TMNT Urban Legends #25 Preview and Discussion
 

First look. MEGA-SPOILER!

Well...that makes me feel better about the last issue.

Okay, that's less stupid.

Wow. Okay. If that's what we're doing, then all aboard. :tlol:

Looks great. I have to say, I'd welcome this series as an on-going, whereas I am hanging on to the current IDW on-going by a thread.

I know, right? Same.

I have no idea what's going on here :lol:

I mean, for those of you who didn't like the armor twist, I don't really see how this makes it less stupid. Revealing that the host body is Karai's daughter doesn't really change the last issue's reveal. It's still the AI. Karai's daughter has no will of her own and is basically dead. Lady Shredder is still ultimately the AI. They just happen to look like Karai's daugher now.

You're actually right, and it did not change my opinion.

But I'll still take any Image TMNT stories over any IDW TMNT stories, any damn day of the week. Image TMNT is what got me back into TMNT in high school. That $hit is my jam; terrible Pimiko outfit, undesired Image crossovers, and weird AI Lady Shredder ain't gonna change that for me. :tgrin:

Oh, totally. I'm having a wonderful time. Though ultimately, I think the chips are falling in favor of the Modeen conclusion for me.

Me, too. Time will tell.

After all, Andrew didn't include the Warlord Komodo, who I'm delighted to see again.

Two very different stories. Enjoyed one immensely, and enjoying the other one just as much. :tgrin:

Apparrently I am cleared to say this... but I've been assisting Gary on this the whole time. Given many notes and he's been receptive on pretty much every one the entire time.

This is gonna be pretty cool, folks. And there's even a small injection of what Arseniy and I did into things. In a few ways. And one big way, to come.

Is that an IDW thing or a continuation of the Image series?

I just realised that naming Karai's daughter Amai instead of Umai was a mistake.

That's awesome!

It is really neat seeing two extremely different takes on how TMNT Volume 3 concludes. I'm enjoying this a lot, and hope it bodes well for future mature TMNT projects.

Explain it to the rest of us...?

Karai means spicy, Umai means tasty. Amai is very close but not quite right.

Oh, I just mean the remaining 2 issues.

Well.. even "Saki" isn't a "correct" Japanese name. And we've been living with that for 40 years almost.

Umai wouldn't be a real name either, it would just be funny.

You don't think that "armor doing the thing the armor has been doing since the beginning" is less stupid than "armor suddenly is its own entity now"?

Amai means sweet, so it still tracks. But I'm still not even convinced the "spicy" Karai would be the legitimate origin of her name in-universe, or even out, unless P&L have said something.

Like almost all Japanese, Karai can be read or meant in different ways.

辛い - harsh temperment
鹹い - spicy
渦雷: Tropical cyclone
花蕾: Flower bud (you know, like blossoming)

No, not really. It's not really all that sudden. The armor has been it's own entity since issue 12 or 13, and even before that they were building up that it could become it's own thing. Besides, all the other people it was joined with were still there. Karai's daughter is a non-character, and her being here has no impact on anything in the story. If you swapped her out for anyone else nothing would change. If the AI hadn't been involved, the only real options for a reveal would be Karai or Tang Amaya, who kind of doesn't exist to begin with. Anyone else would have to have come out of nowhere and thus wouldn't serve the purpose of a dramatic reveal.

Full preview.

That is really cool to hear. You gave him the respect of seeking his input when creating your conclusion, and now he's giving you the respect of seeking your input for his conclusion. I already had respect for the man, and this just adds to it. I'm still going to reserve judgement over which conclusion is the better until I can read all of this one.

Is that Eastman cover gonna be what happens to the doc? :o

So did nobody read this issue? Its been out since Jul 23rd, surprised not to see this bumped with any reviews.

Leo's hand reminded me of what you did in your Image conclusion, so I can see the connection.

Great issue overall, I can see things are heading back to a clean slate with Mirage continuity, and I'm glad we see all the big villains together (Warlord Komodo, Lady Shredder, the Komodo dragon mutant, and Cheng), all for the finale.

I suspect they'll be a lot of deaths in the next issue since we don't see any of these characters show up in Mirage, so I'm interested to see how it goes. Only character MIA is Leatherhead, but I guess it's not too big a deal knowing what he goes through in Tales V. 2 and in Volume 4.

I read it, but it just felt... anticlimactic? About the only thing that felt surprising was Cheng and Splinter.

It wasn't bad. I just think it was kind of the necessary bridge between #24's "Hey, here we go! Let's get $hit going!" and #26's "balls to the walls conclusion."

Also, it seems safe to assume that Leatherhead and the Triceratons aren't gonna feature. Which is okay.

Weren't all the Triceratons dead? Leatherhead was probably just transported somewhere else on Earth.

I don't think so. But it's been awhile since I read the original 23 issues.

There was also the gangsters thinking about getting Shadow back again, but that stuff can just be overlooked.

I'm curious though how they handle the villains since as we know, they don't appear in Vol. 4. Next issue might be a massacre or bloodbath. King Komodo, Chen, Lady Shredder and the Komodo Dragon mutant might all die.

I'm not sure where Dr. X will go, I guess zoom off to find Leatherhead so he can teleport back to the Utroms.

Heck, there's no reason Issue #26 has to wrap everything up in a neat little bow. It could even serve as the launching point to a new parallel, unrelated ongoing continuing on from Issue #26. Volume 3.5, as it were.

Now, it probably WON'T. But it COULD.