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Diorm 08-18-2020 07:51 AM

Upcomming "WB Games Montr?al" Batman game
 

So yeah there's a new Arkham game that is being teased for over a year now. The first official tease was at last year's Batman Day. Now, with the upcomming DC Fandome, there was a new tease yesterday in a short video:

https://twitter.com/WBGamesMTL/statu...432407553?s=20

There was a code in the teaser that gives an IP adress that leads to this website https://r3dakt3d.com/ there is a countdown to some other tease. Supposedly, there will be something new everyday leading up to the official trailer release. It may be this Friday wich is a day before the DC Fandome.

Edit:
Day 1: The code gives us a map: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfovP4VW...pg&name=medium
Day 2: A puzzle to solve that gives another piece of the same map. The two combined gives: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Efyr0ToU...name=4096x4096
Day 3: A picture where you needed to find roman numbers that gives the new piece of map. Combined together the map looks like this now: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ef34_RTW...name=4096x4096
Day 4: Password gives a cryptic video...https://www.youtube.com/watch<br /> ...ture=emb_title

TigerClaw 08-18-2020 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Diorm (Post 1857946)
https://cdn1-www.playstationlifestyl...s-montreal.jpg
So yeah there's a new Arkham game that is being teased for over a year now. The first official tease was at last year's Batman Day. Now, with the upcomming DC Fandome, there was a new tease yesterday in a short video:

https://twitter.com/WBGamesMTL/statu...432407553?s=20

There was a code in the teaser that gives an IP adress that leads to this website https://r3dakt3d.com/ there is a countdown to some other tease. Supposedly, there will be something new everyday leading up to the official trailer release. It may be this Friday wich is a day before the DC Fandome.

Edit:
First day. the code gives us a map: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfovP4VW...pg&name=medium

I heard the new game will feaature the Court of Owls story from the comics.

Diorm 08-19-2020 10:19 AM

It's almost confirmed at the point.

Day 2: A puzzle to solve that gives another piece of the same map. The two combined gives: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Efyr0ToU...name=4096x4096

AquaParade 08-19-2020 10:30 AM

I am completely over marketing campaigns like this. These companies drag these announcements out over months, riding on the hardcore fans to talk it up and spread the word, without actually giving them anything substantial to whet the appetite. It was bad enough having a game announced with CG trailer that gives you no indication of how it will actually play, but these nothing-twitter posts that go one for months are even worse.

Diorm 08-19-2020 10:50 AM

I like those reveal. I mean, they can just give the trailer this friday and thats it. But you have something leading us to it which makes people talking about it. It was really fun when they did that for the Portal 2 reveal. In the end, we get a trailer. You can just ignore it and it would be the same.

AquaParade 08-19-2020 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Diorm (Post 1858105)
I like those reveal. I mean, they can just give the trailer this friday and thats it. But you have something leading us to it which makes people talking about it. It was really fun when they did that for the Portal 2 reveal. In the end, we get a trailer. You can just ignore it and it would be the same.

Sure, "ignore it" is pretty much a shutdown for any complaint, but when discussing the way a studio markets a game, I find this really lame. Especially because they first teased the Court of Owls angle back in September of 2019. It's ridiculous to still be playing twitter games a year later. Show us something. The reason it frustrates me is because these viral campaigns are designed to put in as little effort as possible while the fans get excited and do the marketing for you, but they are essentially giving us nothing to get excited about in return. Clearly it is working for you, so more power to you.

Leo656 08-19-2020 11:31 AM

I often feel the same way. I've spoken of it in the past, generally with movies and most prominently with things like the first Ghostbusters teaser I think.

It's not that I'm immune to getting excited for things, I'm more just the "I'll get excited when I see something worth being excited about" type. Fact is, I often get a little TOO excited for things! Just, y'know selectively.

Anyways, yeah, another Batman game. "Whoooo."

Diorm 08-19-2020 01:57 PM

You don't like Batman games? It's been five years since the last one. And they are already doing something else with the Suicide Squad game. And there is talks about a new Injustice game.

And it as been revealed that if you combine the 4 codes 761-941-364-995 (364 and 995 are the codes for tommorrow and Friday) It gives you de barcode of one particular comic book:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20060518142628
So maybe it might be a Batgirl game? Or she's a playable character?

Leo656 08-19-2020 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Diorm (Post 1858129)
You don't like Batman games? It's been five years since the last one. And they are already doing something else with the Suicide Squad game. And there is talks about a new Injustice game.

And it as been revealed that if you combine the 4 codes 761-941-364-995 (364 and 995 are the codes for tommorrow and Friday) It gives you de barcode of one particular comic book:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20060518142628
So maybe it might be a Batgirl game? Or she's a playable character?

Not "bad", just... eh. I like the Arkham games just fine, quite a lot in fact, it's simply already been done to death. Squad's got a movie coming out, but otherwise they're not generally a property people flip over, so the fact they're getting a game sounds like a WB mandate for synergy more than anything. I can't imagine a ton of people ASKING for that, more like WB said "This is the property we want you to care about, so Here." It's just, the first non-Batman, non-Injustice game they've done in almost two decades... and it's the Suicide Squad? C'mon. ZERO chance that would be the next project if there wasn't a movie on the way. So even if it ends up being good - and I do hope that it is - they're still doing it for the entirely wrong reasons.

15 years since we had a game with "Superman" in the title. Wonder Woman's had zero. Aquaman had one game forever ago and it was lousy. All Flash has to his name is a couple crummy handheld games and, I think, a mediocre Master System game. Green Lantern had two generally good games (the PS3/Xbox 360 and Wii versions of the game are so different despite being released at the same time that they really need to be considered totally separate games), but no follow-up. And so on.

Another Batman game will undoubtedly be good, so I don't have any concerns in that vein. It's just that More Of The Same doesn't thrill me when there's so much they COULD be doing. I know that it's "The Business" but still, it's annoying. And WB's complete over-reliance and slavish devotion to Batman across ALL media at the expense of the rest of their stable is really getting under my skin at this point, despite being a huge fan.

Can't say it shocks me even a little, it's just... eh.
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I did hear some strong rumors recently about Batgirl being a playable character, so I think it's safe to go ahead and call that Confirmed.

Diorm 08-19-2020 02:18 PM

From all the superheroes that you named, I only see Wonder Woman to be feasible.

How can you make a game about a guy that can fly everywere and destroy everything, a guy that can run fast around the world, a guy that can swim in 70% of Earth water or a guy that goes in space making green... everything.

You would have to make the entire earth an open world with space and oceans.

Batman is easier to make because he's more human and limited in where he can go. You cant give invisible walls to superman or the Flash. Or make them say something stupid like: "I don't have any business in that direction so, I'm not going there".

So yeah. Wonder Woman. Maybe the version that can't fly would be the best.

AquaParade 08-19-2020 02:22 PM

Let me play as Batgirl with a Bat-cycle and I'll forgive your crappy marketing campaign.

Sumac 08-19-2020 02:31 PM

From Arkham series I liked Asylum the most. Best setting, best story, best fighting system.

City felt bloated and story was crap, Origins had the best gameplay and story, but city looked like crap and Knight was a bloated mess with too much focus on a batmobile and nonsensical storyline.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 08-19-2020 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1858137)
From Arkham series I liked Asylum the most. Best setting, best story, best fighting system.

City felt bloated and story was crap, Origins had the best gameplay and story, but city looked like crap and Knight was a bloated mess with too much focus on a batmobile and nonsensical storyline.

I didn't even finish Knight. Way too much focus on the Bat-tank.

Diorm 08-20-2020 11:01 AM

I'm in the rare case where Origin is my favorite of the bunch. I really liked the story, the boss battles and the detective work (I want more of that).

Today was a picture where you needed to find roman numbers that gives the new piece of map. Combined together the map looks like this now: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ef34_RTW...name=4096x4096

AquaParade 08-20-2020 11:08 AM

Origin did some things better than the others, such as character design, story, boss fights, and even the city itself had taller buildings and a bigger scale than the first two, if I remember correctly. At the same time, it felt less polished to me. The intro just sort of threw you in without any of the fun build-up you get in the Rocksteady games and that lack of care was felt throughout the rest of the game.

My favorite is Arkham Knight, despite the overuse of the Batmobile, which was definitely a problem. Everything else worked really well for me though. Sure, Joker was overused at this point, but it was another good performance. The graphics and atmosphere come together incredibly, and calling upon the Batmobile at your own leisure, as it speeds around the corner to meet you is still one of the coolest feelings in videogames.

Turo602 08-20-2020 09:44 PM

My only issues with the Batmobile was that they forcefully incorporated it into every boss fight and that they turned it into a tank just to squeeze more playtime out of it.

The tank combat itself is mechanically sound and a decent diversion from the regular flow, but it's still out of place for Batman and therefore, doesn't need to be there. Other than that, and maybe even the Arkham Knight reveal, everything else was top notch, including the Batmobile itself.

The combat, stealth, graphics, scope, and storytelling was already so much better than the previous games, but the inclusion of the Batmobile really completed the package. It wasn't just satisfying to control and drive around in, but its implementation was phenomenal because it was more than just a vehicle to use for traversal, but an extension of Batman's arsenal.

shredder orokusaki 08-21-2020 07:02 AM

Cant wait for Batmana nd Suicide squad games epsecialy the suice squad game! The perfeft game for me. This and Destroy all humans! that i finished weeks ago are made for me and other crime lords like me!

Diorm 08-21-2020 10:13 AM

Day 4.
Password gives a cryptic video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ture=emb_title

Yeah so tomorrow the real trailer.

shredder orokusaki 08-21-2020 03:15 PM

Let see if the rumors about it being a Batwoman or Batgirl are true or if it will be another game with Batman. About Batwoman... The tv series started on November and i have watched all 20 episdoes so far. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batwoman_(TV_series) It is way more violent than any Batman cartoon and video game and also has some realy instresting story and new characters . I recomend you to watch the series if you havent already. I didnt know anything about her until the series got announced 1 year ago and then it started on November but it is very good!

AquaParade 08-21-2020 09:03 PM

I'd really like to see the stealth mechanics evolved. Rocksteady did a great job but then sort of rested on it after that.
Metal Gear Solid is probably too high a standard, but The Last of Us pt 2 was able to implement some really great stealth mechanics and I'd like to see the same done here.

Shark_Blade 08-21-2020 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1858137)
From Arkham series I liked Asylum the most. Best setting, best story, best fighting system.

City felt bloated and story was crap, Origins had the best gameplay and story, but city looked like crap and Knight was a bloated mess with too much focus on a batmobile and nonsensical storyline.

Same. Even though it?s smaller/contained on an island, it was very interesting. Asylum >>>

AquaParade 08-22-2020 12:38 PM

Trailer didnt excite me. No playable Batman is a bold move, but I'd only be interested in that if I can eventually take on the mantle.

Other then that, the game looks less atmospheric than the Arkham games and more arcade-like. This doesn't look great to me. Excitement deflating.

And they even have Batgirl with a Bat-cycle. I'll stay open-minded as my expectations may be getting in the way, but it's safe to say this isn't what I hoped to see.

Diorm 08-22-2020 12:59 PM



I'll try to find a video of the gameplay that was showed.
Looks like drop in drop out coop online.

Diorm 08-22-2020 02:01 PM



Gameplay

Andrew NDB 08-22-2020 02:54 PM

Yeah... eh. Doesn't seem very focused. Also, not sure about a new Batman game where you can't play as Batman.

Turo602 08-22-2020 04:24 PM

The Batman Arkham games have been some of my most favorite video games in recent times, and as much as I wanted and was looking forward to more of that gameplay and formula, whether it was in the Arkham universe or not, I'm okay with this too. I love the Bat-Family and as long as no one is filling in for Batman like rumors suggested, then I'm cool with it. As someone who has wanted more co-op games this generation, I'm definitely gonna have lots of fun with this.

LeotheLateBloomer 08-23-2020 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 1858585)
The Batman Arkham games have been some of my most favorite video games in recent times, and as much as I wanted and was looking forward to more of that gameplay and formula, whether it was in the Arkham universe or not, I'm okay with this too. I love the Bat-Family and as long as no one is filling in for Batman like rumors suggested, then I'm cool with it. As someone who has wanted more co-op games this generation, I'm definitely gonna have lots of fun with this.

Aside from wanting more co-op games, pretty much this. It's refreshing to get a game that isn't Batman centered, though I'm not convinced we won't play as him at some point and calling it right now that Bruce fakes his death to investigate the Court of Owls. It looks like it incorporates some gameplay elements of the Arkham games though it seems like it's more focused on combat than stealth which somewhat worries me the latter will get little focus. Also wasn't impressed with what little we saw of the Mr. Freeze fight. Especially compared to both his fights from City and Origins and imo, the latter which was developed by this studio had the best boss fights.

Sumac 08-23-2020 09:05 AM

It doesn't look bad, but I'd prefer if it had a weightier combat.

Shark_Blade 08-23-2020 09:17 AM

I feel like Batman is going to be playable once you completed all the characters stories.

Kinda like how they did Ada Wong in Resident Evil 6 as a secret unlockable character complete with her own story.

So probably it’ll explain why Batman did it if they go that route.

AquaParade 08-23-2020 10:09 AM

I want a Batman game with the best controls and animation possible. Something like Metal Gear Solid 5 or The Last of Us 2.
I love how in control you feel when playing those games and how dynamic the encounters can be with all the options at your disposal.
When you feel that level of control, you feel like you are in the shoes of the character, and that is exactly what we want from a Batman game.
Rocksteady was certainly on this path, but I feel like they begun to rest on their laurels when it came to stealth and combat mechanics when they could have chosen to innovate more.

sdp 08-23-2020 12:22 PM

We've had plenty of Batman games, I'm glad to be able to get a game of the bat family, I've wanted one forever since the last few B:TAS games we got on the PS2 era. And yes I'm sure Batman will be unlockable for those who can't live without him for one game.

Sumac 08-23-2020 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade (Post 1858818)
Rocksteady was certainly on this path, but I feel like they begun to rest on their laurels when it came to stealth and combat mechanics when they could have chosen to innovate more.

IMO, Rocksteady stopped adding new things to the gameplay after Asylum. In City they made a world bigger. Batmobile in AK felt like a crutch, since they couldn't figure out how to update combat.

Origins tried to add some new ideas, in particular adding new enemies and good boss battles, but the game felt a bit behind in other aspects.

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1858832)
I've wanted one forever since the last few B:TAS games we got on the PS2 era.

Are you talking about Batman: Vengeance? I've played this game back in 2005. It was mediocre, IMO, in particular when it comes to a camera.

sdp 08-23-2020 02:52 PM

Rise of Sin Tzu, it wasn't particularly amazing but it gave bat family action so as far as a PS2 era licensed title it was alright.

Leo656 08-23-2020 06:53 PM

Sweet Lord, MGSV is one of the best-playing games I've ever had my hands on. I lost count of how many times I replayed entire huge sections I'd already beaten just because they were so much fun to play. People can rip that game off all they like, I won't complain. :lol:

Yeah, I bet they'll have a playable Batman as some kind of unlockable, or worst-case an entire DLC "campaign". SOMEthing. There's no way they do a Batman-related game without letting you play as Batman at some point.

Vengeance was okay. Definitely some camera and control issues, but it was arguably the best Batman game we'd had by then, although that wasn't saying much. I never played Sin Tzu, I heard it was really bad so I didn't bother with it.

Sumac 08-24-2020 12:01 AM

Never played Rise of Sin Tzu. I've heard it was worse than Vengeance, so didn't bother.

Andrew NDB 08-24-2020 01:07 AM

So the new Suicide Squad game is in the Arkham game universe... but Deadshot is black and is Floyd Lawton?

https://cosmicbook.news/suicide-squa...1qTa1fJgygqu18

shredder orokusaki 08-24-2020 04:10 AM

The story about Batman dissapernace is the same as the new Batwoman tv series that started on November. Only this time instead of Batwoman it is Batgirl Robin e.t.c. who became the heroes of Gotham. Gameplay looks the same as the other Arkham games except the rpg elements but iam sure it will be a great game and we will enjoy it a lot! And if you havent watched Batwoman yes then i recomend you to start watching it. 20 episodes have aired until now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batwoman_(TV_series) and i have watched all of them. It is more violent and than any of the Batman series and also it has many new characters that diddnt appear on the Batman series and comics.

Andrew NDB 08-24-2020 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki (Post 1858936)
And if you havent watched Batwoman yes then i recomend you to start watching it.

Oh, hell no.

Leo656 08-24-2020 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1858946)
Oh, hell no.

I know, right? It's like the second time he said that. :lol: I'm like "Are we just gonna allow this, or is someone gonna regulate?"

I mean, I can't ALWAYS be The Guy. Thanks for steppin' up. :trazz:

Andrew NDB 08-24-2020 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1858947)
I know, right? It's like the second time he said that. :lol: I'm like "Are we just gonna allow this, or is someone gonna regulate?"

I mean, I can't ALWAYS be The Guy. Thanks for steppin' up. :trazz:

It's not even something that's watchable. If Supergirl on the CW is like the beta of what the Berlanti crew always wanted to see, with all the other shows taking a beating on the brow to 25% measure up... Batwoman is, again, the magnum opus and always has been. Pass.


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