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Andrew NDB 12-11-2020 11:38 PM

New Earth-set "Alien" TV series coming to FX
 
Coming from Noah Hawley, the showrunner of Legion and Fargo.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/earth-s...-coming-to-fx/

neatoman 12-12-2020 09:25 AM

Isn't the whole point of the series that the first four movies (as well as the prequels too I guess) that the Aliens need to be kept away from earth? Because their rapid reproduction means earth would be ****ed if they ever got there. If the idea here is that they've finally reached earth, then the characters will be fighting a pointless battle. Or is the idea that WY are sending out different parties into space to find various different aliens for experimentation, and earth is just an HQ that pops up in every episode?

TigerClaw 12-12-2020 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1872488)
Isn't the whole point of the series that the first four movies (as well as the prequels too I guess) that the Aliens need to be kept away from earth? Because their rapid reproduction means earth would be ****ed if they ever got there. If the idea here is that they've finally reached earth, then the characters will be fighting a pointless battle. Or is the idea that WY are sending out different parties into space to find various different aliens for experimentation, and earth is just an HQ that pops up in every episode?

You have to take into account the company Weyland-Yutani was responsible for this entire mess. They wanna bring these aliens to earth and weaponize them. They are putting all its employees at risk doing this. They don't care if somebody is killed. all they care about is bringing them to earth. They are a shady company with an agenda.

I bet the TV show will explore this more in depth

neatoman 12-12-2020 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1872489)
You have to take into account the company Weyland-Yutani was responsible for this entire mess. They wanna bring these aliens to earth and weaponize them. They are putting all its employees at risk doing this. They don't care if somebody is killed. all they care about is bringing them to earth. They are a shady company with an agenda.

I bet the TV show will explore this more in depth

I'm aware of that but if the aliens are already on earth, what chance do the protagonists even have of getting them off earth? Or even just surviving for that matter? Bring a single alien to earth and if you fail to kill before it can start abducting people, you'll soon have a colony of them.

TigerClaw 12-12-2020 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1872494)
I'm aware of that but if the aliens are already on earth, what chance do the protagonists even have of getting them off earth? Or even just surviving for that matter? Bring a single alien to earth and if you fail to kill before it can start abducting people, you'll soon have a colony of them.

The question is where does this show take place in the timeline? Prometheus and Alien Covenant were prequels. Alien Resurrections was the last movie chronologically.

Andrew NDB 12-12-2020 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1872495)
The question is where does this show take place in the timeline? Prometheus and Alien Covenant were prequels. Alien Resurrections was the last movie chronologically.

The answer is "not far in the future," they've said. So before Prometheus and all of that. Somehow.

neatoman 12-12-2020 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1872528)
The answer is "not far in the future," they've said. So before Prometheus and all of that. Somehow.

OK, we can assume that AVP is non-canon because clearly Prometheus did... But then... Are Prometheus and Covenant canon then? God... I thought this sort of fluid canonicity thing would stay in comic book/video game form.

Leo656 12-12-2020 03:43 PM

According to the people who make movies and TV shows, you're not supposed to think about it so much, and if you do, you're a nerd. "We don't make sh*t for nerds, bruh."

That's pretty much what it boils down to.

That's where the entertainment industry is now. A bunch of "geek culture" movies and TV shows being put together by people who can't read.

frank_one 12-12-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1872530)
Are Prometheus and Covenant canon then? God... I thought this sort of fluid canonicity thing would stay in comic book/video game form.

Ridley Scott is involved as executive producer through his Scott Free company, so they're canon... I guess :-?

Andrew NDB 12-12-2020 04:15 PM

Difficult to get excited about, really.

Is it a ship of Colonial Marines in the far future, bug-hunting world to world? Is it the realization of the Blomkamp "Alien 5" with Ripley and Newt and all that? Do we get to finally see the Alien homeworld? Do we get the wrapup of what David was doing at the end of Covenant? Do we get to see how that fossilized Engineer ended up on LV-426 with that queen at last? Do we get to explore the Engineers' culture and planet and why they wanted to wipe us out 2000 years ago?

Basically, a "no" to all of those. Instead, "how about some stuff on Earth in the year 2030 with probably scientists dicking around and accidentally make Aliens?"

frank_one 12-12-2020 04:52 PM

What will the tagline be for this one?
"On Earth everyone can hear you scream."
Nah.

Andrew NDB 12-12-2020 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by frank_one (Post 1872546)
What will the tagline be for this one?
"On Earth everyone can hear you scream."
Nah.

That was the poster for AVPR.

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2007/10/05...equiem-poster/

TigerClaw 12-12-2020 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1872539)
Difficult to get excited about, really.

Is it a ship of Colonial Marines in the far future, bug-hunting world to world? Is it the realization of the Blomkamp "Alien 5" with Ripley and Newt and all that? Do we get to finally see the Alien homeworld? Do we get the wrapup of what David was doing at the end of Covenant? Do we get to see how that fossilized Engineer ended up on LV-426 with that queen at last? Do we get to explore the Engineers' culture and planet and why they wanted to wipe us out 2000 years ago?

Basically, a "no" to all of those. Instead, "how about some stuff on Earth in the year 2030 with probably scientists dicking around and accidentally make Aliens?"

In the Investor thing. I believe they mention that the action would be the like the 2nd Aliens.

But how much can they push the mythology. In Prometheus we learned when they come from. Then Alien Covenant took it further and they were the result of David doing experiments.

So the mystery behind where the Xenomorphs came from was demystified thanks to that movie.

I wish these movies explored the Engineers more deeply so we can find out where they came from. Since they were the result why Earth had life.

Andrew NDB 12-12-2020 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1872551)
In the Investor thing. I believe they mention that the action would be the like the 2nd Aliens.

They did. Although... on Earth, close to our present day? What are they going to be actioning?

frank_one 12-12-2020 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1872548)

You are right! Apparently that movie poster is so ugly I've actually never taken the time to give it a second look and read it.

TigerClaw 12-12-2020 07:11 PM

This is what was said from the Investor Day stream about the show.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2020/12/11...ent-announced/
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Landgraf described the series as combining elements from Alien and Aliens, having “both the timeless horror of the first Alien film with the non-stop action of the second.”
Info about this can be heard 8 minutes into the video below.


oldmanwinters 12-13-2020 06:59 PM

Seems like a bad idea, but maybe they'll draw inspiration from the early ALIEN comics from Dark Horse? Nah...

Sumac 12-14-2020 12:29 PM

Sounds like a pile of dung attempting to recapture glory of two best movies in the franchise, while creating nothing of its own.

Powder 12-14-2020 08:27 PM

I don't see how this could possibly work. I love the property, so I'll keep an eye on things, but I expect nothing & will still likely be disappointed.

Andrew NDB 11-22-2021 02:13 PM

"The first Alien story set on Earth."

https://www.darkhorizons.com/scott-t...runner-series/

oldmanwinters 11-22-2021 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1912317)
"The first Alien story set on Earth."

https://www.darkhorizons.com/scott-t...runner-series/

30 Years after they teased it! :tlol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk_x9W1xKng

Andrew NDB 11-22-2021 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1912320)
30 Years after they teased it! :tlol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk_x9W1xKng

Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. What a farce. Even if they went with Gibson's draft, that hardly involved Earth.

oldmanwinters 11-22-2021 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1912328)
Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. What a farce. Even if they went with Gibson's draft, that hardly involved Earth.

I think Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan had a similar strategy.

Andrew NDB 02-17-2022 03:31 PM

Ripley's not in it. Well, no sh**.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/dont-ex...-alien-series/

neatoman 02-17-2022 06:28 PM

Well Weaver is 72 years old and made weird demands about the franchise when Alien 3 was in production. I'm not exactly surprised she's not coming back for this (presumably lower budget) TV show. Maybe she'll come back for like Alien 7 or something whenever that is greenlit, just not a TV show.

... Yeah yeah, I know Ripley died in Alien 3 and the less said about the clone abomination from Alien 4 the better, but is anyone actually going to bother acknowledging 3 and 4 in anything but the most basic sense? Fincher has even stated how much he hated making Alien 3 and thinks it crap, Alien 3 would be ignored even if the people who made it went on to work on Alien 7. At best a future movie would hanwave them away with "Those events were just a VR simulation W-Y used to test how to handle Ripley" or something like that.

Andrew NDB 02-17-2022 08:37 PM

Well, of course it's not surprising that Weaver wouldn't want to come do an Alien TV show (although, she did do The Defenders, didn't she?). It's surprising that they were thinking anyone would be expecting or wanting her to be in an Alien TV show, particularly one they've already said is set in the nearish future.

Andrew NDB 05-01-2023 10:42 PM

They have their lead:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/sydney-...ien-tv-series/

IMJ 05-02-2023 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1920368)
Well Weaver is 72 years old and made weird demands about the franchise when Alien 3 was in production.

Did she? I would've assumed she asked for more money of course - but what weirdness ensued?

neatoman 05-02-2023 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 1961897)
Did she? I would've assumed she asked for more money of course - but what weirdness ensued?

She allegedly wanted a scene where she had sex with an alien. Though I've seen conflicting reports on which of the movies she wanted it in though and it might just be a rumor upon closer inspection. I thought it was 3 but that might not be the one.

https://www.sbs.com.au/guide/article...n-resurrection

IMJ 05-02-2023 05:14 PM

Wow. Okay. Alright well..... that would've been artistic.

Andrew NDB 07-18-2024 07:18 PM

https://www.darkhorizons.com/alien-s...omulus-bucket/

The title is "Alien: Earth," apparently.

neatoman 07-19-2024 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1993900)
https://www.darkhorizons.com/alien-s...omulus-bucket/

The title is "Alien: Earth," apparently.

That's the most boring title imaginable.

ZariusTwo 07-19-2024 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1993900)
https://www.darkhorizons.com/alien-s...omulus-bucket/

The title is "Alien: Earth," apparently.

Ah...Earth...I name thee Earth

Andrew NDB 09-04-2024 02:46 PM

So... it involves a space ship crashing on Earth. That's probably where the Aliens in this come from.

https://bloody-disgusting.com/tv/382...DbgmUpt-n88SDw

And the article can't be right about Weyland-Yutani... because there is not Weyland-Yutani yet, just Weyland. And I'm really wondering what sort of mileage they're going to be able to possibly get out of Aliens in a pre-Prometheus setting. Because sooner or later, whatever they encounter of the Aliens has to be completely burned away/annihilated/erased for the movies to make any sense.

Andrew NDB 11-21-2024 03:11 PM



So it's set in 2120... just 2 years before Alien. So that changes things a lot. Just 2 years before Alien, a ship crashes on Earth and we get Aliens. Also, presumably David has been doing his Aliens thing on Origae-6 for 6 years now. I wonder if there's a bigger link than we've been led to believe? We're probably going to see the Nostromo.

Also, this is a lot like Romulus in that while there CAN be Aliens in it, we know that by the time the series ends there can't be any shred left of them... otherwise the later movies and Weyland-Yutani's motivations don't make any sense. Like, if they already had access to Aliens, why would Burke be trying to smuggle back facehugged space marines 60 years later? Or why they'd be chasing after Ripley in 3, or cloning her 8 times for 200 years in 4?

Andrew NDB 03-27-2025 04:19 PM

The most substantial trailer so far:



Coola Yagami 03-27-2025 05:36 PM

I hate how they continue to run these franchises into the ground. Like they don't even have anything to do with Ripley anymore.

Andrew NDB 03-27-2025 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 2006244)
I hate how they continue to run these franchises into the ground. Like they don't even have anything to do with Ripley anymore.

I'm OK with no Ripley anymore, but they HAVE to find something interesting to replace her with. Ripley clones (both literal AND figurative) aren't it, nor is just over and over again basically doing a "Greatest Hits" of moments from the best movies any kind of a great idea, which is all that Covenant and Romulus were.

* Let's visit the Alien homeworld.

* Let's visit the REAL Engineer homeworld.

* Let's see Aliens on a macro level on a planet. Maybe with the Queen Mother like seen in the comics.

* A proper Aliens vs. Predator movie.

That's about all I want to see out of the Aliens anymore.

Andrew NDB 04-27-2025 12:49 AM



I admit, I was confused -- and still am -- that we were about to watch an actual gestation inside a human (or something) and then the chestburst. But it appears to be a chestburster being created... inside one of the "pods" that we saw in Romulus?

Andrew NDB 05-02-2025 03:15 PM

Final trailer.



idk... still seems like more "Greatest hits."

"Remember the Nostromo?"

"Remember when they woke up from cryosleep?"

And at 00:57 that straight up looks like they used some AI to make that shot.


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