Riot Season 2021
 

it’s like 2020 all over again. covid, racism, covid, racism, lockdowns, protests, lockdowns, riots. how can people still be so easily manipulated by the media? seriously, it’s like deja vu. the mainstream media fear mongering about covid, then when people start to realize covid is bs, bring on the race wars! it’s like they keep switching back and forth covid and racism. mainstream media narrative is extremely toxic to USA. most of the riots stopped for a while after the election, and the focus was covid again. now people are really tired of all the medical tyranny, so here we go again, black criminal gets shot by police and all hell breaks loose. this was a horrific week of blm and antifa terrorism. and if they let them get away with it last year, it will probably be worse this year.

prediction: now that riots are back in full force, the cdc or whatever tyrannical government agency will say covid cases are going up again cause of all the protests, and we need to lockdown again. f**k, when does this nightmare end? honestly i don’t see things ever going back to normal, unless something amazing happens and the corrupt government is overthrown. one can dream...

Excuse me, they're called peaceful protests....unless its a right wing group doing. Then they're riots.

Why are you talking about "corrupt government" over the actions being decided upon, committed to and put into action by our regular population?

This is a personal power issue.

I feel the same way, pal. It's a non-stop ride on a horrible rollercoaster. I want off already.

Or an insurrection. One that justifies having the National Guard at the ready in DC and a newly-built wall around the Capitol, 'cause walls are a good thing now, I guess. :roll:

I call it the Anger Games. The sequels are Setting Fire and Mockingjoe.

Speaking of wall building... Biden has quietly been continuing construction of the border wall. He's even been buying up people's property to see it through.

Since DemRATS truly scared of losing power.
But as a story goes, the more they try to keep the more they sabotage their own efforts.

*stealing it* really...

Is he really?
Very interesting. I admit that I've failed to keep up fully with politics this year outside of what is directly in my face.

Last I checked, the border crossing was more populated than ever since Biden got into office, so I suppose he had to do something. Very interesting though.

100%. Under the guise of "completing what funding was allocated for" despite saying over and over again all such would be shut down promptly.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pled...ry?id=76928099

So "no walls!" except when plugging holes in it? As in... the whole purpose of the wall to begin with?

The Democrats are disingenuous liars and their constituents are the easily-led, life-angry fools that in medieval England would've huddled around a feudal lord in small huts and been kept in check by a military presence.

Democrats position a border wall as "evil" during a Republican initiative in order to fire up their constituents in opposition. But during a Democrat-in-power period they quality go back to their agenda.

Republican agenda = security & order in logic.
Democrat agenda = oppression and power in logic.

Where are the forum mouth breathers now? Oh wait. They had no real position. They simply didn't like Donald Trump for personal psychology XYZ.... :roll:

$#!tbag liars.

They're all busy throwing parades because that cop got found Guilty of murder even though "murder" is a very specific term that in no way whatsoever applies to the situation he was found Guilty of. Anyone who's ever studied Criminal Justice can tell you that.

BUT... half the country would be on fire right now if any other verdict had been made, so... sacrifice One for the good of the Many, I guess, standards be damned.

There's people rioting in Ohio because of that one cop who had to shoot a child because she was getting ready to kill 2 other people. Damned if you do, damned if you dont.

I just want you to know that I laughed out loud, very hard at this. :tlol:

Ah yeah, I heard about that. I looked it up and saw some more about it.

Gotta love the girl's Mom saying her daughter "promoted peace" despite being caught on camera about to stab someone. :lol: They're ALWAYS "peaceful" until they're not, huh?

Sh*t happens. My wife called the cops on her Dad once when he pulled a knife on me. She had video on her phone. We met the cops outside, showed them the video, they ran into the house with their guns out. Because that's what procedure dictates. Nobody got shot, because he'd stashed the knife under his mattress by the time they got in there, but they still dogpiled him on the ground and dragged him out in cuffs. If he'd still been waving the knife around? They probably would've popped him for sure. They were prepared to if they had to.

These stupid protestors in Ohio with their "Hands up! Don't Shoot!" nonsense. Watch the f*cking video; she didn't have "hands up", she was literally in the act of attempting to stab someone. And in that case, you pop 'em. Because when things escalate to that point, the life of the perpetrator has now become less valuable than that of the innocent victim. Not only is that "procedure", it's the right thing to do.

"She was a kid!" Jesus, cry me a goddamn river.

It's crazy how divided we are on the political spectrum now. America feels comprised of two very different teams more than ever before, in my life at least.

Honestly, that's what I love about powerful art or entertainment becoming mainstream. Not just in America, but all over the world. It's a nice idea that despite all our differences, maybe we can all find noble values in the acts of a guy who dresses up as a Bat or a girl with a laser sword.

It's sort of silly from one perspective, but I think it's comforting that we have common ground somewhere and hopefully it can slowly help lead us to a similar place of understanding or common notions of right and wrong, in some small way.

My understanding was she herself called the cops cause the two other girls jumped her. She pulled a knife to defend herself. If all that's true, her mistake was not dropping the knife the moment the cops showed up.

Though, why didn't the cops just tase her? She had a knife, not a gun. Did they forget tasers were a thing?

It's like the George Floyd cop. Why not just cuff the guy the traditional way? I never ever seen police place their knee on people's necks. They just pin them down and cuff em, drag em to the police car. Done.

That's right. Every mouth breather would jump your $#!( for being more intellectual or more informed than they are for saying what you said here. But that fool is guilty of manslaughter - and guilty of it he is. But not murder.

Tasers don't always immediately immobilize people. If she was high on something like PCP she might have been able to "shrug it off" long enough to still stab the other person. Bullets leave less room for error.

I've always been fuzzy on the whole Floyd thing, as I've heard at least one version of the story where they HAD him in the car but then they let him out for whatever reason, but still had to keep him immobilized. As for why they "had to" keep him immobilized, again, he was clearly intoxicated and that's what procedure demands in such situations, because you don't know what they're on and drunk/high people are incredibly dangerous.

In either case, if Stupid People hadn't done Stupid Sh*t, they'd still be alive. People can spin that however they f*cking choose, THOSE are the hard facts. If that girl hadn't had a knife in her hands and was standing on the other side of the street, she'd still be alive. If George f*cking Floyd had been home reading his kid a book instead of out getting high and starting sh*t, he'd still be alive. People love to create "victims" and cry "racism" out of situations that are nothing more, or less, than Stupid People Doing Stupid Sh*t and in turn suffering the consequences of their actions.

Nobody should be making excuses for these people, EVER. The life of the perp is the one of LEAST value in these situations and the safety of every single other person involved, cops included, is of infinitely more importance than that of some violent lunatic who's usually drunk or high. But like Deadman pointed out, if the cops in that one situation had handled it any differently at all, that girl might've stabbed someone and then it's like, what? F*cking "oops"? No, man, you act like an idiot then you reap what you f*cking sow.

I grew up with a town that was absolutely rife with crackheads and domestic violence incidents. And yes, most of those incidents involved minorities. It was rare that anyone ever actually got SHOT by the cops, but on the rare occasion it did happen nobody batted an eye. Not even the "peers" of whoever it was that had gotten shot. What they would say was, "That's their own dumb fault, shouldn'ta done that dumb sh*t."

We've completely abdicated Personal Responsibility as a society and created victims out of criminals, and it's disgusting. Back in my day, it was cut-and-dry: "Don't Be A F*cking Idiot". NOW, you can do whatever the f*ck you want, be a crackhead, be a junkie, be a violent knife-swinging lunatic, and if something bad happens to you they'll throw you a parade and build statues in your honor, all the while screaming about "accountability" and "defund the police". It's stupid. We want the cops to be "accountable" for their actions, but not the f*cking scumbags they have to protect us from, those people get a pass. "Logic".

F*ck these people. Should'a been inside reading a goddamn book. Problem solved.

Yeah, like that's literally why the charge of "manslaughter" even exists. Cases like that one specifically. It's basically, "I didn't MEAN to kill him, but... oops." That's exactly what happened and that's exactly what "manslaughter" is.

"Murder" implies intent. Even second- or third-degree murder would suggest that the cop knelt on his neck purposely so that he WOULD die rather than just be restrained. In the case of third-degree it's a little bit murkier, because all that's necessary to fit that definition is "reckless disregard", but the term "murder" still implies intent.

And I - and a lot of people - have a VERY hard time believing that this cop - with a bunch of people watching and cameras on him and everything - MEANT to kill the guy by kneeling on him. I don't buy that at all.

Manslaughter would be applicable and acceptable. No problem there. Could've been more careful, and a guy died (who probably would have OD'ed anyway, but we're not supposed to dwell on that). So sure, charge and convict on manslaughter, the appropriate term. That's fine and fair.

The "murder" conviction was nothing more than serving the cop up as a "necessary sacrifice" so that a bunch of "progressive and well-meaning" people didn't "peacefully protest" a bunch of major cities into a smoking burnt-out husk. Any idiot could see it, and whether that was "necessary" or not, it still shows you exactly where we are right now. "We'd better convict this guy of a crime he technically isn't guilty of, or else."

But the cops are the Bad Guys. :lol: Jesus. I don't even particularly like cops, I just end up having to defend them because Obvious Bullsh*t Is Obvious and it gets on my goddamn nerves.

it’s all political
 

the reason they’re still protesting and rioting even after the guilty verdict, that’s just not good enough for blm. they want full abolition of the minneapolis police. these people are fu*king degenerate lunatics who don’t even work or contribute anything to society other than civil unrest. they have all the time in the world to organize these democrat funded blm protests (act blue /george soros funded), and get mad when a cop stops the crime in progress, which can only get worse with the criminal resisting arrest. maybe people should just stop breaking the law?

the other 3 officers involved in the george floyd case still have court cases coming up, you just know blm will be watching those trials like a hawk ready to bust out rioting as soon as they hear a verdict they don’t like. what’s worse is we got scumbags like maxine waters and nancy pelosi adding fuel to the fire, inciting violence, encouraging protests and glorifying these criminals, and the mainstream media and woke atheltes and celebrities all support it as well, they have an evil agenda to bring down the usa.

it’s obvious democrats don’t really care about black people, just look at joe biden’s history of segregation politics and the 1994 crime bill. they are just using black people for their votes and blaming everything racist on the other side, when in reality democrats founded the kkk.

Oh, Lord, don't get me started on Those Two. Throw Sharpton in there and you've got a Three-Ring Race-Hustler Circus.

Some people seriously aren't gonna be happy until a full-blown race war breaks out. When I was a kid, people used to warn me about it and I'd laugh.

I'm no longer laughing.

I'll confess I expected Minneapolis to be overrun in lawlessness and looting regardless of the outcome of the verdict in the Chauvin trial, so I guess this week is a win for humanity, all things considered.

But that's the thing, though; a guy got convicted of what's technically an erroneous charge, because The Powers That be knew that it was the only way to keep those "peaceful protestors" from burning Minneapolis to the ground.

What the F*CK does THAT say? "We know what's Right, but we have to do what's Wrong so that certain people don't throw a fit"?

That's not "Justice". "Justice" would be, you convict on manslaughter and let that be "good enough". "Nah, those illiterate chucklef*cks with the bricks and tiki torches aren't gonna have the patience for nuance and distinction; it's 'murder' or we're all in serious trouble." Except he wasn't guilty of murder.

OJ walked because of "reasonable doubt". Even though no, there wasn't. Because The Powers-That-Be knew what would happen if they convicted him. "We gotta let him walk, Or Else." Same thing in reverse. "It's the wrong charge, and we have Maxine out here telling people to riot if the verdict isn't exactly what they want... but we can't rule a mistrial, and we can't settle for manslaughter. HAS to be murder... Or Else."

Things really, REALLY shouldn't be this way.

I was too young to remember the full details on the OJ Trail. At the time why was it a 'we gotta let him walk, or else' situation?

Because Every Single Black Person In America decided the second they saw the Bronco chase on TV that it was all a set-up. "That guy was a Super Bowl Champion, he couldn't kill anybody! We seen him on TV!" The Rodney King riots were still fresh in everybody's mind, and Black America was basically making some not-too-subtle "hints" during the entire trial that if OJ got convicted, it was gonna be ten times worse than the King riots, nationwide.

Especially after it came out that Once Upon A Time, one of the officers involved had said The N-Word, therefore the entire investigation was forfeit. "CLEARLY this whole thing is just a set-up to put an innocent black man in jail, because the LAPD has nothing better to do than frame celebrities for murder by planting DNA evidence and then going on extended televised car chases. That's OBVIOUSLY what's happening, here."

So OJ cut his ex-wife's head off, stabbed her boyfriend a million times, left his own blood at the scene and walked away with it. Because "If you put him in jail, that's Systemic Racism and we won't stand for it."

Look, racism is Bad. But it isn't worse than killing people, I'm sorry. But to some people, it is. And Those People have way too much power in the current societal climate. But again, we've been heading in that direction for a very long time.

If they don't riot right away, they will anyway when he appeals the verdict, which he can do because of manipulative, horrible people like Maxine Waters.

And what's more?

If you ask me, she was doing it as a double en tendre. She knew that it would rile her constituents up now, and she knew that she was creating an appeal situation for that fool cop so that when he appeals and gets a new verdict that she can do it again and call it "injustice" when in fact she created the opening for it, possibly by design.

So help me, I believe that she actually did that on purpose as a method for furthered "justified anarchy".

I wouldn't doubt it. Didn't the judge even say out loud that her comments opened the door for the cop to appeal?

He already had a case for appeal ANYWAY based on the dodgy interpretation of the word "murder" in this case, but even more now.

Either it was what you're saying, OR Maxine's a complete idiot. I can actually believe either!

Yes. It does seem like your politics are more similat to sports rivalries than actual politics. I wonder if it's due to you having bipartisan system. Your other political parties are too small and insignificant to count.

In most other democratic nations there's several different parties. And whole there's always 2 or 3 bigger owns that tend to win most elections, medium and smaller sized parties can get some power by forming coalitions with the larger parties.

I dunno if it's so practical for USA to essentially have two political parties and anyone with political aspiritons having to decide between those two only. How did your system turn out so bipartisan anyway? It's almost like they're more like two major rival companies like Coca-Cola and Pepsi instead of simply political parties.

A lot of it has to do with people only being comfortable with the ILLUSION of choice. They get confused and intimidated by too many options.

Part of it is also tribalism, the inherent need to "belong" and be part of the In Crowd. That's a huge part of American culture, being part of "The Right Group". All of that gets diluted if there's too many "tribes" to choose from.

And then of course there's money. It's really the corporations who dictate policy by brib- errr, "lobbying" the politicians. They prefer to keep things nice and neat and not spread that money around more than they have to because it's just easier that way. Too many parties and competing interests would make it a lot harder for them to "lobby", so everything gets forced into just two boxes.

It's all kind of just a big scam built to keep up appearances and let people think they actually have a say in anything. If voting actually mattered, they wouldn't let us do it.

It's funny cuz your politics are similar to football rivalries in Europe while our politics are more similar to your sports rivalries. You look at videos from American stadiums and arenas and the fans are a lot quieter and peaceful while in most of the world you have football fans fighting or sometimes even killing each other :lol:. It seems like you guys prefer saving that for politics instead.

Well that's smart from the big 2 parties in a business sense. They've somehow managed to build a monopoly. They're clearly more of a business than political parties.

Another thing that's strange... apparently both parties "switched"? Before the 60s or something Republicans were left-wing and Democrats right-wing. What?

This is actually factually incorrect.
The Lunatic Left says this all the time but it did not happen.

The left is pro slavery (government assistance), kkk (race based groups) and control. To some extent the political right is also pro control, too though.

My memory is so foggy on that, unless there was some time between the two events. I remember shows like In Living Color bringing up the Rodney King thing, and I was a little one back then still in the states. But I also seem to recall living in Mexico during the time we heard the occasional news report about how the OJ trial was going. Hmmmm.

Roughly two years apart, so the King incident was still an open wound for a lot of people. And the riots were still a frequent topic of conversation, and the OJ thing just exacerbated everything.

I was only like 12 myself but it was impossible to avoid. It was all over TV, everybody's parents were hooked on the trial coverage, shows like Roseanne were making jokes about it, it was all over the magazines at the grocery store and the 7-11... even if you weren't trying to pay attention it was pretty hard to ignore. Even the kids at school all had opinions; more so the black kids than the white kids. Suddenly these 10-12 year old kids were all legal experts who would lecture you at length about how "OJ couldn't possibly be guilty" because "My Dad says all cops frame black people" and "It's all part of the White Conspiracy, they couldn't take down Michael Jackson so they're gonna try and take OJ away from us." I'm dead serious. You couldn't make this sh*t up if you tried.

Not exclusively the black kids, though, just mostly. Most of the white kids either didn't give a sh*t, or only really cared at all because their parents were always talking about it, and like most sane people they felt like he was guilty. But I remember vividly I was at recess the day the verdict came in, one of the (white) kids heard it on the radio or something and started running through the playground yelling "OJ's going home! They said 'Not Guilty'! He's free!" And then the guidance counselor (who was also the recess monitor) pulled him aside in front of everyone on the playground, looked him in the eye and very sternly said loud enough for everyone around to hear, "What the hell is wrong with you? The guy killed two people and got away with it. This isn't a joke. Nobody should be happy about this. It's not a goddamn joke. You're happy that he got away with murder? You ought'a be ashamed of yourself." That kid was the biggest loudmouth in school, and that was the first and last time I ever saw him speechless; he looked like he wanted to crawl in a hole and disappear.

That was one of the first times I remember a criminal openly playing the race card to get out of taking responsibility for something they very obviously did, but nowadays it's become standard operating procedure. In hindsight, it should have been very easy to predict. It was just that back then, people kind of assumed that OJ's money got him off the hook. "It wasn't JUST because he said the cops were racist, that wouldn't be enough to make people think he didn't kill those people."

But yeah, turns out that really IS all you need to say to flip the script and get all the heat off of you. You can be a rapist, a terrorist, a pedophile or a murderer. But if you say "THAT other guy's a racist, though," all your sins are forgiven.

You can even jam a loaded gun into a pregnant woman's stomach and threaten to pull the trigger during a drug-fueled home invasion, and people will spin a "Cops Are Racist" narrative and build statues in your honor if you die under regrettable circumstances. Just ask ol' Floyd. I bet the woman he tried to shoot (and her kid, however old they are now) don't think he's a martyr or a hero or a "pillar of his community"; but oddly enough, nobody ever asked them what THEY think. Shocking.

Yeah, over a century ago. The Democrats used to occupy the political spectrum position where the Republicans are today, and vice versa. In the same way a century ago, pink was the colour for boys and blue was the colour for girls. Things change, and they do. So while it's factually correct to say the KKK was likely set up by then supporters of the Democratic party, if the same happened today it would be members of the Republican party instead.

Today's BLM protests and argument for equality, isn't actually too far from what suffragettes did here a hundred years ago to fight for equality. Read up about what some of them did if you are unfamiliar. There are compelling parallels.

OJ's trial was on the news worldwide. I was a toddler when it happened, so no way I can remember it, but my mother told me it was frequently on the news here in Portugal as well.

OJ Simpson is the only American football player to achieve worldwide "fame", and it's because of everything else instead of what he did in that sport lol

Mayhem: BLM come more across as lobbyists to me than people fighting for equality. I don't have much sympathy for that movement.

Two years sounds about right. I remember moving to Mexico round the time In Living Color stopped being funny cause most everyone except maybe Carrey left the show.

Yeah...BLM is...

Like I agree with the statement, but not the organization.

Them trying to guilt people and celebs into donating, then using the money to buy mansions and **** rather than you know.... Actually helping the problem. Like ok, I know most of you don't care about celebs or Lady Gaga but it rubbed me the wrong way seeing everyone get all up in her face forcing her to admit she agreed with BLM as they had their fingers on the CancelGaga button if she dared say no or be indifferent to it. Leave her the **** alone.

I agree with a YouTuber I disagree with often, BLM gets away with ALOT due to their name. It's almost impossible to say you don't agree with them without sounding like a racist. What, are you saying black lives don't matter??? Then these incidents like 'I thought my gun was the taser' and whatnot keep happening to continue to escalate the issue.

These are things I keep out of my FB and social media cause I'd be cancelled to hell and back and lose ALL my friends. Cause again, it sounds racist to say you disagree. But like how are the founders buying expensive new cars with donation money helping the cause?

Bingo, Coola. The problem is the movement. Of course black people's lives matter. As do the lives of people of any other race. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with the way BLM operate.

Yes, it's ridiculous. I'm not afraid of getting cancelled on FB because most people in my country don't care about BLM. But on twitter I follow a lot of Americans and British people and vice versa. So I bite my tongue and don't mention anything about BLM or politics in general, because I just know someone would try giving me **** for it and misinterpret my statements.

The problem is also the BLM organization itself. Which, among other things, includes "dismantling the nuclear family" as part of its mission statement. And now their higher ups are getting in trouble for buying themselves expensive mansions from the donations coming in.

Wait what? What do they mean by "dismantling the nuclear family"? Isn't that the problem of a lot of black people living in poverty in the US? The fact they often live in single mum homes? So why is BLM trying to make the problem worse?