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TigerClaw 10-07-2021 11:28 AM

Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City
 
Here's the first trailer for the movie reboot Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City.


Andrew NDB 10-07-2021 12:41 PM

Looks way better and closer to the game but... a little cheap? As in, maybe a lot?

Also, I'm not sure that Random Actress and Arrow's real life little brother are going to be able to move the meter much. The Paul W.S. Anderson Resident Evil wasn't good but Milla Jovovich was white hot at the time, when it came out. Michelle Rodriguez? Definitely on the move and critically acclaimed (Girlfight), coming fresh off of "The Fast and the Furious." Who does this movie have, exactly?

TigerClaw 10-07-2021 12:47 PM

The choice of music is weird however.

Andrew NDB 10-07-2021 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1907918)
The choice of music is weird however.

I think they literally went "what was playing on the radio in 1998 and a hit?" and chose that song.

TigerClaw 10-07-2021 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1907919)
I think they literally went "what was playing on the radio in 1998 and a hit?" and chose that song.

Also every time I hear that song, It reminds me of this.

https://c.tenor.com/uJm_ZTk5WGMAAAAC/heman-hey.gif

Allio 10-07-2021 02:23 PM

Was always more the Silent Hill kind of guy when it came to the games.

IMJ 10-07-2021 03:33 PM

Looks like they are taking the nods from the recent Mortal Kombat flick. Like - a toe into "film quality" but more like super high quality T.V. with cinematic cameras and nothing-burger actors.

All a way to sort of get the I.P. into theaters but without gambling on any star power at all whatsoever.

But Mortal Kombat was watchable the first time - it exceeded expectations and maybe this will too, but I can still see this being a "download" and not a "buy". But we'll see.....

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Originally Posted by Allio (Post 1907934)
Was always more the Silent Hill kind of guy when it came to the games.

I straight up think that the first Silent Hill flick was fantastic horror - easily one of the best video game movies ever made and really a great and unique horror flick on it's own merits.

The sequel was trash though. It was like going from Brandon Lee in the Crow right to any of it's watered down "The CW" knockoff sequels.

Allio 10-07-2021 03:42 PM

Rewatching the first silent hill film again, I like it better now. The first two acts were fine for all things, but the 3rd act fell apart. The music was still good, so that’s a plus.

CyberCubed 10-07-2021 04:30 PM

This is a movie? I thought this was a netflix series.

Sumac 10-07-2021 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1907941)
This is a movie? I thought this was a netflix series.

I think there is a separate CGI tv-series.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 10-07-2021 04:37 PM

1998
 
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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1907919)
I think they literally went "what was playing on the radio in 1998 and a hit?" and chose that song.

Except the song is from an album released in mid October 1992 while the single was released in June 1993.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%2...n_Blondes_song)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigger...,_Faster,_More!

Here are some of the hit songs from 1998:

February



March (but associated with the FIFA Soccer World Cup in June and early July that year, competition played in France)



March



May (album track already in February)



June



June from the science fiction movie Armageddon, single release in August



September



October



November (album track already in October)


Turo602 10-07-2021 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1907941)
This is a movie? I thought this was a netflix series.

The woke CW-esque Netflix series with the black Wesker and his 2 daughters that has nothing to do with Resident Evil is unrelated to this equally awful film or the other CG Netflix series that is basically another CG movie like the previous 3 but cut into 4 parts...

Andrew NDB 10-07-2021 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 1907937)
Looks like they are taking the nods from the recent Mortal Kombat flick.

That and maybe the Hellboy reboot. Truer to the source material and R-rated... yet nobody actors and way less budgets.

IMJ 10-07-2021 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1907947)
That and maybe the Hellboy reboot. Truer to the source material and R-rated... yet nobody actors and way less budgets.

Oh geeze man. I forgot the Hellboy flick with Stranger Things guy even existed. I never saw it......

Leo656 10-07-2021 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1907932)
Also every time I hear that song, It reminds me of this.

https://c.tenor.com/uJm_ZTk5WGMAAAAC/heman-hey.gif

I don't have the vocabulary to express how much I hate you.

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 1907937)
L
I straight up think that the first Silent Hill flick was fantastic horror - easily one of the best video game movies ever made and really a great and unique horror flick on it's own merits.

The sequel was trash though. It was like going from Brandon Lee in the Crow right to any of it's watered down "The CW" knockoff sequels.

Can't agree more. First time I saw the movie, I never played the games so the movie was very "eh" to me without any context. Like it was "fine" but I didn't notice lots of things about it which made it great. Some things, you really do need to be completely immersed in the source material to truly "get", and I think that was one of those movies.

Because when I watched it again after I'd played Silent Hill 2, like, a half dozen times, there was SO MUCH to see and appreciate in the film that just went completely over my head the first time I'd seen it. It's such a perfect adaptation in all of the important ways; like yes, it deviates, but it goes to such incredible lengths to capture the spirit and the essence of the games, to the point where it really is the most faithful video game adaptation I've personally ever seen. When I read about how they made it, I couldn't help but be impressed with the director's dedication, to the point where there were people literally playing the games on-set just off to the side of the camera so they could compare things and make sure they were "getting it right".

Making the second film with a different director who was "just" making a horror movie and not trying to make it feel like the games in any significant way really hurt it. They waited too long to make it, and if they couldn't get the original director back they just shouldn't have bothered. I definitely wanted to see where the story went after the ending of the first movie, so that was intriguing, but the execution was botched. Too much humor, the tacked-on love story sh*t really hurt it, and it was just so half-assed compared to the first one. They left it open for Part 3, but I would only want to see it if the original director came back. The sequel was SO disappointing.

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 1907951)
Oh geeze man. I forgot the Hellboy flick with Stranger Things guy even existed. I never saw it......

It's okay. I liked it for what it was. I know nobody but me is capable of doing this, for some reason, but you really just have to ignore the Del Toro ones and try and appreciate the reboot on its own merits, and if you can do that it's good. It's not as "slick" as the Del Toro ones and it doesn't aim as high, but it's fun. Anytime someone makes a movie with the mission statement, "We want this one to be more faithful to the source material," I'm in. Was never a huge fan of the Hellboy comics but I can appreciate the approach. Del Toro was basically making a "twisted fairy tale" with a love story tacked on, and the reboot was completely different, so if you're romantically in love with the original movies then the reboot won't sit well. But I thought both versions were good movies for entirely different reasons.

I wouldn't say it was like, a fantastic movie or anything. But I did notice that most of the "criticism" about it was just, "I like Del Toro's better, this one has no right to exist" and I just think that's very unfair. Decent low-budget horror/comedy splatterfest. Lots of dark humor and gore. I can't see how anyone going into it with no expectations would hate it. But that's me.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1907947)
nobody actors and way less budgets.

Things like this frankly shouldn't matter. Especially within the horror genre, which basically made its bones on Exactly Those Things.

Andrew NDB 10-07-2021 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan (Post 1907943)
Except the song is from an album released in mid October 1992 while the single was released in June 1993.

Wow, I was way off.

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1907963)
Things like this frankly shouldn't matter. Especially within the horror genre, which basically made its bones on Exactly Those Things.

Yeah, but when you're trying to entice audiences to come see a new reboot of a movie series that began ridiculous and got progressively more and more ridiculous and camp... "this time it's a lot more faithful to the game(s)!" maybe won't be enough on its own? Or maybe it will. Like I said about the latest MK movie... it just needed like a semi decently big name or two to get a lot more people to pay attention to it.

Like, pay a bunch of money to Ana de Armas (or someone similar) to be Jill Valentine. She's not an A lister but she's on the rise and people are starting to sing her praises.

https://i.ibb.co/VJxPnZB/ATOPRMXYPVN...GQZRHEYXVA.jpg

I don't give a f*** about Resident Evil movies or games but I'd be stoked to see her running around killing T virus zombies.

sdp 10-07-2021 11:56 PM

How many RE projects are there? so confusing. I did find out the Netflix show was cast because of the data they have of demographics that watch that type of content.

so this is adapting resident evil 1 & 2 from what i can see? it does look cheap, like the CG at times looks worse than the milla jovovich movies. It also looks like a weird remix of the events which I don't like the emphasis on "we gotta stop umbrella", feels too superhero esque to me. Still props for trying to be more accurate at least.

Why does Claire Redfield look like she's in her 30s when she should be 16?

Leo656 10-08-2021 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1907968)
Yeah, but when you're trying to entice audiences to come see a new reboot of a movie series that began ridiculous and got progressively more and more ridiculous and camp... "this time it's a lot more faithful to the game(s)!" maybe won't be enough on its own? Or maybe it will. Like I said about the latest MK movie... it just needed like a semi decently big name or two to get a lot more people to pay attention to it.

Like, pay a bunch of money to Ana de Armas (or someone similar) to be Jill Valentine. She's not an A lister but she's on the rise and people are starting to sing her praises.

https://i.ibb.co/VJxPnZB/ATOPRMXYPVN...GQZRHEYXVA.jpg

I don't give a f*** about Resident Evil movies or games but I'd be stoked to see her running around killing T virus zombies.

Eh, this is one of those things where you and I differ in priority. I've noticed you care more about "The business" side of the business than I do. Which is just an observation.

With regard to movies, and especially with regard to what I personally want to see, I completely give no f*cks about what the rest of the audience would care about, what's going to "kickstart a franchise", or any of that. If Jane Doe can play the role as well or better than Jennifer Aniston, I'm fine if Jane Doe gets it. Yeah, they'll make another 50 million if it's Aniston, but I don't give a sh*t, I'm not in the business and that money isn't going to me.

Like, with regard to the MK movie, putting a "name" in it wouldn't have done one goddamn thing to make that movie any better (or worse). Like okay, maybe you bring in a few more dollars, but fundamentally, everything else Good and Bad about the movie remains the same, so unless you're one of the producers it literally shouldn't matter at all, in my opinion.

For my part, I generally don't like "stunt casting" in these smaller-budget projects anyways, it's distracting. I don't see (Character Name), I just see "Nic Cage (or whoever) doing (___________) cosplay".

I mean, I get it, kinda. When they cast Megan Fox for April O'Neil I was repeatedly... not "defending" it exactly, but more or less pointing out how like, "Without her then the movie doesn't get made, end of story", and I (rightly) predicted that her involvement wasn't even going to be close to the worst thing about the movie. Still, she wasn't a good pick, even though the bit about there being no movie without her was definitely true. In hindsight, they just never should've made the movie, period.

I'unno, I feel like if your project can only fly if it has a "name" attached, then it probably lacks some substance. But that's me.

Turo602 10-08-2021 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1907973)
Why does Claire Redfield look like she's in her 30s when she should be 16?

Claire was 19 in RE2. The whole casting is so goddamn awful anyway.

Jill and Leon are by far the most popular characters in the series and they went woke with them. Barry easily had the most interesting role in the original game and he's completely absent for some reason. Claire even steals Chris' role of trying to take down Umbrella for cheap girl power points.

Mix that all up with a CW caliber actor for Chris, a generic white guy as Wesker, and some sh*tty low budget CGI and production, and Claire looking 30 is the least of this film's issues. Bad enough they're trying to cram 2 games into one story, one of which was already redone recently and far better than any film could attempt.

Andrew NDB 10-08-2021 12:43 AM

The Wesker guy is the only choice I somewhat dig. That guy's great in Umbrella Academy and made a decent showing on Game of Thrones.

Andrew NDB 11-27-2021 12:33 AM

Saw it. Surprisingly good! Much better than the trailers make it seem. Way more like what I thought a Resident Evil movie should be like than the Paul W.S. Anderson movies.

sdp 12-07-2021 02:56 PM

apparently this was done on low budget to keep the movie rights? Explains the lack of marketing, cheap looking and how the RE tv show has more promotion going for it and it's not even coming out this year. Expect a sequel in 5 years so they don't lose the rights to the movie franchise.

Andrew NDB 12-07-2021 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1913785)
apparently this was done on low budget to keep the movie rights? Explains the lack of marketing, cheap looking and how the RE tv show has more promotion going for it and it's not even coming out this year. Expect a sequel in 5 years so they don't lose the rights to the movie franchise.

I enjoyed it. The wife did, too, and she's obsessed with the games. It doesn't look like the box office is too favorable, though.

And don't forget, the woke Netflix Resident Evil series is still coming:

https://www.gameinformer.com/e3-2021...dick-as-wesker

IMJ 12-07-2021 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1913787)
I enjoyed it. The wife did, too, and she's obsessed with the games. It doesn't look like the box office is too favorable, though.

And don't forget, the woke Netflix Resident Evil series is still coming:

https://www.gameinformer.com/e3-2021...dick-as-wesker

Oh see, I thought this movie was the woke $#!(, but I guess that's the confusion when a studio does overall dumb $#!( with their I.P.s.....

I don't think I realized the difference between what little I heard about this movie and what little I heard about the Netflix show.

Andrew NDB 12-07-2021 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 1913791)
Oh see, I thought this movie was the woke $#!(, but I guess that's the confusion when a studio does overall dumb $#!( with their I.P.s.....

I don't think I realized the difference between what little I heard about this movie and what little I heard about the Netflix show.

Netflix is the show with Black Wesker and no white males. New movie is pretty much a straight up adaptation of the first two games... no woke stuff except making Leon pretty incompetent, possibly Indian, and making Jill that lady that played Ghost in Ant-Man 2.

Turo602 12-07-2021 05:34 PM

The movie is hot trash with garbage casting and purposely race swaps the 2 most popular characters. They bit off more than they can chew by cramming 2 stories in 1 despite looking like a direct to DVD film. They just need to kill this franchise on film already if they're gonna keep butchering it like this.

Andrew NDB 12-07-2021 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 1913810)
The movie is hot trash with garbage casting and purposely race swaps the 2 most popular characters. They bit off more than they can chew by cramming 2 stories in 1 despite looking like a direct to DVD film.

To me it was by far better than any of the Jovovich crapshoots. I know that's not saying much, though.

And not only did they cram 2 stories into 1, but they also skipped over RE3. Given the ending of this movie, the story of RE3 can't be told since there's no Nemesis. So if there's a second movie, they can skip right to RE4, which apparently is what they're saying most interests them (as well as RE7/RE8).

sdp 12-07-2021 05:57 PM

Well my point was not the quality of the film, it could be great I dunno haven't watched it. But the conspiracy online seems to be that it was only done so they wouldn't lose the rights of the movie like those marvel movies based on fantastic four, captain america and whatnot from the early 90s.

IMJ 12-07-2021 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 1913810)
The movie is hot trash with garbage casting and purposely race swaps the 2 most popular characters. They bit off more than they can chew by cramming 2 stories in 1 despite looking like a direct to DVD film. They just need to kill this franchise on film already if they're gonna keep butchering it like this.

Quoted for accuracy and appropriate vitriol. 8)

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1913812)
To me it was by far better than any of the Jovovich crapshoots. I know that's not saying much, though.

And not only did they cram 2 stories into 1, but they also skipped over RE3. Given the ending of this movie, the story of RE3 can't be told since there's no Nemesis. So if there's a second movie, they can skip right to RE4, which apparently is what they're saying most interests them (as well as RE7/RE8).

I saw the first few in the theater and ultimately bought them all on Blu-Ray. They are terrible Resident Evil flicks, but for a while they were anticipated escapism whenever a new one showed up. Also, there was the hope with each one that they'd "finally get it right", which they never did.

I've evolved. Now I don't "hope" and I don't pay for, as Turo put it, hot trash.


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