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sleeplessknight 08-17-2021 03:42 PM

April O'Neil comes out as pansexual.
 
At least her actress does anyways. But I can see the character identifying as such as well. I can see her being able to fall in love with all genders... and certain purple bandanad turtles.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...140740777.html

Sumac 08-17-2021 03:56 PM

Old joke, but I don't know what is so interesting about sex with kitchen utensils.

TigerClaw 08-17-2021 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sleeplessknight (Post 1902431)
At least her actress does anyways. But I can see the character identifying as such as well. I can see her being able to fall in love with all genders... and certain purple bandanad turtles.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...140740777.html

I can totally see April being pansexual given how shes been hanging around mutants all the time.

Andrew NDB 08-17-2021 04:27 PM

"Pansexual" is really a strange thing. Since they're not bisexual (which they can't be, right? since whether we bring transgender people into the equation, we're supposed to look at them as one gender or the other, right?) the general definition seems to be "they're sexually attracted to/will f*** anything."

So... yeesh. Animals and small children, too? Where is the line, exactly?

CyberCubed 08-17-2021 04:48 PM

Here's the definition:

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Pansexuality is sexual, romantic, or emotional attraction towards people regardless of their sex or gender identity. Pansexual people may refer to themselves as gender-blind, asserting that gender and sex are not determining factors in their romantic or sexual attraction to others. Wikipedia
I dunno, kinda sounds like the same thing as bisexual to me? Meaning attracted to both men and women?

mrmaczaps 08-17-2021 05:18 PM

Mae Whitman.

No one needs to click the link now. :tlol:

IndigoErth 08-17-2021 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1902441)
I dunno, kinda sounds like the same thing as bisexual to me? Meaning attracted to both men and women?

Same I was just wondering. What's the difference then?

Unless they think bi people aren't "blind" enough...?

neatoman 08-17-2021 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1902438)
"Pansexual" is really a strange thing. Since they're not bisexual (which they can't be, right? since whether we bring transgender people into the equation, we're supposed to look at them as one gender or the other, right?) the general definition seems to be "they're sexually attracted to/will f*** anything."

So... yeesh. Animals and small children, too? Where is the line, exactly?

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1902441)
Here's the definition:

I dunno, kinda sounds like the same thing as bisexual to me? Meaning attracted to both men and women?


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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1902455)
Same I was just wondering. What's the difference then?

Unless they think bi people aren't "blind" enough...?


... How about this:
  • If you are a heterosexual male, you are attracted to female anatomical features (breasts, vagina, etc).
  • If you are a Homosexual male, you are attracted to male anatomical features (beard, penis, etc).
  • If you are a Bisexual male, you find both male and female features attractive.
  • If you are a pansexual, the features are neutral but you still have a sex drive and don't mind wheter your partner is male or female.

In practice there is no difference between a bisexual and a pansexual but the underlying psychology is different.

CyberCubed 08-17-2021 06:12 PM

Technically aren't bisexuals also only female? I've never heard of a male bisexual. If a man has sex with another man, he's gay for life. There's no going back.

neatoman 08-17-2021 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1902463)
Technically aren't bisexuals also only female? I've never heard of a male bisexual. If a man has sex with another man, he's gay for life. There's no going back.

Are you talking about social perception here or is that something you really believe?

CyberCubed 08-17-2021 06:28 PM

I mean a man can sleep with both a woman and another man, but once he "goes gay" it's pretty obvious he's gay. Even if he dates another woman after. Then the bisexual aspect disappears and it becomes a gay man.

Andrew NDB 08-17-2021 06:33 PM

"Being pansexual myself, I wish I had such incredible characters like Amity and Luz in my life when I was growing up." - Mae Whitman.

But... why?

The Deadman 08-17-2021 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1902466)
I mean a man can sleep with both a woman and another man, but once he "goes gay" it's pretty obvious he's gay. Even if he dates another woman after. Then the bisexual aspect disappears and it becomes a gay man.

Wait, what the f*ck? You honestly believe that if a man dates a woman after he's been with another man, he's still gay? UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

You really are sheltered, jesus christ.

neatoman 08-17-2021 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1902467)
"Being pansexual myself, I wish I had such incredible characters like Amity and Luz in my life when I was growing up." - Mae Whitman.

But... why?

In case anyone wants to know, neither of those characters are well written. The former completely changes personality after a few episodes, just so she can have a crush on the latter. The latter of the two has a really flimsy motivation for doing anything, though the show did eventually acknowledge that she does. The in general has this attitude of "we want this to happen, we're gonna make it happen wheter it makes sense or not". Eda, the witch Luz lives with is established to be a wanted criminal because she refuses to follow laws regarding magic specialisation, yet the show has no problem showing her walk around in public and several other characters just ignore the same laws without consequence.

The show can look nice and has decent voice acting but the character development and world building is nothing but contradictory garbage.

Andrew NDB 08-17-2021 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1902468)
Wait, what the f*ck? You honestly believe that if a man dates a woman after he's been with another man, he's still gay?

He might be.

sdp 08-17-2021 08:12 PM

I think you guys are missing the bigger picture here, does this make Donnie x April canon now?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RkscrVUvq-U/hqdefault.jpg

People always shrugged this scene off as being non-canon but I think this make sit canon. She wouldn't be the first either, the adult Ninja Turtles movie April is also pansexual


https://uproxx.com/wp-content/upload...mnt.jpg?w=650/

Sumac 08-18-2021 03:22 AM

Two minutes of being serious about retarded queer crap:

"Pansexual" is a meaningless term, since it mixes gender presentation and sexuality, which are not connected (i.e. tomboyish / butch woman is not necessarily Lesbian, effeminate man not necessarily Gay).

It means that you are attracted to people regardless of their sex and presentation, but the thing is, there is already a term for it "Bisexuality", which perfectly, and most importantly, without relying on stereotypes explains such attractions. Especially since nothing in "Bisexuality" specifically says anything about gender presentation.

Also, term itself, "Pansexual", hints that it ties to sexuality not a gender stereotypes. Thus it is inherently confusing in itself and contradicts its meaning.

Its basically another fictional term to confuse people and brainwash them into believing that queer stuff is real, when most of those terms and ideas are just obtuse and redundant terms, not based on reality, but on some "queer science experiments", which are as factual as studies about possible green people on Mars.

Leo656 08-18-2021 10:50 AM

Yeah, I'unno, to me "pansexual" just comes off as "Bisexual is old-fashioned and we need a newer, hipper label for it."

I mean maybe neatoman's onto something with the "underlying psychology" thing, but I'unno. To me it's still the same thing in practice. If you have sex with both chicks and dudes, the "why" isn't especially relevant. So I'm not sure why we need additional labels. Except for attention, of course.

I also agree with someone in the Comments section of that article: What would REALLY be "news" nowadays would be a person - especially a celebrity - "coming out" as Straight. Because THAT is something you just plain don't see or hear about anymore.
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Also, even though Cubed is just doing his usual sh*t-stirring gimmick, I did have to think about it for a minute, and y'know... just anecdotally, I am forced to admit that in my personal circle, most of the "bisexual" people I know are in fact women, whereas most of the guys who aren't straight tend to be "just Gay". I know a very small number of guys who would say they were bisexual (or "pansexual", I guess), but if you didn't know them and just met them for the first time, you'd just assume they were totally "gay" based on how they present themselves; you wouldn't know that they also liked girls unless you got into a conversation with them about it. I don't personally know any guys, I don't think, who are "quietly" bisexual, only "Flamboyant to the point where you'd assume they were Gay until proven otherwise." Whereas plenty of the girls I know who are bi don't exactly project it (although some do).

Very strange. I admit, this is entirely anecdotal, but it is something I realized the longer I thought about it.

I don't know. Cubed's assertation of "men can't be bisexual" is Obvious Bullsh*t, BUT, there's an asterisk next to it.

Men seem to adhere more strictly to labels than women do, so maybe that's part of it. Like they tend to see things in more black-or-white terms just in general, so perhaps it's simply that more men don't consider going both ways as an option and prefer the "simplicity" of either being one or the other.

Things are very confusing nowadays.

mrmaczaps 08-18-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1902473)
I think you guys are missing the bigger picture here, does this make Donnie x April canon now?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RkscrVUvq-U/hqdefault.jpg

People always shrugged this scene off as being non-canon but I think this make sit canon. She wouldn't be the first either, the adult Ninja Turtles movie April is also pansexual


https://uproxx.com/wp-content/upload...mnt.jpg?w=650/

Proper term for this is bestiality...

ABrown 08-18-2021 11:58 AM

So I actually kind of agree with Cubed on this one. Girls are far more likely to go through experimental phases like in college, where they might date a girl. However, said girl isn't really gay. Just going through an experimental phase. Yet a guy is only gonna have sex with another man if he is definitively, unquestionably gay.

Andrew NDB 08-18-2021 12:01 PM

Yeah, and I've weighed in on this in other threads. While women seem able to "grow out" of lesbian stuff or at least compartmentalize it into light bisexual stuff (or like they'll say stuff like "I'm in a relationship with a man right now, but I'm still attracted to women" but you fast forward even 10-15 years, they never actually ended up dating any chicks), 9 times out of 10 for dudes once they go gay, it is a vortex of ass from which there is no return.

I honestly haven't ever heard of even 1 guy who ever went gay and then straight again. Never. I've heard of guys that went bi that went 100% gay later on, but that's about it.

CyberCubed 08-18-2021 01:48 PM

I think it's also because women can be attracted to other women even in a platonic sense, like you always see women say that other women are beautiful, attractive or pretty, and of course women get together to get their nails done, shop for clothing together, style their hair together at the hair salon...so they're with other women constantly doing things to make themselves look more attractive.

Men tend to not do that stuff. So for a man to *want* to sleep with another man or start finding men attractive, it's more likely they realize they're gay. They were just with women before because they assumed they had to be straight or that's what society told them to do, but then they got older and realized they liked men.

Also ALL women experiment with other women, if given the chance. If you tell two straight guys to kiss each other even as a prank/joke, a lot would refuse. But two women? They'll kiss each other no problem.

Leo656 08-18-2021 02:05 PM

One of my wife's friends on FB is apparently bisexual; he apparently prefers guys but still has sex with women often. So there's one.

Although that's an "internet person" and I generally only count people I know and/or have interacted with in Real Life when it comes to anecdotal evidence. BUT, it's an example, so there ya go.

IndigoErth 08-18-2021 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1902522)
attracted...in a platonic sense

Cubed, hun, everyone can. That's called friendship.

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Also ALL women experiment with other women, if given the chance.
No. We don't. Maybe some, but certainly not "all."

#NotAllWomenButYouPretendWeDon'tExistBecauseThatDo esn'tTurnYouOn


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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1902511)
vortex of ass

:tlol:

Vegita-San 08-18-2021 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1902485)
Two minutes of being serious about retarded queer crap:

"Pansexual" is a meaningless term

the real reason? People got used to bi-sexual, so it was no longer abnormal and people couldn't feel 'special' anymore. so, enter pan sexuality, or whatever lando is supposed to be in solo..

Coola Yagami 08-18-2021 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmaczaps (Post 1902503)
Proper term for this is bestiality...

Idk, the Turtles and other such fantasy fictional characters are kind of a gray area. The Turtles are technically green humans with shells. I'd only call it bestiality if April actually wanted to molest regular pet shop turtles.

CyberCubed 08-19-2021 08:17 AM

The Turtles don’t have a penis anyway, people mistake their tails in the Mirage comics for it and that’s why they axed them in all other media. It’s impossible for April and one of the Turtles to have sex. It doesn’t work that way.

mrmaczaps 08-19-2021 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1902667)
The Turtles don’t have a penis anyway, people mistake their tails in the Mirage comics for it and that’s why they axed them in all other media. It’s impossible for April and one of the Turtles to have sex. It doesn’t work that way.

The fvck? Of course they have em. They're just not drawn cuz its a fvcking comic book & cartoons...

And yeah, its bestiality. They're animals mutated into humanoid form. She is human... in most versions.

IndigoErth 08-19-2021 10:03 AM

Oh they'd have 'em alright... but reptiles are just modestly convenient for family friendly media. :)


edit: If the TMNT wouldn't because they aren't drawn, then sorry April fans, but the same would apply because pants.

CyberCubed 08-19-2021 10:29 AM

They don’t have them because they’re Turtles, this isn’t the furry section of deviantart and tumblr. Fanart isn’t canon.

IndigoErth 08-19-2021 10:41 AM

Dear, dear Cubed... biology is as canon as you can get. :tlol:

CyberCubed 08-19-2021 10:47 AM

I’ve never seen a Turtle penis in real life and have no intention of ever looking it up.

IndigoErth 08-19-2021 10:59 AM

Don't worry, that's the sort of unseeable thing the internet forces on a person when the time is right.

The sort of thing people quickly try to scroll past, jump to the next page, hit the back button hard enough they end up five pages in their browser history's past... but it's too late, you can not reclaim the innocence you once had before seeing it.

Few go hunting for it. For most the internet simply says "it's time."







Tick... tick... tick...

Papenbrook 08-19-2021 12:59 PM

Congratulations. I know that coming out is a difficult process.

Andrew NDB 08-19-2021 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Papenbrook (Post 1902725)
Congratulations. I know that coming out is a difficult process.

Who are you congratulating, exactly?

Coola Yagami 08-19-2021 01:29 PM

Honestly wouldn't count Donnie boning April as beastiality. He's about as human as she is. Ironically, Raph boning Mona Lisa or Alopex would also be beastiality since Raph is neither a fox or a space salamander, but no one seems to care cause 'theyre both freaks, let the freaks ****'. That an almost racist xenophobic way of looking at things if all of these fictional characters actually existed.

People that can't tell the difference between a talking humanoid turtle and normal pet shop turtle are a certain kind of something. It's like the same people that would bone Lola Bunny would not also want to **** real rabbits. At least not all of them.

Sumac 08-19-2021 04:23 PM

Er...there is still a major difference between humans and humanoid animals.

Even if for all intents and purpose Turtles have more common with humans than with turtles, they still are humanoid turtles, i.e. not humans. Which is a breaking point for majority of people, since most people are attracted and want to have sex with only with their own species. Which is perfectly normal, I must add.

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1902731)
Ironically, Raph boning Mona Lisa or Alopex would also be beastiality since Raph is neither a fox or a space salamander, but no one seems to care cause 'theyre both freaks, let the freaks ****'. That an almost racist xenophobic way of looking at things if all of these fictional characters actually existed.

It is neither "racist" or "xenophobic" to look at things this way: mutants are not a race and there is a difference between being wary of people from different cultures and creatures, who are not humans. And some of them don't even have the same organs as humans.

If mutants want to bone each other, even if its kind of fruitless, fine by me. If they want to bone humans - only with human consent, but they should no be surprised that some people might find it icky.

Also, consider than in real world those mutants won't look so cuddly or humanized-pretty as in comic books.

IMJ 08-19-2021 04:32 PM

Only on the Technodrome forums could a thread like this be made, let alone last several pages..... :lol:

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Originally Posted by Papenbrook (Post 1902725)
Congratulations. I know that coming out is a difficult process.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1902729)
Who are you congratulating, exactly?

Actually yeah, who are you congratulating exactly?

Sumac 08-19-2021 06:14 PM

I think she is projecting.

Leo656 08-19-2021 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1902731)
It's like the same people that would bone Lola Bunny would not also want to **** real rabbits. At least not all of them.

For one thing, real rabbits can't dunk a basketball, or rock a crop top and booty shorts. At least not very well.


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