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Shark_Blade 01-18-2021 03:18 AM

Mortal Kombat (2021)
 
First look pics: https://www.empireonline.com/movies/...-movie-online/

Mortal Kombat is scheduled to be released in theaters and on the HBO Max streaming service by Warner Bros. Pictures on April 16, 2021.

Sumac 01-19-2021 05:54 AM

Looks a bit cheap, but we'll see how it looks in a final product.

I am more worried about story: according to it, the main protagonist is some Original Character named Cole and all other characters are kind of sort of in the background.

Well, they can't make it worse than MKAn, so...

frank_one 01-19-2021 07:24 AM

Can a Mortal Kombat movie possibly be good? James Wan is producing it so there's still hope but I wouldn't bet on it. The pics look ok.

AquaParade 01-19-2021 08:23 AM

The 1995 film is still my favorite video game movie by far. It may not be high art, but it does have some really cool cinematic moments, decent choreography, a pulsing soundtrack, and is overall just a lot of fun to watch if you are into the franchise. I've always loved Mortal Kombat outside of the games, so I'm looking forward to this.

sdp 01-19-2021 08:29 AM

I just know the women will have these SJW non-classic costumes because that's the current look of the franchise. As I mentioned before both Mortal Kombat movies have aged so let's hope this one is cool. MK Legends Scorpion was a retelling of the first tournament and it was good despite being from his perspective. I think it'll be hard to mess it up. And the fact that its not going to be in theaters might help it get a sequel since it won't be all about BO numbers.

Sumac 01-19-2021 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1876838)
I just know the women will have these SJW non-classic costumes because that's the current look of the franchise. As I mentioned before both Mortal Kombat movies have aged so let's hope this one is cool. MK Legends Scorpion was a retelling of the first tournament and it was good despite being from his perspective. I think it'll be hard to mess it up. And the fact that its not going to be in theaters might help it get a sequel since it won't be all about BO numbers.

Not that women in OG movie and MKAn had revealing costumes, so its kinda a moot point.

I wonder how they will calculate if movie was successful or not?
Does it mean critics would be even more important than before?

Leo656 01-19-2021 02:18 PM

Visually, it looks pretty good, so I'm definitely intrigued. But the whole "The main character is an OC and the plot revolves around them rather than anyone from the games" bit definitely reeks of the "Resident Evil" movies - which I never bothered to actually watch but have read a ton about, and I'm aware that they irritate the living hell out of game fans, for what sounds like very good reasons. So, that's kind of annoying. Why do they not feel like the in-game cast are enough? The excuse is usually some variant of "We need an Audience-Avatar character, someone the casual viewers can relate to as they go on this journey", but why can't Liu Kang or Johnny Cage be that? I don't get it.

I mean, we'll see what happens. Like two years ago the synopsis floating around was that the movie was gonna center around a couple of teenagers, so thankfully they've made some improvements since then. But this still might fall short. I really hope it's good, the world deserves a truly good MK movie. Not that the first one wasn't, but... well, the "flaws" have already been discussed to death.

CyberCubed 01-19-2021 02:52 PM

Wasn't the whole leaked script posted on reddit and people said it sounds terrible?

AquaParade 01-19-2021 03:12 PM

The original character protagonist doesn't really bother me, as I've never been invested in the particular character's story so much as I am the surface level mythology. The Sub-Zero & Scorpion rivalry can be played up a bit and other characters have interesting backgrounds, but I don't need those to be the focus.

Sumac 01-19-2021 04:32 PM

It irritates me, though, since MK have enough characters that can provide "everyman" perspective. Heck, first movie did it with Cage (albeit following original comic book, written by game's writer). And if that's not enough there are Jax, Sonya, Stryker. Even Kabal and Kobra (lol) can work.

There is a theory, that Cole will end up some significant MK character in the end (Cage or Sub-Zero Junior), but than I will be even less sure, why would they need this masquerade.

Andrew NDB 01-19-2021 04:59 PM

Yes... while I applaud the R rating (what a shocker! a Mortal Kombat movie that gets to have real Fatalities! it only took us 25 years) it is clearly very cheaply made. Like, it looks like some indie filmmakers made this with $10,000, local actors and After Effects.

Unless they're hidden in there, I'm not seeing any name actors in it. That means they're not really taking this seriously. C'mon, they need to at least have a Name for Johnny Cage or Rayden or something.

Leo656 01-19-2021 05:21 PM

Nah, I disagree. I generally (not always) hate that sh*t and find it distracting. Donner had it right when he was originally casting for Superman back in the 70s: "You can hire Dustin Hoffman and put him in a Superman costume, but people watching the movie won't see 'Superman', they'll just see Dustin Hoffman dressed up like Superman." I have similar problems with much of the MCU's star-studded casting; the performers very much outshine the characters they're playing. Like Tony Stark and Robert Downey Jr. have very little in common aside from facial hair, but now Stark just plain IS Downey in everything because the movie version overshadowed everything else.

It works alright SOME of the time but I definitely don't think you ALWAYS need a "name" to sell a project. That's ultimately only for the studios to try and recoup their investment because they believe the general audience only shows up to see movies with "names" in them. Maybe that's true of the super-duper casual audience but probably not true for the kind of audience that would pay to see a Mortal Kombat movie. I think the purists and hardcores would be very annoyed by that kind of thing.

I mean, we already kind of saw that when they had Rousey "play" Sonya in MK11. People hated it and found it distracting - "That's not 'Sonya Blade', that's just Ronda Rousey kinda-sorta playing Sonya Blade." Doesn't always work.

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1876917)
It irritates me, though, since MK have enough characters that can provide "everyman" perspective. Heck, first movie did it with Cage (albeit following original comic book, written by game's writer). And if that's not enough there are Jax, Sonya, Stryker. Even Kabal and Kobra (lol) can work.

There is a theory, that Cole will end up some significant MK character in the end (Cage or Sub-Zero Junior), but than I will be even less sure, why would they need this masquerade.

I agree. And I really hope that theory doesn't come to pass, that would be kinda sh*tty.

IMJ 01-19-2021 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by frank_one (Post 1876834)
Can a Mortal Kombat movie possibly be good? James Wan is producing it so there's still hope but I wouldn't bet on it. The pics look ok.

The first one was considered to be very good back in the day. I remember seeing it in theaters and people were blown away by what they pulled off. And then the second one came out and it was so exciting - until you were sitting in the empty theater watching that awful sequel feeling as if someone tricked you into coming to a party that no one was going to be at. LOL!

There were some MK web films a few years back that were pretty good actually. I'm looking forward to this new flick.

Andrew NDB 01-19-2021 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1876927)
Nah, I disagree. I generally (not always) hate that sh*t and find it distracting. Donner had it right when he was originally casting for Superman back in the 70s: "You can hire Dustin Hoffman and put him in a Superman costume, but people watching the movie won't see 'Superman', they'll just see Dustin Hoffman dressed up like Superman."

I don't mean an A-lister... but it needs some kind of star power. How about Scott Adkins for Johnny Cage? He's kind of king of B-movie action/martial arts movie. There you go -- bam, perfect Johnny Cage.

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I mean, we already kind of saw that when they had Rousey "play" Sonya in MK11. People hated it and found it distracting - "That's not 'Sonya Blade', that's just Ronda Rousey kinda-sorta playing Sonya Blade."
I think that's more because while Ronda Rousey has a "certain kind of charm" (at least, to me), she definitely doesn't look like this:

https://legacy.mortalkombatonline.co.../sonya/bio.gif

And fans know that.

Also, in the same game where suddenly all the female characters are "covering up," that making her more masculine and literally into Ronda Rousey was largely taken as just more PC crap.

The Deadman 02-18-2021 10:22 AM

Trailer is here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYH2...ab_channel=IGN

Storm Eagle 02-18-2021 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1880922)

Not bad.

Best Buy will be releasing a steelbook set with the first two movies on March 30th, which will also include a digital code.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/mortal-...0&mpid=1310690

I might get it so I can use the digital code, but it would be nice if they were released on 4K.

sdp 02-18-2021 10:44 AM

Movie looks very hollywood for better or worse, but we've seen the original Mortal Kombat story re-told so many times I'm ok with that.
I hope it's good, reminds me of Mortal Kombat Legacy a bit, I hope we get more stuff and create a new Mortal Kombat shared universe like in the 90s

IMJ 02-18-2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1880928)
Movie looks very hollywood for better or worse, but we've seen the original Mortal Kombat story re-told so many times I'm ok with that.
I hope it's good, reminds me of Mortal Kombat Legacy a bit, I hope we get more stuff and create a new Mortal Kombat shared universe like in the 90s

I feel like they took too many liberties with the ninja's costumes. Honestly, the web shorts from some time back where better than this.

Coola Yagami 02-18-2021 11:30 AM

This is gonna be cool. I don't think back in the 90s the world was ready for fatalities. You have to admit the idea of them was gorier than what the older games showed you. Back then kids played MK and we still had the 'adults shouldn't care about video games' stigma. Parents would be dragged to watch the movie with their kids and if they saw heads ripped off with glee they woulda put the kibosh on playing MK at home.


But now those kids grew up, gaming grew up, adults play MK and the fatalities of MK9-11 have gotten increasingly more violent and intense. Youtube won't even show fatalities of MK 11 unless they're black and white or done on inhuman characters with green blood. For or better or for worse we've gotten desensitized to MK by now so the world is more than ready for a R-Rated Fatality filled 'Sub-Zero stabbing someone with their frozen blood's craziness.

ZariusTwo 02-18-2021 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1880939)
But now those kids grew up, gaming grew up, adults play MK and the fatalities of MK9-11 have gotten increasingly more violent and intense. .

Blood and gore isn't "grown up" either.

Coola Yagami 02-18-2021 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1880950)
Blood and gore isn't "grown up" either.

No, but little kids probably shouldn't see Cassie begging for her life seconds before she's skewered and her eyeballs are yanked out and whatever else in a super-realistic fashion.

Leo656 02-18-2021 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1880950)
Blood and gore isn't "grown up" either.

:lol: C'mon, guy.

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Also, looks pretty good. The only thing that jumped out as kinda crummy was the abysmal CGI on Jax's arms. Should've just glued some prosthetics on him. Otherwise, pretty good.

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 1880933)
I feel like they took too many liberties with the ninja's costumes. Honestly, the web shorts from some time back where better than this.

Eh, I could do without Scorpion's hood, but they've each had 100 different costumes by now, anyway (including a phase where Sub-Zero looked almost exactly like Shredder, for some reason), so I'm over it.

As for the "Legacy" web series... that Raiden episode is all I want, forever. :lol: I loved that sh*t.

ssjup81 02-18-2021 01:26 PM

I still like the original Mortal Kombat movie. It wasn't bad for what it was and was close to the story and had elements from the first two games. Did it have issues...yep, most definitely, like "evil bad guy Scorpion" wasn't a bad guy, really and the fact that they didn't keep in Goro's actual fatality...but the bottom line is they pretty much kept to the story, the actors portraying the characters were good (I liked the casting), and it was overall fun to watch with a cool soundtrack which I still listen to to this day (I own the MK movie soundtrack on CD). Mortal Kombat Annihilation....doesn't exist in my mind...that fateful day in the theater its second weekend of 1997 never happened and I actually saved my $5 or $6 that day for the ticket. :P

Now, I knew of this upcoming film, but not the specifics. It looks like it'll be pretty cool and I hope that it does okay and will not only be about the gore part of the games. Character and story are a factor too. Going back to the original MK movie, with the exception of Goro, (and I did play the games at the time), I was so into the story and characters and atmosphere of the film, it didn't hit me that they didn't use a lot of gore and some of the characters didn't use their signature fatalities. My aunt pointed it out and I was like, "Hey yeah....you're right!" lol So yeah, I hope they don't make it a gore-fest just for the sake of having gore.

Having this center around an OC is a bit iffy with me and hope it doesn't come across like a fanfiction come to life. Junk like that makes me a bit nervous, especially with a video game adaptation, especially when you have a bit roster of characters to center around by this point. I guess, for me, I wouldn't want it to turn out like the Resident "Alice" series of films.

CyberCubed 02-18-2021 01:43 PM

Did they straight up replace Johnny Cage with some new fanfic self-insert character named Cole?

Whelp, that's it, I'm out. Johnny Cage was internal to the story of Mortal Kombat and the first tournament and if he's not there the movie is already ruined forever.

Coola Yagami 02-18-2021 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1880968)
I still like the original Mortal Kombat movie. It wasn't bad for what it was and was close to the story and had elements from the first two games. Did it have issues...yep, most definitely, like "evil bad guy Scorpion" wasn't a bad guy, really and the fact that they didn't keep in Goro's actual fatality...but the bottom line is they pretty much kept to the story, the actors portraying the characters were good (I liked the casting), and it was overall fun to watch with a cool soundtrack which I still listen to to this day (I own the MK movie soundtrack on CD). Mortal Kombat Annihilation....doesn't exist in my mind...that fateful day in the theater its second weekend of 1997 never happened and I actually saved my $5 or $6 that day for the ticket. :P

Now, I knew of this upcoming film, but not the specifics. It looks like it'll be pretty cool and I hope that it does okay and will not only be about the gore part of the games. Character and story are a factor too. Going back to the original MK movie, with the exception of Goro, (and I did play the games at the time), I was so into the story and characters and atmosphere of the film, it didn't hit me that they didn't use a lot of gore and some of the characters didn't use their signature fatalities. My aunt pointed it out and I was like, "Hey yeah....you're right!" lol So yeah, I hope they don't make it a gore-fest just for the sake of having gore.

Having this center around an OC is a bit iffy with me and hope it doesn't come across like a fanfiction come to life. Junk like that makes me a bit nervous, especially with a video game adaptation, especially when you have a bit roster of characters to center around by this point. I guess, for me, I wouldn't want it to turn out like the Resident "Alice" series of films.

To be fair, Goro didn't have a Fatality til like... Ulitmate MK3 or something.

Sumac 02-18-2021 04:14 PM

Trailer doesn't look bad, surprisingly.
I don't like that it is too serious and color corrections in sucks, but it doesn't look abysmal, so it is a step in a right direction.

Actors look nice, costumes don't look bad.

My main concerns are the story (in particular this Cole guy) and fights.

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1880982)
To be fair, Goro didn't have a Fatality til like... Ulitmate MK3 or something.

Goro didn't had Fatalities of his own until MK Deception (which is MK6).
You can did Fatalities with him in MK4 with a cheat code, but those were finishers borrowed from other characters (Reiko and someone else).

ssjup81 02-18-2021 06:38 PM

I thought that Goro had a move where he held you by his lower arms while beating your head in with the top ones in the first game? Not a fatality but I was expecting that.

Andrew NDB 02-18-2021 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1881036)
I thought that Goro had a move where he held you by his lower arms while beating your head in with the top ones in the first game? Not a fatality but I was expecting that.

Yeah, just have him do that but "carry it through." Until they're pulp.

TigerClaw 02-18-2021 07:44 PM

The new Goro looks great. The look of this one is better then the 1995 version which was an animatronic puppet.
I love the attention to details because he looks more terrifying.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...692&height=681

Coola Yagami 02-18-2021 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1881051)
The new Goro looks great. The look of this one is better then the 1995 version which was an animatronic puppet.
I love the attention to details because he looks more terrifying.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...692&height=681

True, but depending on the CGI and the actors, the animatronic puppet works a bit better because he's actually THERE and the actors aren't pretending to be afraid of either a guy in a mokap suit or just thin air.

Leo656 02-18-2021 08:26 PM

Stop-Motion Goro was awesome.

Powder 02-18-2021 08:46 PM

Trailer looks OK. Not super into it, but seems adequate.

Wildcat 02-18-2021 10:31 PM

It looks great. If you’re into MK. I’m happy to see most people liked the trailer. I was sure it would get some kind of dumb criticism because everything does. There’s some obviously but that’s normal.

Goro’s design is definitely better. He’s scarier but also more game-proportionate. I mean it always looked more like 2 arms tacked on to a stretched torso. Both cool but this was one is better.

I feel like the trailer spoiled a lot of deaths though. I guess you could predict them once you’re watching but they showed a lot.

TurtleTitan97 02-18-2021 10:48 PM

Movie looks like it'll be cheesy fun. I'm in.

Sumac 02-18-2021 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1881062)
Stop-Motion Goro was awesome.

He wasn't stop motion in the first movie, for the most part. :ohwell:

Leo656 02-19-2021 12:01 AM

Well whatever the f*ck it was, I liked it. :lol: Blew my mind when I was 12 or whatever it was.

Coola Yagami 02-19-2021 09:59 AM

Why wasn't Chun Li invited to Mortal Kombat?

IMJ 02-19-2021 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1881085)
Well whatever the f*ck it was, I liked it. :lol: Blew my mind when I was 12 or whatever it was.

He was literally a live action puppet! :lol: Stop-motion Goro! LOl lookin' like the Krakyn from Clash of the Titans with Harry Hamlin! LMAO!

Coola Yagami 02-19-2021 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 1881116)
He was literally a live action puppet! :lol: Stop-motion Goro! LOl lookin' like the Krakyn from Clash of the Titans with Harry Hamlin! LMAO!

To be fair in the actual video game, Goro was a stop-motion clay figure.

Sumac 02-19-2021 08:47 PM

Goro was a costume worn by an actor, except for his upper part which were animatronic dolls controlled by other people.

In game, yeah, Goro was a clay figure. Who was filmed with a "blue screen" glued by a duct tape. Talking about DIY.
https://dumeegamer.com/images/specia...ll/goro_02.jpg


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