Rocky IV The Directors Cut
 

Rocky IV directors cut in development from Syl


https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sy.../1100-6479354/

Read about this a few days ago. I'd never even considered there was a lot of cut footage on the floor.

I would like to see a comparison between the two versions of the film to see what would different. I said it before and I will again,this movie should have wrapped up the franchise.

Aside from the original Rocky, all "home video" releases of the vintage Rocky series (II-V) have been practically bare-bones in regards to special features, despite constant re-releases. I welcome this with open arms!

And FYI, there is a great Ivan Dragon fan game out there if anybody is interested (and if you can find it)!
https://rocky.fandom.com/wiki/Ivan_D...stice_Enforcer

I would play that! If you do find a link please PM it to me!

Stallone hates Paulie's Robot and is gonna remove that in the Directors cut

https://twitter.com/murderwizard/sta...60957436563457

I'll miss you Happy Birthday, Paulie Robot... :(
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Can we remove Apollo's death too? That is the death of the franchise. Apollo being beaten near death and coming back year later could have been a spinoff.

I am indifferent about Paulie's lady friend robot. Why put it in if he hates it? Comedic relief?

Of course not than it basically negates the Creed Movies which are fantastic 1 more so than 2.

Rocky 5 was technically the death of the franchise until Rocky Balboa and Creed saved it.

I LOVE the first four. Then it's like a dead franchise walking. Removing Adrian and romancing the one time preteen he told not to smoke to see if he still had it and not much a nemesis in Mason Dixon then Creed creates an illegitimate child for Apollo that does not make sense for his character and was too old to enter boxing at age 30. The soundtrack is my jam. Then with 5 it takes on a hip hop favoritism from the hybrid of pop rock and instrumental. If others like them it's fine. Its just not for me.

Why would they remove Apollo's death? That's like the dumbest suggestion I heard in a long time. That's the whole point of the movie. :lol:

Yeah it was Rocky 5 that was the downer for the series, not Creed's death. In fact, I was in shock when Creed died in theaters. I could not believe they did that lol. That took some guts.

Yeah, M&R, there's really nothing I can say about that suggestion without being too much of a heel. :lol: Other than I think you're kinda sensitive to let stuff like that bother you so much, broski.

As for the newer films, I don't much care for "hip hop flavor" myself generally speaking but it's authentic to boxing as a sport and the "aura" surrounding it so I have no problem with it. It's a "black sport", in that most of the athletes who dominate and thus most of the people who watch it, happen to be black. Thus, movies which represent the sport are going to have that kind of "flavor" and that's perfectly fine, it's merely being authentic which is something I always enjoy. Even if something isn't my taste I will always applaud for authentic representation that isn't pandering and is merely, as the kids say, "Keeping it real". I actually enjoyed it quite a bit in the recent films because in no way did it take away from the story. It DID however add greatly to the immersion. Dare I say, the "verisimilitude". :tgrin:

The older films were authentic to boxing in the 1980s, the newer ones absolutely should reflect the modern style and aesthetic of the sport. I really, REALLY like how they use the actual cameras and on-air personalities from the various boxing shows on TV to give the films that realistic feeling. They're so good with that kinda sh*t. Doesn't matter that I don't actually watch boxing or listen to a lot of hip-hop; they're "keeping it real" and I'm always all about that.

Beyond that, "Rocky Balboa" and "Creed" are definitely among the absolute best movies in the entire franchise. Tons of heart and some of the best actual boxing in the entire series. Seriously, I adore I and II but the actual fight scenes were sh*t in how you can see them whiff on punches by over a foot sometimes. The fights in the newest films are WAY better.

I mean, people can do what they want, but as someone who originally thought before seeing them that neither "Rocky Balboa" nor "Creed" necessarily needed to be made, I can openly admit that my original feelings were misguided and they're secretly two of the best in the entire series, bar-none. I mean, I full-on rolled my eyes when they announced "Creed". But it's great! And y'all know how hard it can be to win me over sometimes. :lol: But when I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and I actually like being wrong when it means I get to be given gifts such as "Creed". Right up there with "Cobra Kai" in 'Gifts I never asked for but am damn happy I got."

Anyways, as someone who absolutely bleeds "Rocky", I genuinely feel a sense of deep sadness and sorrow for anyone who can't appreciate the series' newer entries for myopic and trivial reasons. They're missing out on some of the best sh*t they ever did! Don't do that to yourself, kids. The entire story was always about "Taking life's hits and getting back up," and "Balboa" and "Creed" do a MUCH better job of making that point than pretty much any of them after the third one. And they do a much better job of creating REAL emotion within the viewer than any of them after the second one.

"It's such good sh*t, pal." :trazz:
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I love Rocky IV, but every single criticism about how "It's not a movie, it's a music video about Rocky" is bang-on. So I'm open to seeing a new version.

But c'moooon, no "Happy Birthday Paulie" robot? Y'ALL DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOOD, SLY! :lol:

I guess I'll get over it. I GUESS. :tgrumble:

Good, get rid of the robot. I don't care if it has its fans, it is easily the most ridiculous part of the whole franchise.

So many montages. There's like 3 or 4 montages in it. Jeeze... I'm not sure I'd want to see any of them removed. Maybe the one where he gets in his car and starts driving around fast remembering Apollo... that was kind of silly. If there was any somber scenes filmed with Rocky grieving Apollo, I'd use that instead.

No, no... you can't lose "No Easy Way Out"! That's just plain blasphemy.

Frankly, as it's by far the shortest film in the series, I'm looking for Additions, not Cuts. It's barely an hour and a half to begin with, isn't it? Jokes aside I've never been too mad about what's already IN the movie, but it doesn't have a ton of meat on its bones and I'd like to see some things fleshed out a bit more, if anything. I'd rather see them dig some stuff up from the cutting room floor before they start going crazy with the scissors.

I was gonna say, if they start cutting out a ton of stuff this is going to be what....a 50-60 minute movie? Unless they have tons of old cut footage from the 80's they're adding into this...this is going to be a very short film.

They could add about 20 minutes of Brigitte Nielson taking slow, seductive drags off a cigarette and I'd be alright with that.

She was pretty hot back then before she melted like a wax candle.

The whole franchise is ridiculous, especially IV, only the original works as a serious movie and this is from someone who likes the whole franchise. And the robot is awesome.

Haha I was disturbed at her first scene in Creed 2... Like what is that? But credit to her for making a cameo, despite the awkwardness of working with her ex.

Now that's just going too far!

They are basically superhero movies. That's really what they are.

Though Balboa and Creed 1 and 2 were fun movies, I love the 80's movies even more with Rocky 1 and III being my favorite of the series. Sly may regret how the boxing was "Film" in these movies, but for the 80's it did match the type of boxing one can find when 2 action punch punchers go out it as Clubber Rocky I and 2 were like Hagler Hearns, or did the Rocky Creed Fights have some Ali Fraizier drama in em? Boxers for the most part in the 80's took more risk than they would too day. Mayweather for the most part would box 12 boring rounds to a victory.

As for it being a "black" sport, there sure seems to be a lot of Russians ruling the sport today.

If he dies, he dies.

Haha, I think that was after she bought herself a whole new head a couple years ago. :lol: She made a whole big thing about it.

And if she had a problem with working with guys who've had their dicks in her, she'd pretty much have to avoid most of the people who worked in Hollywood in the 80s as it is. :lol::trazz:

Well today 4 main races rule the sport, the Russians and blacks in the heavier divisions, and the Latinos and Asians in the lower weight divisions for the most part. I mean yeah you get the odd balls like Tyson Fury being white and from England being the Heavyweight king today, but still.

She's a good egg. She even rushed to Stallone's support and defense publicly when that lady was trying to #metoo him a couple of years ago.

That's cool. Also, I heard she was pregnant when she filmed her Creed II scenes, so that's another feather in her cap, professionally speaking.

Yeah, that really seems to bug him. Rocky 4 was the last "film boxing" movie of the whole franchise... ever since then it's made to look like you're watching ESPN, all of the opponents have been real boxers since then (i.e., not actors) and the fights have not been as fun. I wish they'd get nice, memorable actors for the fighters again.

Like, imagine if they'd just gone with real boxers for Apollo, Clubber Lang, or Drago. They probably wouldn't even make it to Drago.

I really wish the series hadn't moved away from "over-the-top" slugfests between exaggerated opponents. It's funny when you think about the fact Stallone hired Weathers for the part of Apollo based on a lie that he had boxing experience. In retrospect, it was a good thing Apollo was played by Weathers the actor as opposed to Weathers the boxer. You're right the series never would have made it to Drago without him.

Like I said, the Rocky flicks were 80's superhero movies.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKvib4nXRWI
LOLZ at Weathers' idea for a Creed-Drago Love Film

That is why I liked it. When it moved into real-life boxers and the soundtrack from pop rock and instrumental to full on hip hop with no replay ability (at least for me) and keep killing off characters it just was not my kind of film. I like the artistic masterpiece as he faced the likeable showman Apollo and then the action films of Rocky's trials on top against Lang and Drago. After that it just seemed like everything had been accomplished and I know there is an audience beyond 4 especially for Balboa, but aside from that speech to Robert its just not for me. Its okay, but nothing I personally would watch and rewatch and go on about. I guess its like me watching Hulk Hogan and then turn around watching a real wrestling match. Which one do you think I would be invested in opposed to turning the channel?

They may of not been real boxers, but they were school for there roles. Hell one of the all time greats in Robert Duran was on set for Rocky III for the fight scenes, Boxing for Rocky 1, 2, 3 and 4 match what one would see style wise in that era. Watch any action pact fight from the 70's-80's and you see that they got it right on what would happen(Outside of land punching's not landed and heads flop back). They just took a bit more risk back than as I said. No risk no glory was what they believe in. Watch Hagler Hearns or Ali Frazier, or Foreman Lyle.

Movie will be retitled "Rocky vs. Drago." Also, it's all done now.

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Huh. I really wonder if Stallone can elevate Rocky IV from "guilty pleasure" to something that might sit believably next to "the serious ones."

This is one directors cut I can't wait to watch

I wonder if the "epilogue" seen at the beginning of Rocky V will be worked into this cut.

Is this movie going to be like 50 minutes long? Considering Rocky IV was already a short movie and they're editing it further down than that, I can't imagine the length of this.

There is absolutely on reason to believe it is being "edited down" beyond the removal of Paulie's robot.

You could puff it out if you wanted to.

Maybe they used some CGI deepfake razzle-dazzle to add in a scene of Apollo going to f*ck some bimbo the night before the big fight. :lol: And then at the funeral scene show some shadowy lady standing in the corner looking mysterious and sad. And then add a post credits-scene of the lady giving birth to a baby boy while dramatic music plays.

Re-title it "Rocky v. Drago: Dawn of Creed". :lol: Jesus, people really ought'a be paying me for this sh*t.

Man, I don't know if Hollywood could possibly pass on that level of cross-promotion.