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superstaff 12-14-2020 09:55 AM

Viacom Registers New Trademark for New TMNT Project "TMNT: The Next Chapter"
 
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Next Chapter: ViacomCBS Applies to Register Trademark for New TMNT Project

From the article:

ViacomCBS is filing Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Next Chapter under "entertainment services in the nature of continuing program series, featuring animation, comedy and drama provided through cable television, broadcast television, internet, video-on-demand, and through other forms of transmission media; providing online information in the field of entertainment concerning television programs," which suggests that Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Next Chapter will be a new TMNT series, rather than the recently announced CG-animated Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles theatrical movie Nickelodeon Animation is currently producing with Point Grey Pictures - although it could be a series based on the movie. It's also not thought to be related to Netflix's Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie, expected to premiere next year.

It's also currently unknown which platform the new TMNT series is being produced for: Nickelodeon (linear and digital) or streamers such as CBS All Access/Paramount+ and Netflix.

ViacomCBS filed their application to trademark Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Next Chapter on Tuesday, December 8, 2020, as has the serial number 90367277.

Shark_Blade 12-14-2020 10:01 AM

More vague stuff how awesome.

Thanks for sharing nonetheless.

The Turtle Terminator 12-14-2020 10:02 AM

It’s a very creative name. Early thoughts is that it’s a continuation of something (duh!). Potentially the 2012 show, but all three shows have got a decent finale (no idea on Rise). Could this be the live action show in the movie universe that was rumoured a few years back?

superstaff 12-14-2020 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1872715)
More vague stuff how awesome.

Thanks for sharing nonetheless.

I think the fact they registered a trademark is pretty big.

Nothing concrete yet, but it's indicative they will continue the franchise very soon.

"Next Chapter" does imply this is a continuation of some kind.

CyberCubed 12-14-2020 10:08 AM

"Next Chapter" really does sound odd if this is an all-new series.

Maybe the 2012 Nick show is coming back? If not, it's not a name I would use for a new continuity.

superstaff 12-14-2020 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1872719)
"Next Chapter" really does sound odd if this is an all-new series.

Maybe the 2012 Nick show is coming back? If not, it's not a name I would use for a new continuity.

Yeah, exactly.

There were rumors that they wanted to do a 1990 movie continuation a while ago, wasn't there? What if this is connected to that?

CyberCubed 12-14-2020 10:47 AM

Given this sounds like a TV series I don't think anything from the older movies will be continued. And of course the original cartoon and 2k3 series are unlikely to receive a new series (even with all the OT Turtles crossovers over the years).

If it isn't a new continuity there's really nothing else I could imagine it being the next chapter of but a few things. We know Rise is already getting a movie to wrap it up too.

Galactus 12-14-2020 10:51 AM

Call me deeply cynical but the title sounds like a show about the teenage sons and/or daughters of the original TMNT.

Autbot_Benz 12-14-2020 10:54 AM

as long as the show is nothing like Rise I will be happy

CyberCubed 12-14-2020 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Galactus (Post 1872724)
Call me deeply cynical but the title sounds like a show about the teenage sons and/or daughters of the original TMNT.

That would be, "TMNT: The Next Generation."

This title reminds me of Dragonball Super, which was an official continuation of DBZ. I think the early press-releases for the Beerus movie referred to it as the next chapter.

newfan 12-14-2020 11:05 AM

Not sure I want to pay too much attention, I'll wait until something is not only announced but also confirmed as in progress.

Just speaking in speculation the Next Chapter could be one of the former toons set later on on or a whole new toon just set with them older, after the stories we already know. So far as existing shows...I mean, it says not likely to be Rise but I suppose if it were that it could even be the next part for all we know, post the 'Rise' aspect. I dunno, it also speculates this might be instead of the new movie, that would be two movie threads we pointlessly have if that were the case. All just more speculation. Think I'll go back to reading Mirage and revisiting what I like.

superstaff 12-14-2020 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1872726)
This title reminds me of Dragonball Super, which was an official continuation of DBZ. I think the early press-releases for the Beerus movie referred to it as the next chapter.

Yeah, same here.

I think there's three possibilties:

1) It is the 'Next Chapter' of a pre-existing cartoon. Most likely 2012, but could also be 1987 or 2003, though I'd doubt it.

2) It is something where they are older, as someone else said, and set after their previous adventures (but also not related to one of the aforementioned cartoons, more like the adventures are informed). Maybe a more mature take on the franchise. I doubt it because kids and fans would probably prefer them being teenage mutants who fight Shredder, et al.

3) It is going to be something entirely new, they just use 'Next Chapter' as a cutesy tagline.

frank_one 12-14-2020 12:04 PM

My bet is that this will be a sequel to the 1987 series. Nostalgia is the only thing they know that can work.

IMJ 12-14-2020 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus (Post 1872724)
Call me deeply cynical but the title sounds like a show about the teenage sons and/or daughters of the original TMNT.

This is exactly what I was going to post. And that also fits the current pop culture operating model.

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Originally Posted by frank_one (Post 1872738)
My bet is that this will be a sequel to the 1987 series. Nostalgia is the only thing they know that can work.

That would be very interesting. But I don't buy it.

CyberCubed 12-14-2020 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by frank_one (Post 1872738)
My bet is that this will be a sequel to the 1987 series. Nostalgia is the only thing they know that can work.

I don't really see that as too likely. Despite multiple crossovers the show itself coming back is a huge undertaking, and the VA's for the original Turtles are pretty old now and besides maybe Rob Paulsen and Cam Clarke probably wouldn't work on a new series full time.

As seen with Nick's shows with 2012 and Rise, they clearly want to create their own universes rather than continuing the original cartoon.

IF it's a continuation of something old, the 2012 show is all I can see being revisited. And even then that's a big if. Technically when we hit 2022 the show will be in its 10th anniversary, so all the kids who grew up with it will have nostalgia for it.

sdp 12-14-2020 01:36 PM

Doesn't exist until an announcement is made, dont' get excited. this hasn't been picked up by any site besides this free blogspot site and it hasn't even been picked up by the sites that use any rumor as "announcements". Many companies file trademarks to protect their IP so could just be a case of that since the source of the site seems to be legitimate.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 12-14-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus (Post 1872724)
Call me deeply cynical but the title sounds like a show about the teenage sons and/or daughters of the original TMNT.

Pretty sure I would fvcking hate that :tlol:

lonewarrior20 12-14-2020 01:56 PM

i'm betting it's something like this.

Vicky82 12-14-2020 02:07 PM

Cool, so it could be a new show.

NinjaPug 12-14-2020 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1872753)
Doesn't exist until an announcement is made, dont' get excited. this hasn't been picked up by any site besides this free blogspot site and it hasn't even been picked up by the sites that use any rumor as "announcements". Many companies file trademarks to protect their IP so could just be a case of that since the source of the site seems to be legitimate.

Do sites typically report on trademarks? I know some Star Wars sites used to do that in past thinking it would be the name of a new movie but that’s all I’ve ever seen.

This seems legit if you look at the other trademarks for Viacom. All for future television shows some of which have been announced officially after they were registered.

CyberCubed 12-14-2020 02:31 PM

"The Next Chapter" implies continuation. If this was a reboot it would be "The First Chapter" or "The Beginning."

I don't think Nick really wants to take another risk on another new TMNT cartoon after Rise didn't do well at all, so makes me think they want to revisit something that was successful. The only thing that comes to mind realistically is some sort of continuation of the 2012 series, but I don't know for sure.

The original cartoon won't get a new series (although more crossovers is likely), 2k3 won't be revisited, the old 90's movies are done, Mirage/Archie/IDW are comics so it wouldn't involve those...all that's left is 2012 and Rise...and Rise just ended so...

sdp 12-14-2020 02:33 PM

Yeah it seems to be legitimate that they trademarked it, and yeah some sites do report on trademarks but it's not common since it usually leads to nothing, it's common for companies to register trademarks they have no intention of ever doing anything with them. I just wouldn't get excited, I can't remember a time when a trademark registration actually leaked something that happened.

I guess the soonest we could see something would be at Toyfair 2021 or however that's going to happen, if not then SDCC 2021. But honestly I think TMNT is on hiatus for the next couple of years. Which I'm ok with.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1872767)
"The Next Chapter" implies continuation. If this was a reboot it would be "The First Chapter" or "The Beginning."

The original cartoon won't get a new series (although more crossovers is likely), 2k3 won't be revisited, the old 90's movies are done, Mirage/Archie/IDW are comics so it wouldn't involve those...all that's left is 2012 and Rise...and Rise just ended so...

The Next Mutation was billed and advertised as "what happens next for the TMNT" despite being a new continuity and not being specifically based as a sequel. I remember the ads of "now they're grown up" or "they aren't teenagers any more".

IndigoErth 12-14-2020 02:49 PM

Very interesting, look forward to seeing more clues about what this might be.

Not sure what to think with that title. Sounds like a continuation as been mentioned, though on the other hand it could be a loosely generic, for lack of a better word, continuation based on the main TMNT concept that is just "next" because it delves into the adventures of a TMNT who have grown up. If an original series of its own, great. If a literal "next chapter" for 2012 with older TMNT, that's cool too, because that's what I'd been really wanting back when that one was ending. If it was a (decent) return of 2003 Turtles, I'd be ecstatic.

Making Rise and going younger didn't seem like that great of an idea from the get-go, and the exact opposite of what I had hoped for... and maybe they've finally did a 180 in that direction, realizing after all that the big money is with the fans who have an income.

Hope it's on tv, but if it ends up on streaming instead then I really hope it's available across a few of the most common services.


Though that title mostly made me think of Next Mutation. I hope not.


edit: The only thing that makes me doubt the possibly of 2012 continuation is because of the direction they took it. I know it was suggested that the Mutant Apocalypse episodes are just a possible figure and they have plenty of life left to tell about before those years, however it's hard to get past the part about the mutagen bomb that clearly happened while they were still young and split them up until they were reunited decades later in the Apocalypse eps.


More edit: Looked up the trademark search to see for myself that it's on there. Yup. Now will it happen or be something that falls through.... time will tell.

Allio 12-14-2020 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1872715)
More vague stuff how awesome.

Thanks for sharing nonetheless.

Basically how toku fans get when new trademarks appear.

Andrew NDB 12-14-2020 03:21 PM

Yeah, if this is the next chapter, what was the last chapter?

Nothing good, I'd wager. Best case scenario of all the options I think they'd go for is maybe a "jump forward" continuation of the 2012 universe... but it probably won't be that. Probably some kind of murky Fred Wolf: The Next Generation, as others have surmised.

neatoman 12-14-2020 03:29 PM

Well clearly the title can only imply an adaptation of 1001 Nights featuring TMNT characters, always leave the king with a cliffhanger.

sdp 12-14-2020 03:39 PM

If it were for the 87 Toon then it would surely ignore all the Red Sky seasons.

Galactus 12-14-2020 04:10 PM

I dunno. The fact that it's still called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles gives me the impression the characters will still be teenagers. Sure, Laird kept the title in Vol.4 when the characters were in their thirties but I can't imagine Nickelodeon doing that.

Maybe they are in their late teens and the show takes place after they'be defeated Shredder and the Foot and most of their major foes have been vanquished and there is a greater emphasis on new threats...although that was basically most of the Tales of the TMNT season of the 2012 show.

AquaParade 12-14-2020 04:58 PM

I don't imagine this as a continuation of the original cartoon. There is nowhere to go and that brand of TMNT seems to serve it's purpose as a merchandising juggernaut among a certain demographic, without them propelling it.
It's not like there is a secret TMNT sauce there, it's just nostalgia.

"The Next Chapter", in my mind, implies a desire to move on past the typical origin and Foot clan story we have gone through so many times. "Rise..." attempted to circumvent this by taking place before all those shenanigans, which also allowed them to keep the turtles young. I have to wonder if they're going to try the opposite move this time, if this is indeed a cartoon, which we know they've been working on.

Still, it's hard not to notice the timing of this coinciding with massive "The Last Ronin" sales. It's nice to imagine they've finally green-lit something for older fans.

Leo656 12-14-2020 05:14 PM

Y'know, it would be a bizarre choice but I wouldn't 100% rule out it being a reworked continuation of "Rise", picking up where it left off and so on.

I mean, thematically it would fit. We're done with the "Rise" and now on to "The Next Chapter".

I think odds are slim of that, truthfully, but I wouldn't 100% rule it out either. People did supposedly petition for a continuation/revival and stranger things have happened.

AquaParade 12-14-2020 05:17 PM

I could see that. It seems odd for them to move on with a series that by all accounts seems to have failed, but thematically it kind of makes sense and there is the movie on the way.

Maybe it seemed wiser to restructure the current show than start from scratch.

Andrew NDB 12-14-2020 05:21 PM

I don't think there would be a "The Next Chapter" if "Rise" had enjoyed a big success... so I think it's unlikely they'd throw good money after bad in that way, if the opposite.

MikeandRaph87 12-14-2020 05:21 PM

My first thought is its the title of the Rise wrap up that is the straight to Netflix film. A place is already made for it on Netflix so it would fit. The series was not popular so a full on sequel series would not be wise after it was wrapped up quickly and quietly after a premature renewal. A full on series is hard to believe.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 12-14-2020 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1872798)
My first thought is its the title of the Rise wrap up that is the straight to Netflix film. A place is already made for it on Netflix so it would fit. The series was not popular so a full on sequel series would not be wise after it was wrapped up quickly and quietly after a premature renewal. A full on series is hard to believe.

That's my guess, too. The Netflix Rise movie got a title.

IndigoErth 12-14-2020 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1872793)
Y'know, it would be a bizarre choice but I wouldn't 100% rule out it being a reworked continuation of "Rise", picking up where it left off and so on.

I mean, thematically it would fit. We're done with the "Rise" and now on to "The Next Chapter".

I think odds are slim of that, truthfully, but I wouldn't 100% rule it out either. People did supposedly petition for a continuation/revival and stranger things have happened.

Yeah, that crossed my mind too, but I seriously hope not. Would seem foolish to spend money trying to beat a dead horse, expecting it to impress just by painting it another color.

Roseangelo 12-14-2020 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1872802)
That's my guess, too. The Netflix Rise movie got a title.

The article details that it seems to be for a continuing series.

And that would be a terrible name for the Rise movie.

FredWolfLeonardo 12-14-2020 06:06 PM

I hope that this is going to be continuation of the 2012 series, as there is still quite a bit of unresolved stuff from that show that can be shown.

That, and it seems much smarter to continue the more beloved 2012 series rather than Rise, since the latter just didn't manage to find an audience to keep it afloat for long.

sdp 12-14-2020 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1872812)
I hope that this is going to be continuation of the 2012 series, as there is still quite a bit of unresolved stuff from that show that can be shown.

Ciro would just write more horror homages.

Andrew NDB 12-14-2020 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 1872811)
The article details that it seems to be for a continuing series.

And that would be a terrible name for the Rise movie.

And "The Next Chapter"? Was "Rise" even written in such a way that it had linear chapters, or anything like that?

CyberCubed 12-14-2020 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1872798)
My first thought is its the title of the Rise wrap up that is the straight to Netflix film. A place is already made for it on Netflix so it would fit. The series was not popular so a full on sequel series would not be wise after it was wrapped up quickly and quietly after a premature renewal. A full on series is hard to believe.

I doubt a Rise movie wouldn't have "Rise" in the title. If this is just a title of the Rise movie, it would have been "Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Next Chapter."

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1872786)
If it were for the 87 Toon then it would surely ignore all the Red Sky seasons.

I doubt it, they even used Lorg Dregg in the 2012 series. They just would have April in the yellow jump suit again I imagine.


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