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drgon78 12-26-2020 09:06 AM

What Games Would You Like To See An HD Remaster?
 
So what games would you like to see a HD remaster for?

Ones that come to mind for me...

Atelier Iris 1-3
Breath of Fire 3
Castlevania Symphony of The Night
Chrono Trigger
Diablo
Digital Devil Saga 1-2
Dragon Quest VIII
Mana Khemia 1-2
Parasite Eve
Persona 1-2
Phantasy Star IV
Shantae 1-3
Shining Force 1 and 2
Shining Force CD
Shining in The Darkness
Valis 1-3(Maybe 4 as well)

neatoman 12-26-2020 09:35 AM

Metroid Prime 1-3 and Skyward Sword.

IMJ 12-26-2020 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by drgon78 (Post 1874022)
Castlevania Symphony of The Night

I'm pretty sure this was at least made to be scalable to HD if not fully remasterd because IIRC it came as a downloadable game with the PS3's collector's edition of the absolutely amazing "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow" game.

But if you mean a remake instead of an HD remaster I'd be just as excited as I would be leery of it. LOL! The use of sprites in that game was a masterwork of programming and sprite artwork.

I'm tempted to replay both this and Lords of Shadow right now just because you brought this up, but that's hours of a deep dive into gaming again, man.

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Originally Posted by drgon78 (Post 1874022)
Shantae 1-3

So I've noticed that this series comes up often here on these boards. I might be wrong, but I thought they were already remastered of sorts via the Limited Run Games PS4 physical releases a few years back?

I think I still have sealed copies of one of them, although I know I sold at least the extra copies I picked up on the LRG initial order.

drgon78 12-26-2020 12:12 PM

Too be honest maybe Shantae 1-3 need actual remakes to look more like Shantae and the Seven Sirens.

IMJ 12-26-2020 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by drgon78 (Post 1874032)
Too be honest maybe Shantae 1-3 need actual remakes to look more like Shantae and the Seven Sirens.

Yeah, see I only became familiar with them through the two LRG releases. But I'm taking away from your context here that those LRG games were not remasters of the original three Shantae games you mentioned above?

-shrugs-

:lol:

Storm Eagle 12-26-2020 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1874024)
Metroid Prime 1-3 and Skyward Sword.

I'm definitely with you on Skyward Sword, but didn't the Metroid Prime trilogy already get the widescreen treatment?

neatoman 12-27-2020 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Storm Eagle (Post 1874093)
I'm definitely with you on Skyward Sword, but didn't the Metroid Prime trilogy already get the widescreen treatment?

Maybe wide-screen on the Wii but certainly not HD. The Wii can't display HD and the games did not receive a true port for either Wii U or Switch, which are capable of displaying HD. The version you can get for the Wii U is just an ISO of the Wii version meant to run in Wii mode, so no real improvement there.

Andrew NDB 12-28-2020 01:27 AM

I take this to mean existing 3D games boosted to HD, like the recent Mario 3D release.

Zelda: Skyward Sword
Chrono Cross
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Super Mario RPG

Storm Eagle 12-28-2020 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1874116)
Maybe wide-screen on the Wii but certainly not HD. The Wii can't display HD and the games did not receive a true port for either Wii U or Switch, which are capable of displaying HD. The version you can get for the Wii U is just an ISO of the Wii version meant to run in Wii mode, so no real improvement there.

Well then let's just see if those rumors about Metroid Prime Trilogy coming out for the Switch will ever become a reality.

GoldMutant 12-29-2020 11:01 PM

  • Die Hard Trilogy (unlikely)
  • Most major Nintendo 64 games (to list a few, either of the Castlevania games, F-Zero X, and Sin and Punishment)
  • Skyward Sword
  • Shadow of the Colossus
  • Zombies Ate My Neighbors

I figure with how popular Monster Hunter is that Shadow of the Colossus would benefit getting updated. Same with horror games in the case of Castlevania; can never count out Zelda either.

My main money though is updating the N64 or PlayStation games. The 2D PlayStation games hold up remarkably well. 3D modeling at the time, unless cartoonish (ex: Crash Bandicoot), doesn't. Most remain solid, but bear in mind it took time. Definitely a facelift can benefit them, as long as the core gameplay remains the same (or ironed out). I got nothing specific barring what I mentioned for the N64 games though for what can work best. Especially since several obvious/popular choices (Crash, FF7, Resident Evil, etc.) got remade this decade.

IMJ 12-29-2020 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldMutant (Post 1874434)
[LIST][*]Die Hard Trilogy (unlikely)

Oh geeze that's a deep dive.... wow...

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Originally Posted by GoldMutant (Post 1874434)
Shadow of the Colossus

Didn't this get one either on the PS3 or the PS4 already?

GoldMutant 12-29-2020 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 1874436)
Oh geeze that's a deep dive.... wow...

A YouTuber I follow recently brought this game back to my attention. :D Unfortunately, I doubt it can happen. Between politics and other popular Sega games, it's likely just a hidden gem at most. A shame too. :ohwell:

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Didn't this get one either on the PS3 or the PS4 already?
*checks* Indeed it did on the PS4. Guess that's me not paying attention. :lol:

If only I had a PS4 and I could check it out. Eventually.

IMJ 12-29-2020 11:12 PM

I forgot to mention my own pick for this.... I've been dying for a remaster of all three of these forever - The Parasite Eve series. I loved that series, and I never got to play the Third Birthday because of the platform it was on. They could remaster all three games and put them in a collection and I'd be all-in on those.

There's hope for Parasite Eve


FFVII Remake Producer Talks Parasite Eve; Says It Would Be a Waste to Not Use the Franchise’s Rich and Deep Characters

https://i.imgur.com/suSf4PBm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/d8Unrgum.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zcd1bdxm.png

Andrew NDB 12-30-2020 04:10 AM

Oh! Also Castlevania: Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness.

neatoman 12-30-2020 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1874455)
Oh! Also Castlevania: Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness.

Are they better or worse than the Lords of Shadow games?

drgon78 12-30-2020 06:54 AM

Forgot about Parasite Eve, I will be adding that to my list.

There where 3 Die Hard games?

Never liked the 3D Castlevania games. Never got a chance to play the 2D ones that came out after Symphony of The Night.

MsMarvelDuckie 12-30-2020 07:29 AM

Ooh, Parasite Eve! Loved that one. And BoF3 would be awesome to see in a modern rendition. Dig that dragon gene-splicing!

Andrew NDB 12-30-2020 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1874456)
Are they better or worse than the Lords of Shadow games?

Those came before those, but I never played the Lords of Shadow ones. Largely because they were said to reboot everything.

IMJ 12-30-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1874481)
Those came before those, but I never played the Lords of Shadow ones. Largely because they were said to reboot everything.

Lament of Innocence was a fantastic game. With an upscaling pound cable it might not even need a remaster.

I didn't get through the first level of Lords of Shadow 2, but Lords of Shadow 1 was a gaming masterpiece..... I could go on about that game all day. It was an amazing game.

The Deadman 02-09-2021 11:46 AM

The Genesis version of Jurassic Park.

drgon78 04-10-2022 06:06 AM

An HD remaster of Lollipop Chainsaw would be cool.

neatoman 04-10-2022 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by drgon78 (Post 1926536)
An HD remaster of Lollipop Chainsaw would be cool.

Wouldn't that be more like a 4K remaster? The game was already made for HD hardware.

drgon78 06-11-2022 03:31 PM

Added Lunar 1 and 2, can't believe I forgot about them.

Monty Mole 08-02-2022 11:24 PM

The Mother trilogy. Link's Awakening is proof it can work.

Stu_Padasso 08-02-2022 11:33 PM

Fallout: New Vegas without a doubt. Fallout 4 had better gameplay and settlement building but Vegas had the best story and setting.

Andrew NDB 08-03-2022 12:20 AM

I don't know why I didn't mention Zelda: Ocarina of Time. But not just sharpening the polygons with a "remaster"... I mean take the same game and radically improve the whole engine and look to like a modern Zelda game.

Leo656 08-03-2022 03:04 AM

We should have someone head over and touch up the Mona Lisa while we're at it. Clearly she needs to have a bigger rack, just for starters.

Andrew NDB 08-03-2022 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1940390)
We should have someone head over and touch up the Mona Lisa while we're at it. Clearly she needs to have a bigger rack, just for starters.

That's a fundamental problem right there. These shouldn't and can't be for just us. You can't put a 12 year old kid in front of Ocarina of Time as it exists now... you know, if they've played modern sh**. I guess you could try and masque modern games from them entirely and just give them that. But otherwise Ocarina is uniquely a game that could be pretty accessible to new generations with a decent remake. I think. If they don't f*** with anything else around it. And hey, if you want to add some bonus dungeons and such, please do.

Also hey... where is my Link to the Past remake? With the Link's Awakening remake engine? This should have been brewing for a year now.

Turo602 08-03-2022 03:50 AM

Considering the sh*t kids play today, I really doubt a remake is gonna make them interested in Ocarina of Time. You're either a kid who enjoys those type of games or not and if you're a 12 year old in 2022 interested in The Legend of Zelda series, being a little old and ugly looking isn't going to stop them from playing it. Besides, we already got Ocarina of Time 3D. Upscale that to HD and port it to the Switch.

Prowler 08-03-2022 10:22 PM

The 3DS versions of Ocarina of Majora's are fine. No need to remake the games again.

If anything, I wonder why Nintendo never did something similar to Mario 64. Maybe the DS version of the game where you can play as 4 different characters counts. But the graphics didn't seem to get significantly improved. No idea about the gameplay.

As for the question itself... at this point I don't know. I feel like most of the major ones have been remastered already. Also, I don't agree about A Link to the Past needing a remaster, or any other SNES classic for that matter. Most of them aged pretty fine. No need to fix what isn't broken. If anything, remaster the Zelda Game Boy games. They already did that with Links Awakening. Might as well remake the Oracles as well.

Leo656 08-04-2022 10:01 AM

"BuT tEh gRapHicS aRe OLD aNd nObOdY yOuNg wIlL pLaY tHem!1!" :lol::roll:

I mean, anecdotally, I spent my weekend with my buddy's 10-year old all over me, and all he wanted to play was NES, Genesis and SNES games on his "Classics" plug-and-play consoles. Complete with turning on the CRT filter to make it "authentic". He also was VERY into classic gaming in general, like he knew what dates all the old consoles came out in America and Japan, all that stuff. Very sharp kid.

They exist. Maybe they're not the standard and maybe more kids today really are obsessed with the newest and shiniest games. But it's not universal.

Andrew NDB 08-04-2022 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1940517)
"BuT tEh gRapHicS aRe OLD aNd nObOdY yOuNg wIlL pLaY tHem!1!" :lol::roll:

Can you show me data that says otherwise?

Leo656 08-04-2022 11:05 AM

Only anecdotes, same as You. :)

Andrew NDB 08-04-2022 11:34 AM

"I believe MOST kids/teens prefer games with the latest graphics vs. graphics from decades ago" seems far less controversial to me than "I believe MOST kids don't care about graphics and if left to their own devices will just play any video games, even games from the 80s."

The only kids I ever met growing up who "didn't care about graphics" had parents who wouldn't buy them a NES (or a SNES), so they'd act super content with their Atari-Whatever.

Leo656 08-04-2022 11:53 AM

If I didn't know how old you are, I'd swear you were one of the same executives back in the 1990s who kept blocking the re-release of old Atari and NES games because "They're old and nobody cares." :lol:

Your personal biases show through strongly whenever this subject comes up. YOU are overwhelmingly in love with the newest and shiniest, therefore "everyone" is. Except it doesn't work that way, never has. Is the pool of kids who like "retro" games smaller than the pool of "spoiled brats" who "need" only the newest and shiniest? Sure. Nobody's disputing that. But you often outright come out with saying stuff like "NO kid will care about or tolerate _____" when all throughout the history of gaming we've seen otherwise.

I mean, you declared the new TMNT game "a flop" a year before it came out because "Nobody cares." Then it's a huge hit, and you say "Well, only old farts give a sh*t." Then countless anecdotes come out from parents who played it with their own young kids, and their kids loved it, and you counter with, "Well, MY kid got bored," as if that supersedes everyone else's experience. You can't "show the data" that proves Most Kids Are Your Kid, any more than anyone could prove that Most Kids Are My Friend's Kid. There is no hivemind of kids with a universal preference. And also, kids' tastes shift. A 6-year old who thinks the original Zelda is "dated and dumb" very well might become a 10-year old who loves it for what it is. That happens ALL the time, whether it's games, music, movies or anything. It's true many kids have an "Old Things are Bad because they're Old" phase, but many of them ALSO grow out of it and realize how dumb that mindset is.

Your perspective on retro gaming is very much "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" type of projection. YOU dislike "retro" stuff in games, YOU are a huge fan of shiny graphics and everything being "modern", and you feel so strongly about it that you cannot fathom how or why anyone would think differently. But they do.

It's probably true that the ratio of kids who'd rather play something Brand New than something 30 years old is skewed towards the former. But you constantly say outright that the latter doesn't exist at all, and that's simply false. Going "Eh, nah, I don't think so" doesn't stand as "evidence" of your position. You're just calling what you see from your vantage point, same as anyone else.

Turo602 08-04-2022 03:28 PM

When games like Minecraft and Among Us become as big as they do, especially with children, the whole "kids only like the best graphics" argument completely falls apart. GTA games used to look like sh*t too, especially by the time San Andreas came out, and that definitely didn't stop it from being one of the most popular games.

My nephew is 6 years old, and even though he has a Switch and plays modern games, he has no issue playing anything from the NES and SNES on the online subscription service because to him, it's just more Mario, Zelda, and Kirby to play.

ChosenOne 08-04-2022 03:42 PM

A Tomba! remaster would make me a very happy man(child).

Andrew NDB 08-05-2022 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1940537)
Your personal biases show through strongly whenever this subject comes up. YOU are overwhelmingly in love with the newest and shiniest, therefore "everyone" is. Except it doesn't work that way, never has. Is the pool of kids who like "retro" games smaller than the pool of "spoiled brats" who "need" only the newest and shiniest? Sure. Nobody's disputing that. But you often outright come out with saying stuff like "NO kid will care about or tolerate _____" when all throughout the history of gaming we've seen otherwise.

I'm not dealing in absolutes. A Sith never does that. I'm dealing in overwhelming averages.

You're a kid playing NES. SNES comes out. OOOOOOHHHH, 16 bit!!! Must have!!! PS1 and N64 comes out. OOOOOOOH, 32 and 64 bit!! Must have!!! And so on, and so on. What, this wasn't what you saw in Jersey with kids? I see no evidence that this general progression -- at large -- has ever changed course beyond the old people comprising a small but respectable pool of "retro gamers" that still buy games.

Turo602 08-05-2022 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1940625)
I'm not dealing in absolutes. A Sith never does that. I'm dealing in overwhelming averages.

You're a kid playing NES. SNES comes out. OOOOOOHHHH, 16 bit!!! Must have!!! PS1 and N64 comes out. OOOOOOOH, 32 and 64 bit!! Must have!!! And so on, and so on. What, this wasn't what you saw in Jersey with kids? I see no evidence that this general progression -- at large -- has ever changed course beyond the old people comprising a small but respectable pool of "retro gamers" that still buy games.

If you're gonna talk about modern tastes, it's probably best you don't look into your own past as a reference point. Tastes have changed drastically since you or Leo were kids and gaming has never been as accessible as it is today. You no longer actually have to play games in order to consume them or even have a dedicated gaming console.

Kids today watch other people play games on Twitch and YouTube and play dumb garbage on their parents' mobile devices and I'll tell you what they aren't watching or playing, the latest big triple A release with realistic visuals, lots of walking, and top notch storytelling. Who the f*ck needs that when there's Fortnite, Minecraft, and Roblox? Before that, it was Five Nights at Freddy's and Angry Birds. What, now we have Among Us and Fall Guys?

You wanted data, well how much accurate can it get than these type of games? We live in a post Shovel Knight world. Kids are growing up with retro looking games and retro experiences as the norm. This stigma only really exists with adults who grew up in our eras who still partake in dumb console wars and think they're getting the most "premium" experience by dick riding a console brand even though all they do is play Call of Duty and sports games.

Powder 08-05-2022 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 1940626)
You wanted data, well how much accurate can it get than these type of games? We live in a post Shovel Knight world. Kids are growing up with retro looking games and retro experiences as the norm. This stigma only really exists with adults who grew up in our eras who still partake in dumb console wars and think they're getting the most "premium" experience by dick riding a console brand even though all they do is play Call of Duty and sports games.

Bingo. Give the man a Cinnabon.


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