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Autbot_Benz 03-09-2021 04:52 PM

Kathleen Kennedy is not being replaced says Disney CEO
 
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“We’ve been absolutely thrilled that we can have the kind of talent like Kathy Kennedy to direct Lucasfilm… We look forward to having Kathleen Kennedy running the Lucasfilm organization for many years to come.”
What is the Disney CEO Bob Chapek smoking cause I want some of that

https://collider.com/is-kathleen-ken...lm-reason-why/

sdp 03-09-2021 05:03 PM

I knew the "internal struggle civil war inside Lucas film" was all cuckservative fake nnews for the gullible and too good to be true.

Despite Star Wars earning millions of dollars, Solo, TLJ and ROS were clearly failures financially and critically which is why they backed out of their annual Disney Star Wars movies. But clearly there is no "civil war" or whatever and disney decided to stick with Kathleen Kennedy, so that's how it is, at least for now, anything else is rampant speculation.
Return of investment isn't calculated soley on profits, for s high risk high reward industry like hollywood they can't take chances.

Sumac 03-09-2021 05:35 PM

Sad.
It means SW will continue to suck (mostly).

Shark_Blade 03-09-2021 05:45 PM

She's made them billions of dollars and frankly the franchise under her watch has had more successes (Episode 7, Rogue One, all the shows except Resistance, other stuff like the books) than failures (Episodes 8 and 9, Resistance, and Solo).

They were never gonna fire her.

Galactus 03-09-2021 06:03 PM

The newer Star Wars movies aren't for me (the only one I really liked was Rogue One) but all but one have been huge financial successes. You could make a reasonable case that the one that didn't do big numbers (Solo) was the one to give all the ones baying Kennedy's blood exactly what they wanted. If I were Disney I'd look at that and be very happy with it.

Vegita-San 03-09-2021 06:05 PM

they are scared to fire her.

Plain and simple. and the civil war IS a thing.

For ****s sake, Kennedy's latest character is a ROCK named GEODE....

AquaParade 03-09-2021 06:18 PM

A lot of her success was inherited, so it's hard to say. You have to look at the trend within the timespan of her working on the property. I'm pretty sure there has been a decline in numbers, but I'm not 100% sure on that.

IMJ 03-09-2021 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San (Post 1883812)
they are scared to fire her.

Plain and simple. and the civil war IS a thing.

For ****s sake, Kennedy's latest character is a ROCK named GEODE....

Yyyyyuup.

And someone above said something about how she made them millions.
Anyone could've made Disney millions with Star Wars. Anyone. Yet she did it while managing to alienate or piss off most of the fanbase.

Don't feed your addictions if you have issues with any of this. Don't give Disney Star Wars a dime. I haven't - not since I saw the Last Jedi in theaters. That was it.

sdp 03-09-2021 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San (Post 1883812)
For ****s sake, Kennedy's latest character is a ROCK named GEODE....

https://64.media.tumblr.com/07302783...0997007d72.jpg

Vegita-San 03-09-2021 06:40 PM

that is far more creative. this is what we got
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GNXGApOv0VU/maxresdefault.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GNXGApOv0VU/maxresdefault.jpg

And it somehow pilots a ship called...'Vessel'.

Yeah, they are publicly spitting in our faces with this un creative crap.

Jester 03-09-2021 06:49 PM

"Geode’s true name could only be pronounced by those without a mouth.”

What?

Vegita-San 03-09-2021 06:51 PM

maybe it has a vibration language....I just put far more thought into it than they did.

TurtleTitan97 03-09-2021 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1883803)
I knew the "internal struggle civil war inside Lucas film" was all cuckservative fake nnews for the gullible and too good to be true.

The fact that people actually bought into those (quite frankly obvious) lies for so long was pretty sad.

CyberCubed 03-09-2021 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San (Post 1883812)
and the civil war IS a thing.

I like how someone with no inside knowledge of how anything at Lucasfilm or Disney works thinks there's some sort of "civil war" by people who are all millionaires as if this is someones personal fanfiction or indie movie.

Andrew NDB 03-09-2021 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1883803)
I knew the "internal struggle civil war inside Lucas film" was all cuckservative fake nnews for the gullible and too good to be true.

This doesn't mean there wasn't one. It just means she "won."

Leo656 03-09-2021 08:49 PM

If we've learned nothing else from following the development of numerous films over the last decade, there is ALWAYS an internal struggle or "civil war" going on behind-the-scenes at any studio.

Frankly, I'm amazed at this point that with all the nonsense going on, that any movie ever actually 1. Gets made, and/or 2. Is good.

Sumac 03-10-2021 01:39 AM

Much as I'd like to believe there is a "civil war", I think its scale and intensity are overrated. People might hate each other behind the scenes, but corporate money keep everyone together and silent.

No-one will go out of their to please relatively small group of old fans and lose their job and antagonize Pedowood establishment.

ZariusTwo 03-10-2021 06:20 AM

This is very much a P.R version of this


Galactus 03-10-2021 05:31 PM

I'm sure there has been some discussion on how there's some fans dissatisfied with the direction of the franchise but I'm positive the billions she's made them shuts that down pretty fast.

Vegita-San 03-10-2021 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1883840)
This doesn't mean there wasn't one. It just means she "won."

sadly, yes. companies are SO afraid of the big bad woke twitter mob, that they are willing to sacrifice reputation, money and power in order to win over twitter likes. it's honestly INSANE the levels they go to, when just 6 years ago, she'd have been fired at the first sign of mass failure or inability to lead. A guy would have been fired already.

Coola Yagami 03-10-2021 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San (Post 1884088)
sadly, yes. companies are SO afraid of the big bad woke twitter mob, that they are willing to sacrifice reputation, money and power in order to win over twitter likes. it's honestly INSANE the levels they go to, when just 6 years ago, she'd have been fired at the first sign of mass failure or inability to lead. A guy would have been fired already.

I seriously hate that Twitter has that much power. They literally have everyone by the balls.

Vegita-San 03-11-2021 07:13 PM

Twitter honestly needs to be shut down at this point. it's nothing but a cesspool of hate and angry teens

CyberCubed 03-11-2021 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San (Post 1884325)
Twitter honestly needs to be shut down at this point. it's nothing but a cesspool of hate and angry teens

Most people on twitter are 20-30+ year olds.

Galactus 03-11-2021 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San (Post 1884088)
just 6 years ago, she'd have been fired at the first sign of mass failure or inability to lead. A guy would have been fired already.

What were Kathleen Kennedy's failures again?

Andrew NDB 03-11-2021 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus (Post 1884331)
What were Kathleen Kennedy's failures again?

Not getting along with the director and electing to completely reshoot "Rogue One." Not getting along with the directors and electing to completely reshoot "Solo"... then having it fail (directly prompting Disney at large to cancel all of the non-trilogy Star Wars movies in pre-production). Total polarization of the fandom beginning with "The Last Jedi" and continuing into "The Rise of Skywalker" and the making of the brand semi-radioactive, as seen in the turnout for things like the ST-based Star Wars experience at Disney Land (yes, even pre-COVID). The only thing receiving any good worth of mouth is "The Mandalorian," with which she has slim to nothing to do with.

Galactus 03-11-2021 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1884333)
Not getting along with the director and electing to completely reshoot "Rogue One." Not getting along with the directors and electing to completely reshoot "Solo"... then having it fail (directly prompting Disney at large to cancel all of the non-trilogy Star Wars movies in pre-production). Total polarization of the fandom beginning with "The Last Jedi" and continuing into "The Rise of Skywalker" and the making of the brand semi-radioactive, as seen in the turnout for things like the ST-based Star Wars experience at Disney Land (yes, even pre-COVID). The only thing receiving any good worth of mouth is "The Mandalorian," with which she has slim to nothing to do with.

And you know what Disney's response to this is?

https://mlpnk72yciwc.i.optimole.com/...carl-barks.jpg

All the new trilogy earned over a billion. Rogue One earned close to that and even though Solo wasn't a huge success it still made a profit.

They don't care that some fans on the internet are unhappy. Even if we count Solo as a failure that's one movie in five, that's an impressive strike rate. The spin off movies were always a long shot anyway.

Like I said at the top of this the newer aren't really my thing but no one at Disney pays anything but a passing notice of the anti-Kathleen Kennedy movement. Her movies start failing then you'll see her replaced but not before.

Leo656 03-11-2021 08:24 PM

Ahh, the old "Stuff makes money even if it's garbage" defense, right on time. If only the trains were so predictable. And if only trains were still relevant. But I digress.

Insert standard "Transformers movies all made money, all still sh*t anyway" counterpoint. Poisoning your own brand for a fast buck is not a good long-term business model. But hey, "$$$" so all criticisms are invalid. Awesome.

TigerClaw 03-11-2021 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus (Post 1884336)
And you know what Disney's response to this is?

https://mlpnk72yciwc.i.optimole.com/...carl-barks.jpg

All the new trilogy earned over a billion. Rogue One earned close to that and even though Solo wasn't a huge success it still made a profit.

They don't care that some fans on the internet are unhappy. Even if we count Solo as a failure that's one movie in five, that's an impressive strike rate. The spin off movies were always a long shot anyway.

Like I said at the top of this the newer aren't really my thing but no one at Disney pays anything but a passing notice of the anti-Kathleen Kennedy movement. Her movies start failing then you'll see her replaced but not before.

Also there are the fans who don't really follow all the drama that's going on, and just watch the movies with there families.

Leo656 03-11-2021 08:28 PM

They'd have to be watching them with their eyes closed or an armful of black tar heroin not to notice how f*cking garbage they are.

Turo602 03-11-2021 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1884346)
They'd have to be watching them with their eyes closed or an armful of black tar heroin not to notice how f*cking garbage they are.

They notice, they just don't b*tch about them on the internet, they b*tch to their friends and family and move on but their money counts so they must have loved it.

Leo656 03-11-2021 08:46 PM

"The Last Jedi" was the only time I can remember actually walking out of a movie theater angry.

Yeah, they got my money, but they haven't since and possibly never will again. So... yay?

AquaParade 03-11-2021 08:53 PM

I was just sort of confused by the end of The Last Jedi, after all the praise it received. I figured it was an acquired taste, but I never really warmed up to it, for the most part.

frank_one 03-11-2021 08:53 PM

The goal for the revival of the brand was to gain new money and gather new fans. They got tons of money out of an horrible new trilogy, pissed off and lost older fans but regained most of them back with Rogue One and The Mandalorian. As far as NEW fans, I don't know: this could be their main failure.
All in all, I hate her :D but she hasn't done bad enought to deserve to be thrown out of the window, unfortunately.

Leo656 03-11-2021 09:52 PM

It seems like most of the "new fans" they made with "The Last Jedi" jumped off again when "Rise of Skywalker" didn't keep going in the same direction.

Which goes to prove that as suspected, Those People never really even cared about Star Wars. What they cared about, was hijacking Star Wars and turning it into a delivery system for SJW fluff. Once that train derailed, those people abruptly decided that they didn't actually like Star Wars after all. Which anyone could have called from a mile away. Like all those people who never cared about Ghostbusters but jumped on with the Chickbusters movie for no reason other than, "This pisses Real Fans off, and I like that, so I'm all-in." That's who the new Star Wars movies made happy, but almost nobody else.

They did manage to win back a few people, but the jury's still out on how many or if they'll stick around after the next inevitable misfire. I still haven't bothered with "The Mandalorian" and don't really plan to, and I have no faith whatsoever in them actually making a movie that's any good anytime soon. Plenty of people are in the same boat. There'd need to be a full housecleaning among the higher-ups before I'd feel comfortable putting my faith - or money - in the Star Wars brand again.

Sumac 03-12-2021 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Galactus (Post 1884336)
All the new trilogy earned over a billion. Rogue One earned close to that and even though Solo wasn't a huge success it still made a profit.

And damaged reputation of the SW movies in the process.
In other studios people responsible for this being replaced or fired. Like look at all **** which has happened with DC cinematic universe: even though movies were profitable, they still lead to cancelation of other projects and staff shake ups.

Andrew NDB 03-12-2021 06:26 AM

If they weren't aware and reactive to the extremely negative reception of SW films and their handling in a post-Last Jedi world we would still be getting 1 Star Wars movie a year. Starting with Star Wars: Boba Fett (which was already in production), then Han Solo 2, and Obi-Wan. And Rian Johnson's Star Wars trilogy would have been fast-tracked for sure, not just this thing many years later Kennedy likes to threaten the fans with occasionally when she's feeling particularly malevolent.

frank_one 03-12-2021 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1884367)
It seems like most of the "new fans" they made with "The Last Jedi" jumped off again when "Rise of Skywalker" didn't keep going in the same direction.

Which goes to prove that as suspected, Those People never really even cared about Star Wars. What they cared about, was hijacking Star Wars and turning it into a delivery system for SJW fluff. Once that train derailed, those people abruptly decided that they didn't actually like Star Wars after all. Which anyone could have called from a mile away. Like all those people who never cared about Ghostbusters but jumped on with the Chickbusters movie for no reason other than, "This pisses Real Fans off, and I like that, so I'm all-in." That's who the new Star Wars movies made happy, but almost nobody else.

They did manage to win back a few people, but the jury's still out on how many or if they'll stick around after the next inevitable misfire. I still haven't bothered with "The Mandalorian" and don't really plan to, and I have no faith whatsoever in them actually making a movie that's any good anytime soon. Plenty of people are in the same boat. There'd need to be a full housecleaning among the higher-ups before I'd feel comfortable putting my faith - or money - in the Star Wars brand again.

I agree with all of this. I myself have still never watched The Mandalorian. Sometimes I wonder if it's really good or it's just the fans so desperate and hungry for something more traditional and "comfortable" after being shocked by the new trilogy. That big badass Luke's cameo in the season finale wouldn't have worked so well if the character had not been totally destroyed by The last jedi :ohwell:

ZariusTwo 03-12-2021 07:53 AM

Mando could easily have been nerfed by the main character's babysitting duties and the domineering trinity of Gina, Sasha and Katie, but wasn't. The writing is very much on point and there's equality with all of the cast.

Vegita-San 03-12-2021 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1884435)
And damaged reputation of the SW movies in the process.
In other studios people responsible for this being replaced or fired. Like look at all **** which has happened with DC cinematic universe: even though movies were profitable, they still lead to cancelation of other projects and staff shake ups.

Bingo.

But, in this crazy SJW world, bad reputation, insulting fans, not listening to fans, actively telling fans not to buy their products..f iring people with viewpoints you don't like and supporting others with actively racist viewpoints....

Causing massive production problems...not paying attention to your job and wasting MILLIONS on reshoots and recasting and re directing. Actively trying to sabotage ANYTHING successful in the brand that you personally did not have a hand in doing...

need we go on?

This lady and anyone related to her agenda is poison. and it's infecting hollywood like a cult. Agents are actively telling their clients 'Think Left' even if you don't agree with it....so as to not get the cancel culture mob angry.

What they don't realize, is that the cancel culture mob HAS NO POWER unless they give it to them...because they do not buy or support your products.

it's mind bogglingly insane what is going on right now. and it was not this bad not even 4 years ago.

CyberCubed 03-12-2021 10:36 AM

They just turned their planned Boba Fett and Obi-wan movies into TV series instead. Boba Fett is now getting his own series, and we have a Obi-Wan series coming as well.

I remember a Yoda movie was being considered too but I wonder if that idea was changed to the baby Yoda in The Mandalorian.


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