 12:54 PM

I jumped aboard for this incentive!

Ninjinister 02-27-2020 03:18 PM

That's not bad for the price. Going by other Kickstarters I've seen before, I expected something like a $75 or up tier for something like this

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1837647)
An oxymoron, really, isn't it?

What, is Jim not a fan? :lol:

Diorm 02-27-2020 07:52 PM

Yeah he wrote it and this is the first time we heard about such a thing. And what's with the title?
I took the 15$ pledge plus shipping to Canada. Is it enough or I need to take the trade for it to work?

It's weird that I get more excited about that kind of news than everything in the IDW run nowadays. Andrews comics, last ronin, forever War, ending of Volume 3...

Chet 03-01-2020 12:09 AM

If there are more than 300 pledgers, do some people not get the book?

Andrew NDB 03-01-2020 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chet (Post 1837920)
If there are more than 300 pledgers, do some people not get the book?

I'm sure he would print enough to suit.

oldmanwinters 03-01-2020 05:45 PM

Glad to see there is less than $900 to go with the pledge goal! Seems like it really picked up steam after the Fan Comic incentive announcement.

Diorm 03-02-2020 06:23 AM

I kinda feel bad that I decided to pledge only because of the "fan comic" :ohwell:

AquaParade 03-02-2020 11:08 AM

I feel bad that I enjoyed the cheese more than the turkey on my turkey sandwich.

frank_one 03-02-2020 01:18 PM

The Turtles fan comics is totally unrelated to the comics he is trying to get funds for. He knows people care about Turtles so he throws random Turtles stuff in the funding campaign. Probably not the most honest move but I still hope him the best. Now that Mirage is no more it would make my heart break hearing he cannot keep drawing and has to find another job.

oldmanwinters 03-02-2020 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frank_one (Post 1838069)
The Turtles fan comics is totally unrelated to the comics he is trying to get funds for. He knows people care about Turtles so he throws random Turtles stuff in the funding campaign. Probably not the most honest move but I still hope him the best. Now that Mirage is no more it would make my heart break hearing he cannot keep drawing and has to find another job.

How is the move "not honest"? The incentives are clearly spelled out.

Diorm 03-03-2020 01:28 PM

So yeah, we can speculate about this comic too right?
Leo and giant praying mantis.
And "Issue 01". Sooo... more to come?

frank_one 03-03-2020 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1838131)
How is the move "not honest"? The incentives are clearly spelled out.

He's using our passion for Turtles to get funds for something that is not related to Turtles. I'm not saying he's doing something bad but... it isn't totally right either. But, again, I love him and that's ok.

Jeeves 03-19-2020 12:22 PM

Thank you, Andrew, for posting this. I'd have been quite upset to find out about this after it was too late to snag one for myself.

Jeeves 05-06-2020 02:40 AM

Turtles 2030 Discussion & Spoilers
 
Apologies for the double post, but my copy arrived, and I wanted to share some thoughts while it was fresh in my mind.

Spoiler:
I like how we get a little time to go over what each of the turtles are doing, while still balancing it nicely with action sequences. It's so nice to see the turtles rendered by Jim's capable hands.

Casey being a cop threw me for a loop at first, but honestly seems like the ultimate payoff for his entire character arc. He went from a street thug practicing vigilante justice to a police officer upholding actual justice. It's fun to speculate that perhaps he turned himself around by sobering up in response to his lost night with Karai in Vol. 4.

Speaking of volume 4, I'm quite glad Jim seems to have taken the approach of avoiding addressing it's cliff-hangers. While I'd be all for a conclusion helmed by Lawson, I wouldn't feel right about it unless Pete gave his approval and input. What Jim is doing now is great, the fact that Don and Mike are also working with the police definitely implies continuity with the fourth volume without actually explicitly declaring it.

Raph's family gave me hard 90's movie Foot Clan vibes, which is totally awesome. His character seemed spot-on to me: a fiery compassion willing to commit small wrongs without thinking to address what he perceives as bigger wrongs. It's not surprising, but it is nice to see how well Jim understands these characters.

And the best part? That this is only the first part! We already have two interesting plot threads to follow- Shadow's involvement in crime and the conflict this will cause Casey, and the problem of Raph's mutating sewer orphans. I don't know how Jim plans to release future installments, but I'm excited for them to eventually surface.


Love to hear everybody else's thoughts, once more of you get your copies. I got #242, in case anybody is curious.

DrSpengler 05-06-2020 08:16 AM

Got my copies of Box City Wallops and TMNT Fancomic #1 yesterday. The TMNT comic was longer than I expected: 24 pages, so a full-length issue. I was expecting a mini story, so this was a pleasant surprise.

Plot-wise, it goes with a timeskip until an imaginary "shortly after Volume 4" setting. Whatever plot threads left hanging from Volume 4 are evidently resolved with specifics unaddressed since that's Laird's baby and I assume Lawson didn't want to step on any toes. This is a "fancomic" after all, so it's all just a what-if scenario (though I'll take it over nothing in my head canon).

The directions Lawson takes the characters all feel organic and interesting. It reminds me of what he was doing with them in Vol. 2, pulling them apart in different directions that seemed fitting for them at that time in the narrative and their lives. Unfortunately, Vol. 2 got terminated early so we never really got to see how Lawson would have further developed those arcs. This fancomic canon seems like a do-over, albeit skipping ahead in the timeline, and I hope he puts out more of them. I'll back all his campaigns (Box City Wallops was fun, too; don't want to ignore what was the main course of the campaign).

I got #50 out of 300, btw.

Peter Palmer 05-06-2020 12:29 PM

I got mine too. 45/300 here.

Mobius37 05-06-2020 08:50 PM

145/300 for me! Exited to see that this is only part 1 with more to follow!

Wentos 05-08-2020 06:18 AM

Oh God I hope that means I get another shot at Part 1. I totally spaced on this kickstarter and I've been kicking myself ever since.

Ninjinister 05-09-2020 12:05 AM

24/300 for me. I haven't read BCW yet but I actually really enjoyed Turtles 2030.

Diorm 05-11-2020 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wentos (Post 1844760)
Oh God I hope that means I get another shot at Part 1. I totally spaced on this kickstarter and I've been kicking myself ever since.

Well it does say: first printing in the back of the issue. Maybe when he release the second one?
I really like this one. Goes well in my headcanon. I'm 239 by the way. Received it today in Canada.
Looks like the turtles are in there Fifties in this one.

oldmanwinters 05-14-2020 11:01 AM

My package showed up yesterday, and very handsome lot overall; good show to Jim Lawson! My Turtles 2030 comic was #10.

Diorm 05-14-2020 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSpengler (Post 1844588)
Got my copies of Box City Wallops and TMNT Fancomic #1 yesterday. The TMNT comic was longer than I expected: 24 pages, so a full-length issue. I was expecting a mini story, so this was a pleasant surprise.

Plot-wise, it goes with a timeskip until an imaginary "shortly after Volume 4" setting. Whatever plot threads left hanging from Volume 4 are evidently resolved with specifics unaddressed since that's Laird's baby and I assume Lawson didn't want to step on any toes. This is a "fancomic" after all, so it's all just a what-if scenario (though I'll take it over nothing in my head canon).

The directions Lawson takes the characters all feel organic and interesting. It reminds me of what he was doing with them in Vol. 2, pulling them apart in different directions that seemed fitting for them at that time in the narrative and their lives. Unfortunately, Vol. 2 got terminated early so we never really got to see how Lawson would have further developed those arcs. This fancomic canon seems like a do-over, albeit skipping ahead in the timeline, and I hope he puts out more of them. I'll back all his campaigns (Box City Wallops was fun, too; don't want to ignore what was the main course of the campaign).

I got #50 out of 300, btw.

Wont you be making a post about it on your blog?

Chet 05-20-2020 04:38 AM

Got mine a few days ago!

Venom 06-02-2020 02:58 PM

Turtles 2030 Discussion & Spoilers
 
Many of us pitched in to Jim's Kickstarter campaign to nab his unofficial story, Turtles 2030.

I wanted to start a thread allowing us to talk about the story and how it furthers the Volume 4 narrative, albeit unofficially.

...

Diorm 07-10-2020 06:22 AM

I was wondering if we will ever get a sequel to this? It's say vol1 on the cover and the story feels like a beginning to a new story. Will we have to wait for a new kickstarter from Jim for this?
Are people talking to him about this? Did he have any feedbacks? Nobody is really talking about it and it's kinda strange. And sad, because maybe he'll never make any sequel to this with no feedbacks.

funatic 10-19-2020 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diorm (Post 1851725)
I was wondering if we will ever get a sequel to this? It's say vol1 on the cover and the story feels like a beginning to a new story. Will we have to wait for a new kickstarter from Jim for this?
Are people talking to him about this? Did he have any feedbacks? Nobody is really talking about it and it's kinda strange. And sad, because maybe he'll never make any sequel to this with no feedbacks.

I had the pleasure of finally picking up my kickstarter books from Jim in person last week (was holding off to get them at a convention that clearly never came). I asked him about this and you really hit the nail on the head Diorm.

Apparently the 2nd issue (of 3 planned) is finished but not printed. He was hoping to sell them at cons down the line. However, he said he’s received no feedback from anyone on the story so asssumed there wasn’t much interest. If you want this story concluded definitely reach out to Jim (his Facebook is maybe the best bet?) and let him know!! He seems a bit uninspired and maybe this could pep his step. Furthermore this seems like the closest thing to new volume 4 material we may ever get so I’d love to see more, wouldn't you all?

UPDATE: I shared some of the feedback written in this thread with Jim and he was super happy to see it. Says he definitely intends to finish this trilogy now!

Diorm 10-22-2020 12:28 PM

That's great to hear!
Since Andrew said something about the kickstarter leaving Lawson in the red, I was scared he'll ever end this new story.

So it's a trilogy then? Interesting :)

He really has time to answer to people on facebook?

Edit: Is it possible to fuse this thread with this one? https://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sh...ad.php?t=62360

Chris 10-27-2020 03:57 AM

I would totally buy all 3 issues if he sold them on his site. Glad to hear he's still planning on doing them.

Diorm 10-28-2020 06:18 AM

Lawson just replied to me about the feedback I gave him on Messenger. He seemed really greatful and said something about another old character coming back in another issue but wont spoil who it is for me.

KM3K 10-28-2020 11:37 AM

I'd love to buy all three issues. I missed out on the Kickstarter. I sent Jim a message on Facebook asking about if he had any left or if there would be a reprint, but I never heard anything back. If other people here could prod him into a reprint and continuing the storyline, that would be awesome!

Diorm 11-02-2020 11:24 AM

I asked Jim if, when writing the story, he considered everything he worked on like Volume 4 or "Origins" & "Odyssey". Or if it was set in it's own separate universe. Here was his answer:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Lawson
No- I really was trying to pay attention to and keep in mind particularly Pete's work on volume 4. I will say too that I let Arseny have a peek at the story before I published it, and he had me change Donatello to being blind- to keep in continuity with both Odyssey and Mirage universes.

For those that doesnt know, Arseny is Demon-Alukard on the forum.

Andrew NDB 06-16-2023 04:04 PM

So apparently Jim Lawson completed #2 and #3 and is now selling a TPB of all 3 put together right now. You can contact him on his website to order a copy:

https://www.jimlawsonart.com/

Monty Mole 06-16-2023 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1965572)
So apparently Jim Lawson completed #2 and #3 and is now selling a TPB of all 3 put together right now. You can contact him on his website to order a copy:

https://www.jimlawsonart.com/

That's fantastic news! I definitely need to get a copy

Andrew NDB 06-27-2023 12:18 AM

I'm really surprised. Jim Lawson drops 2 brand new full-length issues out of nowhere, following his 2030 #1 he dropped three years ago... and nobody is saying much of anything? This is as close as new Vol. 4 stuff as we've gotten. C'mon, folks.

Topsu 06-27-2023 09:46 AM

I was just wondering about this one day. Cool to hear we can get a book, but it would probably get more buzz if it wasn't hidden like that.


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