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Shark_Blade 12-10-2020 05:31 PM

Hayden Christensen will play Darth Vader in 'Star Wars: Obi-Wan Kenobi' series
 
Darth Vader is returning to a galaxy far, far away. President of Lucasfilm Kathleen Kennedy announced at the Disney Investors Day that the “Star Wars” prequel star Hayden Christensen will reprise his role as Darth Vader for the Obi-Wan spinoff series.

The Obi-Wan series, starring Ewan McGregor (who played the beloved jedi in prequel films) will air on Disney Plus. Also announced, the “Andor” spinoff starring Diego Luna as Cassian Andor from “Rogue One,” an Ashoka Tano spinoff and a “Rangers of the New Republic” series both brought to you by “The Mandalorian” creator Jon Favreau and longtime “Star Wars” creator and Executive Producer Dave Filoni.
https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/hay...an-1234851064/

CyberCubed 12-10-2020 06:03 PM

So he'll be wearing the suit we won't see his face anyway so does it matter?

Musashi 12-10-2020 06:15 PM

I imagine, since they've taken the trouble to cast him, there will be lots of scenes in his meditation chamber with the helmet off. I wonder if that means Ian McDiarmid will be in it too, via hologram cameo.

I hope Vader does his trademark "Nooooooooo...!!!" catchphrase. You know, how he's always done that...

MikeandRaph87 12-10-2020 06:20 PM

What is with all of these Star Wars films and series? One to two projects are enough especially after everything was shelved after the sequel trilogy ended. One thing I am curious about though, can something that has nothing to do with the original trilogy or tied to the Skywalkers actually be a success? I mean, I am a casual fan, who only watches the movies( granted 10 times over) and of course Darth Plageuis and the Marvel ongoing, but is there a big enough fan base for the non-Skywalker stuff to sustain a good profit? Star Wars is being oversaturated going by the string of announcements. Too much at one time and how many will actually make it to an actual release?

I am interested in this because of Obi Wan, but especially if Darth Vader is involved. He was the best part of the forgettable Rouge One film.

TurtleTitan97 12-10-2020 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1872174)
One thing I am curious about though, can something that has nothing to do with the original trilogy or tied to the Skywalkers actually be a success? I mean, I am a casual fan, who only watches the movies( granted 10 times over) and of course Darth Plageuis and the Marvel ongoing, but is there a big enough fan base for the non-Skywalker stuff to sustain a good profit?


If the success of the Mandalorian is any indication, then it's indeed possible with the right script and people involved.

frank_one 12-10-2020 07:13 PM

Great news, I'm happy to see Hayden back to Star Wars.

Roseangelo 12-10-2020 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1872174)
One thing I am curious about though, can something that has nothing to do with the original trilogy or tied to the Skywalkers actually be a success? I mean, I am a casual fan, who only watches the movies( granted 10 times over) and of course Darth Plageuis and the Marvel ongoing, but is there a big enough fan base for the non-Skywalker stuff to sustain a good profit? Star Wars is being oversaturated going by the string of announcements. Too much at one time and how many will actually make it to an actual release?

All of this stuff, especially the hard play on Disney+ releases, is absolutely because of the success of The Mandalorian. No Skywalkers there.

Leo656 12-10-2020 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 1872184)
All of this stuff, especially the hard play on Disney+ releases, is absolutely because of the success of The Mandalorian.

That's exactly what I was thnking.

MikeandRaph87 12-10-2020 07:30 PM

Hayden gets criticized for poor acting after having to live up to an iconic villain who also is fully costumed while Hayden is himself fully seen. Typecast for the one role which living up to is impossible its unfair to him and a shame that he has had so few acting opportunities.

As far as the Mandalorian there is the Luke tease hanging over it. I have never seen an episode of a Star Wars television show, but the Obi Wan mini-series looks promising.

Leo656 12-10-2020 07:35 PM

It's his own fault. He ain't good.

People swear to me that he was good in, like, one other thing that I can't remember the name of, but I disagree. He's a very terrible actor.

The script did him no favors but it's rose-colored glasses to say he was any good on his own. He wasn't.

sdp 12-10-2020 07:45 PM

I think he'll appear as either "visions" or mirages with Vader as human, clearly it can't be Vader since their meeting in ANH is their first one since Mustafar.
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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1872174)
What is with all of these Star Wars films and series? One to two projects are enough especially after everything was shelved after the sequel trilogy ended. One thing I am curious about though, can something that has nothing to do with the original trilogy or tied to the Skywalkers actually be a success? I mean, I am a casual fan, who only watches the movies( granted 10 times over) and of course Darth Plageuis and the Marvel ongoing, but is there a big enough fan base for the non-Skywalker stuff to sustain a good profit? Star Wars is being oversaturated going by the string of announcements. Too much at one time and how many will actually make it to an actual release?

I am interested in this because of Obi Wan, but especially if Darth Vader is involved. He was the best part of the forgettable Rouge One film.

The movies got terrible reception and diminishing returns because people didn't want annual star wars movies but The Mandalorian is doing good, so since their original plan went south they're now doubling up on The mandalorian style series and build a "shared" universe there which is what they wanted to do with movies.

I hope it works, it likely isn't much more expensive doing all these at once and thankfully Dave Filoni who gets star wars is being given more power so I hope all this goes well. I mean I don't want a show based on that guy from Rogue One, but if it makes his character better and make Rogue One a better movie because of it then I'm all for it.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 12-10-2020 07:51 PM

The more Disney pushes all this new Star Wars stuff, the more interested I get in the Expanded Universe book and comics. :tlol:

Shark_Blade 12-10-2020 07:55 PM

I personally don’t like his acting but as he has matures now probably he’s sharpen his acting skill too? It’s still nice to see a familiar face again.

Coola Yagami 12-10-2020 08:35 PM

Honestly Star Wars shoulda stayed to the movies. I'll give you Clone Wars and the Mandalorian, but like, enough is enough. I guess they're trying to compete with Star Trek in terms of milking a space related series for all its worth.

Leo656 12-10-2020 08:43 PM

I admit that a lot of the new expanded stuff hasn't been great, but only someone who doesn't read would say that they should have stopped with the movies. The Dark Horse comics had tons of good-to-great material, and a lot of the games were great. Some of them were awful but stuff like KOTOR was better than any of the movies were. I can't speak to all of the multitude of novels, but the novelizations of the original trilogy were honestly better than the films from a story standpoint.

Frankly, the movies are the part of the franchise people are the most familiar with, but a case could be made that they're far from the "best" thing about Star Wars by this point. Especially when we've now hit a point where there's more "bad" or at least "questionable" Star Wars movies than good ones. There's far better Star Wars material outside the movies than in it. If people are too lazy to find out for themselves that's their prerogative, but if Star Wars was only a film series, it would be a bad one. And most of what gives the stories and characters depth didn't come from the movies, but from Everything Else.

Shark_Blade 12-10-2020 09:42 PM

Star Wars Twitter:

The Original Series begins 10 years after the dramatic events of Revenge of the Sith, and is coming to #DisneyPlus.

https://twitter.com/starwars/status/...639829507?s=21

sdp 12-10-2020 10:32 PM

1. The Bad Batch

2. The Acolyte

3. Obi-Wan Kenobi

4. Ahsoka

5. Andor

6. Visions

7. Lando

8. Rangers of the New Republic

9. Rogue Squadron

10. Untitled Taika Waititi Film

11. A Droid Story

At least the CW took years to get to so many shows :lol:

CyberCubed 12-10-2020 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1872174)
but is there a big enough fan base for the non-Skywalker stuff to sustain a good profit? Star Wars is being oversaturated going by the string of announcements. Too much at one time and how many will actually make it to an actual release.

Star Wars doesn't need to be about the Skywalkers and most of the franchise actually hasn't been for years.

IMJ 12-11-2020 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1872192)
Hayden gets criticized for poor acting after having to live up to an iconic villain who also is fully costumed while Hayden is himself fully seen. Typecast for the one role which living up to is impossible its unfair to him and a shame that he has had so few acting opportunities.

As far as the Mandalorian there is the Luke tease hanging over it. I have never seen an episode of a Star Wars television show, but the Obi Wan mini-series looks promising.

Agreed totally on the Obi-Wan show. But the Mandalorian is a great show. Worth checkin' out!

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1872241)
Star Wars doesn't need to be about the Skywalkers and most of the franchise actually hasn't been for years.

True, but in many ways this was a core component as a lot of the backlask to the new trilogy. The Last Jedi cemented it. Then The Rise of Skywalker came out and literally nobody cared. Ironic too - "the rise of Skywalker" ended a trilogy that did nothing with Luke and next to nothing with Leia.

Panda_Kahn_fan 12-11-2020 01:25 AM

I'm actually looking forward to this series, as well as the others. They all sound intriguing on paper.

The only thing that depresses me is that no matter how good all of these shows are, that horrible sequel trilogy will always looms like a shadow ahead in the timeline. No matter how epic they make the stories, the New Republic will still collapse and undo the victory of the OT against the empire, Luke will still fail to reestablish the jedi order and run away to be a hermit, Han will still run away to be a deadbeat dad and husband, and the all-powerful mar-Rey Sue will still swoop in to defeat all of the bad guys Anakin and Luke failed to stop. The sequel trilogy is like finding a pile of week-old dung at the end of the rainbow. :sick: Spoiling how beautiful the rest of the rainbow is.

Still, can't wait to see more Obi-wan in exile.

Andrew NDB 12-11-2020 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan (Post 1872299)
The only thing that depresses me is that no matter how good all of these shows are, that horrible sequel trilogy will always looms like a shadow ahead in the timeline. No matter how epic they make the stories, the New Republic will still collapse and undo the victory of the OT against the empire, Luke will still fail to reestablish the jedi order and run away to be a hermit, Han will still run away to be a deadbeat dad and husband, and the all-powerful mar-Rey Sue will still swoop in to defeat all the bad guys Anakin and Luke failed to stop.

Sad but true. Like they could even do the world's best Thrawn movie or trilogy tomorrow... and who cares? 25 years forward in-story and the First Order will show up and just blast everything and everyone just (strangely proudly?) becomes Rebels again.

Lame.

IMJ 12-11-2020 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1872301)
Sad but true. Like they could even do the world's best Thrawn movie or trilogy tomorrow... and who cares? 25 years forward in-story and the First Order will show up and just blast everything and everyone just (strangely proudly?) becomes Rebels again.

Lame.

Agreed with you both completely.

Leo656 12-11-2020 01:35 AM

Those movies really did ruin the franchise.

Not "ruin" as in "prevent anyone from making new material", because obviously they're still doing that. But like you said... it can all be "great" but in the grand scheme of things it's all completely meaningless.

Doesn't matter how good the Prequel Era or Original Trilogy Era or In-Between Era shows are. Not with the Sequel Trilogy as the finish line.

It doesn't matter how awesome the rub-and-tug is if you end up popping a bloody jizz wad at the end of it. The entire experience is f*cking ruined.

Andrew NDB 12-11-2020 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1872308)
Those movies really did ruin the franchise.

Not "ruin" as in "prevent anyone from making new material", because obviously they're still doing that. But like you said... it can all be "great" but in the grand scheme of things it's all completely meaningless.

Doesn't matter how good the Prequel Era or Original Trilogy Era or In-Between Era shows are. Not with the Sequel Trilogy as the finish line.

It doesn't matter how awesome the rub-and-tug is if you end up popping a bloody jizz wad at the end of it. The entire experience is f*cking ruined.

If anything, any really cool stuff in between VI and VII now makes the sequel trilogy even more nonsensical. Like, if there's a big, cool Thrawn what-to-do throw down with the New Republic... how do the pacifists in VII make any sense (that forced the creation of "the Resistance," because nobody in the New Republic believed the Empire would attack them anymore)?

sdp 12-11-2020 01:45 AM

I'd like to think that disney is actively working on their expanded universe to retcon and fix the sequel trilogy the best they possibly can over the next few years.

Leo656 12-11-2020 01:48 AM

"It was all wiped out when Superboy Prime punched the Source Wall" or whatever would work just fine for me. :trazz:

The best part is you know that they had NO IDEA how f*cking terrible their nonsense was gonna go over. They thought they were good! They thought people would love them! All that triumphant horse sh*t about how Disney was gonna "save" Star Wars after Lucas and the Prequels "ruined" it... and then BAM, right in the nuts. :lol:

I mean, it's glorious. But only if you f*cking hate Disney and get a laugh every time they blow an easy layup. Otherwise it's a goddamn tragedy.

Panda_Kahn_fan 12-11-2020 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1872308)
Those movies really did ruin the franchise.

Not "ruin" as in "prevent anyone from making new material", because obviously they're still doing that. But like you said... it can all be "great" but in the grand scheme of things it's all completely meaningless.

Doesn't matter how good the Prequel Era or Original Trilogy Era or In-Between Era shows are. Not with the Sequel Trilogy as the finish line.

It doesn't matter how awesome the rub-and-tug is if you end up popping a bloody jizz wad at the end of it. The entire experience is f*cking ruined.

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1872312)
I'd like to think that disney is actively working on their expanded universe to retcon and fix the sequel trilogy the best they possibly can over the next few years.

Unfortunately, the only way to 'fix' the sequel trilogy is to use the new series to 'days of future past' the sequel trilogy into an alternate timeline. Any fixes that leave those movies intact in the timeline is like putting a band-aid over a severed limb and saying 'all better!'

Sumac 12-11-2020 06:40 PM

I don't HATE Disney, but I am really glad when talentless hacks, leading the company and crushing their own franchises through sheer pandering and stupidity land on their asses.

CyberCubed 12-11-2020 08:15 PM

The Obi-Wan series is planned to be a short 1-season mini-series, so I don't even think Hayden will get that many scenes since surely Darth Vader won't be in every episode, but a handful I imagine.

IMJ 12-11-2020 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1872447)
The Obi-Wan series is planned to be a short 1-season mini-series, so I don't even think Hayden will get that many scenes since surely Darth Vader won't be in every episode, but a handful I imagine.

It's weird to shoehorn too much into this show with Vader. IIRC the line in A New Hope was only that Vader sensed a presence that he "hasn't felt since...". And in that context I think the best explanation for "since" was the events of Mustafar.

But they'll shoe horn another meeting in their, which is ridiculous because Vader wouldn't hunted Obi-Wan down at all costs upon another meeting.

Shark_Blade 12-13-2020 12:31 AM

Concept art of Hayden Christensen’s Darth Vader in the ‘OBI WAN KENOBI’ series revealed:

- Him approaching a trio of younglings in the Jedi Temple
- Seated on a throne as he communicates with a hologram.

https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/...vader-rematch/

Andrew NDB 12-13-2020 01:59 AM

They seem to strongly be implying some kind of a rematch between Obi-Wan and Vader takes place. Wouldn't this kind of destroy Vader's line in IV about, "When last we met, I was the apprentice and you were the teacher"?

Leo656 12-13-2020 03:15 AM

Oh, yeah, they're gonna start paying attention to continuity NOW. :lol:

frank_one 12-13-2020 11:29 AM

There won't be a rematch between Obi and Darth. It would cost too much.

TigerClaw 12-13-2020 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by frank_one (Post 1872615)
There won't be a rematch between Obi and Darth. It would cost too much.

The issue with this rematch is that Obi Wan will survive it the 1st time. So we know he has faced him before but wasn't able to turn him back to the light side.


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