Metroid 5: Dread
 

Interesting that they're calling it "Metroid 5." I guess... let's ignore Prime 1-3, The Other M, and call Fusion part 4?

My understanding is that they are numbering them based on the side-scrollers, even though the other games fit into the timeline.

1 - Metroid
2 - Metroid II: Return of Samus
3 - Super Metroid
4 - Metroid Fusion

But anyways, SO EXCITED. I need to revisit all of the first four.

The original Metroid was one of those games that you could play on the NES station in Sears at the mall, and since we didn't have an NES at home (until a few years later), I would spend SO MUCH time playing that thing.

Metroid Fusion was called Metroid 4 in the opening of the game. The Prime series is a sub series that can but doesn't have to exist within the main line series which is the side-scrollers.

Regardless, this made my E3. Halo and Zelda were great, but 19 f*cking years waiting for this one. I even remember back when rumors and reports were coming about for a Metroid Dread and being so disappointed at the lack of 2D Metroid post GBA. I liked what Mercury Steam did with Samus Returns on the 3DS and despite injecting so much new life into 2D Metroid, I still felt it was limited by being a remake of a Gameboy game. So I'm definitely excited to see what they can do with a completely new game.

Looks pretty cool. I was vocally not in love with the original game when I finally played it all the way through for the first time several months ago - although I didn't hate it, just felt that it was "old school" in some of the worst ways but otherwise it's still "good". People tell me that's pretty much the worst game in the series, or at least the most annoying from a gameplay perspective, so I remain intrigued.

I still haven't played the others, yet, but I will. And I'll be picking this up eventually, too, most likely.

Looks good but I don't like the suit's design/color scheme.

I slept through the amiibo pre-order window yesterday so, pretty bummed about that.

Looks interesting.
I can't decide, whether I like this color palette or not. It certainly looks very distinct, but I am not sure, if I like how desaturated some locations look.

But anyway, new side-scrolling Metroid is better than no Metroids of any kind.

Also, yes, Fusion is Metroid 4.

Oh, that's easy to explain. Going chronologically:

• Metroid = Metroid 1
• Prime = Metroid 1.1
• Hunters = Metroid 1.1.1
• Prime 2 = Metroid 1.2
• Prime 3 = Metroid 1.3
• Federation Force = Metroid 1.4
• Metroid II = Metroid 2
• Super Metroid = Metroid 3
• Other M = Metroid 3.1
• Fusion = Metroid 4

Every entry aside from the original two, Super and Fusion are interquel side-stories. Only those four actually progress the story, the others just fill the gaps.

I missed my chances too, but hopefully they'll be in stores when the release date comes.

It might have gotten announced yesterday, but I didn't think stores would start taking preorders so early. I was on my phone yesterday and I caught the preorder for it on Best Buy's site, but then I decided to preorder it on my laptop since I already had it ready. By that time, they stopped taking preorders.

I almost got it on Target, but preorders sold out by the time I got to the part where I pay. Then I forgot all about GameStop until I saw a tweet saying they were taking preorders, but I missed my chance there too.

Amazon's listing is up, but it's still inactive and will probably go active later today. Wal-Mart has yet to list it on their site as well.

I'm glad a new 2D Metroid is coming but what has been shown doesn't impress me. Those rooms and corridors are aseptic not as organic as I would expect from a Metroid game. Every surface seems to be made of plastic. Damn, there are indie games out there that looks better than this, more metroid-like than this official one. I hope they are still working on it.

Yeah, fusion is called 4 in the title screen of the game
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Prime was always considered a spin-off and "non-canon" since it was made by gaijins, especially when Other M was announced they stated that "yeah sure it happened but we won't reference and might contradict it" and Other M was meant to be an "official" spin off. Of course Other M failed and now it might not be canon or is in that "well it happened but we'll ignore it" and Prime got upgraded to "official spin-off" technically canon. Both Prime and Other M have things that don't fit 100% but meh, it can fit just fine, purists/fans just read too much into interviews on whether something is "real" or not in a fictional universe. I get it if it outright contradicts it, but just because character behaved like you wouldn't expect him to doesn't mean it's non canon. (Yes, even if it means Disney ruins Luke)

This all coming from the guy who takes Scooby-Doo continuity 100% seriously.

The 2D Metroids were always numbered. Metroid Dread was originally leaked in 2005, then Prime 3 had a pirate log saying "Metroid Dread is nearing completion" in 2007...and now here were are 15 years later.

It's obvious most people here know nothing about Metroid history. The Metroid Prime games take place before Super Metroid, and Metroid Other M takes place right after Super Metroid.

The games are:

Metroid/Zero Mission
Metroid II: Return of Samus
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2
Metroid Prime 3
Super Metroid
Metroid: Other M
Metroid Fusion
Metroid Dread

Metroid Prime 4 could take place wherever. There's also Metroid Prime Hunters on DS which introduced all the bounty hunters.

Scooby canon is serious business, only scholars need apply. Any lore chump can piece together Metroid.

Huh, I forgot that.

Unfortunately Metroid has never been as big a seller as Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Pokemon, etc....so that's why despite it being a 30+ year old franchise that began in 1986 it doesn't have as many games as the other Nintendo franchises.

Nintendo generally keeps Metroid alive out of goodwill to hardcore Nintendo fans. It's a shame the Metroid Prime games didn't sell as well as they could of, Metroid Prime 1 only sold over 2 million and that's it, but again they were stuck on the Gamecube for awhile. Even Metroid Prime 3 on Wii didn't sell more than 1 million.

The irony of those low sales (and the general lack of 2D Metroid) is that Metroid is one of the most influential series of video games ever made.

Symphony of the Night, Cave Story, Ori, Hollow Knight, Shadow Complex, Cave Story, Steamworld Dig, Chasm, Axiom Verge, Zordak, A Robot Named Fight, Ghost 1.0 and the list just goes on. It is crazy how many games copies the gameplay of Metroid. And not so much in terms of gameplay but Black Mesa seemed to ignore what Xen was in the original Half-Life, just so it could homage the visuals and music of Metroid Prime instead.

The good thing about Metroid is that it doesn't appear to be a very expensive series to make. Even the Prime games. Fairly rudimentary.

The games themselves aren't groundbreaking in any way, They all play the same, You just have better graphics.

You left out one and this is the proper order.

Metroid/Zero Mission
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2
Metroid Prime 3
Metroid Prime: Federation Force
Metroid II: Return of Samus
Super Metroid
Metroid Other M
Metroid Fusion
Metroid Dread

What about the remake of Metroid II? Wasn't that a thing?

The Primes really were before Metroid II?

Not groundbreaking? I don't understand what you're talking about.

The gameplay of the Metroid series is the foundation of the entire Metroidvania genre. Countless games, a small sample of which I listed in this thread, have used them as a basis and built upon them. Castvania, a series as old as Metroid itself, was restructured to emulate Super Metroid's gameplay. Even within the Metroid series itself, Super Metroid is a giant leap ahead of the first two clunky Metroid games. And maybe you could argue that Fusion and Zero Mission didn't change much from Super Metroid, but Samus Returns clearly revised the gameplay in an attempt to improve it. Metroid Prime being a first person shooter is obviously a big change but not only that, gameplay and controls are drastically different from from other FPS games, especially FPS on console. One might even argue Metroid Prime helped legitimise the FPS on console. Then the other Prime games did add new machanics to the gameplay. And Other M, as controversial as it may be, didn't play it safe by copying either the 2D games or the Prime games.

"Not groundbreaking" and "only better graphics" my ass! You sound like you're talking about chess simulators.

I should have added the remake, But its the same game anyways.
Also the Prime games took place after Metroid.

Not groundbreaking in the sense that its been the same style of game since day one. You could argue that Metroid Prime was groundbreaking by taking that metrovania style to the 3D realm. I have Metroid Prime on the Gamecube, I tried to play it, But wasn't quite feeling it because the first person side of it was too much for me, The best experience I had with a Metroid game was Metroid Other M, I liked that it was 3rd person mostly, and I wish they made more Metroid games from a 3rd person, I'm not a fan of the first person stuff.

Most games in the same franchise are iterations of the same genre, that's why they're the same game franchise. Prime 1 is excellent.

That is quite an unusual opinion, given the praise and popularity Metroid Prime enjoys, while Other M might be the single most despised entry in the franchise.

Other M isn't really that bad, not sure why people hate it. It's not an amazing game perhaps but it isn't bad, it's a good game. I think people just hate the story and samus speaking but not being a badass so they blame it on the game.

I loved the first Prime game, never beat the second one since I got filtered halfway through the game. I got bored and never finished the third game. I really liked the arena multiplayer DS game and even Prime pinball. Federation Force is also good, people only hate it because it doesn't star samus. I never played the Metroid 2 remake, but I'm guessing it's good? The GB Metroid 2 is pretty fun inspite of the limitations, I always thought it was a shame they wasted the story of "going to the metroid planet" on the GB since it's a simpler system but the remake should've fixed that.

Samus should've kept the green hair, she's an alien, I hate that she is blonde.

Find "Consensus", and on the polar opposite side of the room, you will always find TigerClaw. :lol:

Seriously, though, I bet I'll like Other M more than most people when I finally do play it. Might not love it, but in general whenever people rage against a thing I end up being a lot less harsh about it, so that's what I expect to happen in that case as well. Especially since I have neither any romantic nor nostalgic love for the franchise as a whole, so the things people always rage about probably won't affect me much, or at least not to the same degree.

If you're new to the franchise play the games in release order. Metroid 1, Metroid 2, then Super Metroid on SNES, then Metroid Prime on Gamecube and Metroid Fusion on GBA (both came out in 2002 at the same time), and so on and so forth.

It's a great way to see how the series evolved over 30 years.

I used to have Prime 1. Got fairly far but got stuck at a certain point. Something about a big chamber with lava around... and metal corridors leading to a center section while stuff is firing at you from all around. Couldn't figure out what to do for days so just gave up.

While literally ZERO Metroid games are available on Switch's store, I do see the key ones that I wouldn't want to emulate (the Prime trilogy, Other M) are all on the Wii U store so I should be set.

Zero Mission is the same as Metroid 1, isn't it?

I thought she was human from an Earth colony. First time I hear of her being an alien, aliens in the series tend to look far less human.

More or less the plan. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I own 'em all I've just only played the original, so far.

The ones I've always been most intimidated to try were the Prime games, since first-person view games seriously used to mess with my eyes and occasionally I'd even get a little sick. But for whatever reason that hasn't been the case most of the time ever since I played "Bioshock Infinite" a few years ago. So I feel a lot more confident about giving those a try, nowadays.

Well I know she's blonde/brunette in the ending but I never beat it as a kid but I did use the Justin Bailey password where you play as samus without a suit so to me having green hair and a purple suit was who Samus was until the Metroid Prime games.



Yes zero mission is Metroid 1 along with bonus mission. it includes a map and overall brings it up to modern standards so people say it's the way to play the original game.
The original game filters pretty much everyone, there's no map, no way to save and all zones look very similar.
Metroid and Super Metroid are on the switch online NES/SNES app for free if you pay for online. Prime Trilogy was rumored to come out on Switch but apparently that was false or at least it won't happen for a while. Other M will likely not see rerelease unless it's a VC type service since everyone hates it besides TigerClaw ;)

What is the "bonus mission"?

Metroid Prime didn't do it for me because of its first person view. I'm used to Metroid being a 2D platformer, Prime tried to do platforming in 3D, But it just feels more like a first person shooter then a platformer. The 3rd person stuff only happens when your a ball. I liked Other M because it was mostly 3rd person, It only went forst person when you were shooting the missiles.

I owned Other M eons ago as well... I seem to remember liking it. No idea why I stopped playing it.

The Prime games aren't shooters at all (despite having shooting), they're basically puzzle/exploration games in 3D. When Metroid Prime first came out back in 2002 everyone tried comparing it to Halo for some reason, and then when people played Metroid Prime they realized it wasn't anything like a FPS at all.

I remember spending decades on IGN boards back in the early 2000's arguing on the Gamecube boards about this.

Yeah, Metroid Prime is a first-person adventure game. Yes, you shoot, but you do that in the original games as well and those were never considered shooters. But I never did take the same liking to the Prime games as most have either because third-person really does suit Metroid a whole lot more than first-person. Exploration, platforming, and all her cool abilities pretty much demand a third-person view. Metroid was just unfortunately stuck with first-person because Miyamoto had some fetish for a first-person view at the time after he failed to do it in Ocarina of Time.

I seriously recommend playing the remakes though. No one should ever go back to Metroid 1 and 2 after Zero Mission and Samus Returns. Super Metroid was a much needed improvement/revamp of the original game's groundbreaking concept and just absolutely made those games obsolete.

Metroid Prime is a masterpiece. Prime 2 has some pacing problems with the dark world concept, as it's pretty taxing to get through the dark world portions. Prime 3 was the most "action oriented" and definitely felt closer to a shooter than the first two, but it does open up to the usual exploration after.

The Metroid Prime trilogy is still up on the Wii-U e-shop for $20, so for those of you who still have Wii-U's you can buy it digitally there.

Yeah, that's what I'll do. The Prime games are really the only ones that don't make much sense to emulate, due to the controls.