The Suicide Squad
 

Huh. This is gonna be weird.

Peter Capaldi as The Thinker is gonna be awesome.

Odd that they want to market it like the Birds of Prey movie.

Mongal before we've even had Mongul show up. :lol: Oh, WB. You can't do anything right.

Pete Davidson AND John Cena? Ugh. I might not see this.

John Cene plays a character from the comics called Peacemaker. He's described as a douchey Captain America.

This looks super fun. Don't go into it attempting to relate to or even like these characters. That's probably not the point. Or if it is, they'll prob win you over, cause Gunn is pretty good at this stuff.

I'm not sure about this movie, but such a large cast does seem to line up with this being the DC equivalent of "Dirty Dozen."

And I am totally down for seeing 9 or 10 of these guys bite the dust. A REAL Suicide Squad.

Could be good.

Of course I’m excited for this.

With a group of losers like THAT I'd be amazed if anyone BUT Harley made it to the closing credits, frankly. :lol: I mean, we know she's not gonna kick off because she has 80 more movies coming out. But f*cking Polka-Dot man? Good grief!

And again, can't wait to hear why we have a Mongal when neither Mongul or WarWorld have ever even been whispered of in this continuity whatsoever. I'm sure it'll be a completely satisfying explanation that makes a ton of logical sense, and will in NO way be anything like "We needed another chick, just pulled a name out of a hat". :trazz: No WAY that THAT'S what happened, there.

Like, why not more Katana? We could have used WAY more Katana than what we had, and she's established. I would've been all over that. Eh.

We'll see. I kinda think it looks like piss but I like the idea of the Squad and I like that they're willing to give them another chance at a movie. Just not seeing much to get excited about.

Normally the aesthetic and tone would potentially turn me off. And I don't actually care for the Guardians films all that much, though I recognize their quality.

But what excites me about this film has everything to do with the production. The fact that James Gunn took the job while everyone was *gunning* for him (it has begun) indicates he was able to maintain a ton of creative control. They're letting him go R, he seems excited, the characters and actors are expendable.
It's just got the right kind of quality ingredients you want in a product of this magnitude. It's a clear labor of love and creativity.

I'm not excited for much about this film either, though I am really interested in seeing Capaldi and Elba in it. I love both of those actors.

And I'm also excited to see most of these losers die a horrible death. I mean, it's supposed to be a SUICIDE SQUAD. (Apparently, nobody told David Ayer.)

And yeah, Harley survives, Waller survives, and maybe Idris Elba and/or Rick Flag. Maybe King Shark?

Is it actually going to be R-rated? I know it was discussed a lot in theory...

Oh, yeah, I almost forgot, I actually popped for Bloodsport. Deep cuts!

One would hope that he survives, just because we haven't seen him fight Superman yet and that's his whole entire gimmick. Of course, we've seen how much THAT kinda thing matters in these movies... like when Black Mask and Zsasz get killed off in their first appearances by a bunch of characters they generally never interact with at all. :tgrumble:

But yeah, Bloodsport got a reaction out of me. Which was then replaced by a reaction of "UGH!" that inevitably follows whenever I see John f*cking Cena's face. :lol:

But yeah they had me for like, a second. :trazz:

Actually maybe R isn't confirmed. My b.

I wonder who'll be the one that dies in the beginning. I'm sure it happened in the comic, but the animated movies and the first movie did the thing where after everything is explained, including the bomb in their neck, one of them is still like 'hell naw, I'm outta here' and gets their head blown off to prove a point. Wonder who it will be for this one.

My money is on Pete Davidson.

We can only hope. :lol:

Couldn't possibly be Cena. Nobody out there loves me THAT much.

Huh... Not sure what to make of it, but I'll watch. I loved the first one, but Birds of Prey was ridiculously bad, so it's a 50/50 kinda thing. Some very interesting casting choices there, half amazing, half head-scratchy. Same for the character designs, really. Gunn's done a great job with GOTG, I'm intrigued.

Note that I am not a DC guy & don't read these comics & know nothing of the characters. It'll just be a movie to me, same as the others.

I just hope they kinda, explain stuff. Like did the first movie still happen, did Birds of Prey still happen, even though I think that one acts like SS did happen. IDK, woulda been less confusing if they left out Harley or re-cast her, which I know they would never do since she's too popular, but casting her here and technically saying this is a different Harley is like if they casted Leto in Joker and insisted it wasn't the same one from SS.

I'm betting it'll be just like how Birds of Prey treated the original Suicide Squad movie: mostly ignore it except for one or two small nods. As far as I remember, the only outright reference in BoP was when they found the "Daddy's Lil Monster" shirt in the funhouse.

I am so ****ing tired of those semi-reboots.
Just call movie Suicide Squad 2 or Suicide Squad: Quirky Subtitle.

With Rick Flagg, Boomerang, Waller and Harley all being in it, and played by the same actors, it's pretty clear that it'll treat the first Squad movie as a case of "It happened, but it's in the past and we're really not gonna dwell on it."

It's a way to go, I guess. I just hate how many Big Plot Points and character development moments have to take place off-camera between movies just because the new director(s) don't want to touch what the old ones did. Happens everywhere nowadays. Don't these people talk to each other?

I know it's just "connective tissue", but it's important. Like, after all they showed of Harley/Joker and their "relationship" in the first movie, BoP picks it up all casual like "Oh, yeah, she left him and that's that." Geeeeeez, that's kind of too important to be a footnote in the larger story, ain't it?

I'unno. Anyways, yeah, it's clearly a sequel, but one of those "We're banking on most of you coming for Gunn's name on it because you loved GotG, and we're just gonna pretend none of you saw the first one" kinda "sequels".

I wanted more Croc and Katana. But nobody ever asks me. :trazz:

I feel like SS isn't worth acknowledging. If the film was good, it'd be different. And I'll be honest in that this, next to JL, is the worst movie I've seen in a while, so I may be on the extreme end of the spectrum.

And this looks to be hard R? It'd be the perfect time for them to shine. Croc going to town on people (like we never got to see in the first one) and Katana slicing people up.

That'd be awesome. They got the look for Croc absolutely perfect. Both of them, really, but Croc's look is hard to pull off. That really impressed me.

For whatever other issues it had, they really nailed the look for some of the characters in that movie. They made some strange choices all over the place but some of the costuming was absolutely on-point.

I, too, loved the Suicide Squad Croc and really wished we'd see him again. Apparently not here, alas.

He's too busy watching BET. :lol:

The first SS movie got Croc's design right but the dialogue, not so much.:lol: At least they remember that he's a guy with a bizarre skin disease as opposed to a giant mutant crocodile. There were some versions where he looked like a T-Rex.

Yeah, that's too far. I mean the "secondary mutation" bit, eh, that's interesting, but... you could tell that those specific writers just wished they had Spider-Man's Lizard to work with instead, and just reshaped "Croc" to fit their needs rather than actually trying to, y'know, write Killer Croc properly.

Pete Davidson is in this? Oh, GROSS. Hopefully he gets killed off first. That guy's f*cking insufferable. John Cena's bad enough but if Davidson is in the movie a lot then this one's a Hard Pass from me, dawg.

Not planning on seeing this until after I get full Spoilers. Because there's way too many people I can't stand in it and they're asking me to forgive a lot before they even get started. You can assume Cena's character survives because they have Big Plans for him (plus, John Cena :roll: You KNOW they're gonna try and get him and The Rock in the same movie sooner rather than later, so no way he bites it in this one), but I'm gonna need some of these other guys to get killed off and FAST or else I'm not gonna be able to sit through this.

As it is, it just looks... dumb. I generally do not like Gunn's movies, and this looks... like one of His Movies.

Polka-Dot Man? Seriously. C'mon.

Yeah, he's pretty terrible IRL.

I feel like neither Gunn nor Ayer really understand Suicide Squad.

We need interesting characters who aren't ALL jokes, AND some of them need to die.

Ayer barely killed anybody, but he did give us interesting mid-level characters who were decently skilled: El Diablo, Killer Croc, Harley, Deadshot, Boomerang. Now, he SQUANDERED a lot of those characters (Boomerang and Killer Croc), but the potential was there.

Gunn... well, we'll see. Killer Shark, Harley, and whoever the fvck Idris Elba is playing. Those are the only ones I currently give a fvck about. And only if Harley is more Batman Harley than weird "SJW Chick Flick" Harley. Ugh.

For a movie about the Suicide Squad, the first one really did more Right than Wrong in the grand scheme of things. It sure didn't seem to hit the mark with a lot of people as a movie, but I mean, it totally represented the "brand" or whatever correctly, for the most part. It's a mess, especially Act III, but I think it says a lot that the guy who created the Squad for the comics said that it was everything he'd expect to see in a movie about them. I think the rest has a lot to do with, "Was the movie even necessary?" And that's a conversation. I'unno, I feel like they aimed squarely for the middle and hit it. A lot could have been done differently, for sure, but I mean... that's the Squad, those are the characters... everyone IN it was done perfectly, to my eyes, they just didn't get a lot to do because the studio didn't know if they were making a comic book version of "The Expendables" or a black comedy about "Harley Quinn and Her Wacky Pals." But for better and worse, that was definitely the Suicide Squad. Like that's what those characters (and a movie about those characters) looks like.

A lot of things were allegedly very different before the studio took final cut away from Ayer. In the unlikely event that his cut ever saw the light of day, I'd be very interested in seeing it. For one thing, I love alternate cuts of movies in general; I find it fascinating to see how different sets of hands can alter the entire shape and direction of a film (for Better and/or Worse). And I feel like there was probably a more coherent narrative before WB started tinkering with it. There's at least THREE different versions of that movie, as I understand it. That's nuts! I doubt any of them is a masterpiece, but I'm willing to entertain the notion that Ayer kinda knew what he was doing with it and that WB didn't have a clue what they wanted. Hence the multiple different cuts with varying plot points and tones.

This time out, I feel like Gunn ALSO knows exactly what he wants to do and WB is just totally letting him, but... this looks a lot more like the Birds of Prey movie than I'm comfortable with.

Slyvester Stallone is in the movie

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Sylvester Stallone reveals that he will be in James Gunn’s ‘THE SUICIDE SQUAD’.

(Source: https://instagram.com/p/CHlVfoypWmF/?igshid=pqgdi20tjw0)

Trailer's out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdlvexsfRAw

much better than that 2016 travesty. Also it looks like Slyvester Stallone is voicing King Shark

Not feeling it.

Eh. Jeeze. I'd just have to see it. Seems like a harder core version of Guardians of the Galaxy... but on Earth. I'd probably enjoy a whole movie where it's just King Shark eating dudes bloodily, but I didn't really chuckle at anything here.