Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero
 

I can't believe there wasn't a thread for this upcoming movie.

The details we know is that it is a CGI movie that emulates the appearance of cel animation. The plot appears to be a loose sequel to the Android and Red Ribbon arcs. It appears to be set shortly before the Manga's ending.
Oh and yeah, the title really is "Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero". Not "Dragon Ball Super: Hero" or "Dragon Ball: Super Hero", it does indeed use the word "Super" twice in a row...

Thank goodness Gohan has a big role and Goku/Vegeta are pushed to the side. The two manga arcs going since the Super anime ended is all Goku/Vegeta again and it's stale as hell. I have no idea why Super thought it was a good idea to push the entire cast to the sidelines but two characters, there's no further place to take Goku/Vegeta's dynamic since its been done for years.

Kinda looks like the movie will mostly feature Gohan, Piccolo and Pan while Goku and Vegeta are training with Broly elsewhere, out of the main plot.

This is very interesting, I really, REALLY hope they don't blow it near the end and have Goku appear last minute to end things. The advantage of the Android arc is it made the Red Ribbon into everybody's problem, it's no longer Goku's personal problem.

I managed to hear jinzouningen among all the Japanese which means artificial humans, so I'm wondering if these superhero Red Ribbon guys are androids.

I'm impressed that the trailer made me forget the movie uses primarily 3D-rendered models. That shot of Piccolo really looks like classic cel (CELL?) animation, as well as when Gohan "locks horns" with the villain.

Big fan of the Red Ribbon aesthetic too. It would make sense if Gohan and Pan get are the protagonists, but I've seen enough DBZ movies to know that we should all assume Goku will have to show up and pull off something crazy to actually save the day.

Looks like a cel shaded videogame. granted I prefer this style a lot more than current CG, especially the pixar look which everyone rips off. If we aren't getting 2D animation because it's expensive I'd rather get this.

As far as story, I'm glad it's called Super Super Heroes, it's ridiculous as Dragon ball is and dragon ball Z had become a parody with Super so it might as well embrace the sillier aspects of the franchise's origin though I'm sure it'll be hated by DBZ purists whose first Dragon Ball was Z.

Too bad I got permabanned from Kazenshuu for saying Majin Vegeta was in the right to kill all the humans at the Budokai tournament in the early Boo saga, since he was in the knowledge they'd all be wished back to life with the Dragon Balls after. They permabanned me because I said fictional humans in the Dragon Ball world being killed was no big deal.

lol

Uh... What the hell was your actual argument there?

It's kind of hard to come up with a real world comparison to bringing people back from the dead but... Let's say I destroy you cellphone, just because you can get a new one and get back everything you had on it with an online backup, if I just did it out spite you can't really say I was "right" for doing so even if it's not technically a big deal.

His motive for killing those people was just to piss of Goku so he could fight him to the death, there was no real justification to it. Even though they could be brought back it was still an evil thing to do. And of course it's not a big deal if fictional characters are murdered but it's still clearly an act of evil in the story.

Still a stupid reason to get banned.

I used to post there every now and then but as usual politics and wokeness devours everything. It's now a woke leftist nightmare over there. It sucks but even the Gamefaqs and especially the He-Man.org forums are hit hard by this.

IMO Gamefaqs was a better place when all the forums were game and possibly anime related. All the other personal junk has no place on a videogame forum. Then they hijack the Playstation forums with their political and 'all unxaxed deserve to die' nonsense. You can actually get banned there for saying 'no they don't'.

Getting banned because you say it doesn't matter that Vegeta killed a bunch of fictional humans that would get revived with the Dragon Balls only less than 10 eps later is ridiculous. It's a fictional TV series, the people there were acting like if you agree with what Majin Vegeta did, they were comparing it to Hitler or Nazi's or whatever.

LMAO.

Weird how this video game doesn't look THAT much different from this movie, I hope that the movie at the very least popularizes this, I also hope we get more cel shaded games, they're beautiful

That's the first thing I thought when I saw the trailers. It looked a lot like the cut scenes in both DBZ Kakarot and Dragonball FighterZ.

I'm guessing the plot is the new red ribbon army committing acts of terrorism and using fake footage, lookalikes or a wish from the dragon balls to make it seem like the z warriors are the ones responsible. The android duo are presented as the heroes who can stop them and the two start hunting them down. They eventually find Piccolo who is training Pan. They defeat him and Pan gets caught in the crossfire. Goku and Vegeta are off world training with Broly so it's up to Gohan to stop them.

A few things I'm wondering though. With the theme being superheroes why is Gohan wearing his cell games clothes instead of his Great Saiyaman outfit? Will they bother explaining how the new red ribbon army have the technology to create androids the same strength as the post Universal Survival Z warriors? Also, will there be anything that contradicts the end of z or the current manga arcs?

Gohan probably couldn't find his orange gi again, the same thing they did in Movie 15 where he was wearing his green tracksuit because he couldn't find his fighting outfit.

He reverted back to the Namekian style gi in the manga for the tournament and he kept during the Moro arc as well. So I'm guessing they want to keep in continuity with that, maybe? I know he used the orange one in the anime but the Moro arc hasn't been adapted yet and... Well, it's not like the anime hasn't ignored it's own version of events if they conflicted with the manga before...

I guess it all depends. The Moro arc mentioned they met Broly after the Tournament of Power. They might throw in a line or two referring to the events of this movie somewhere after the Granola saga ends.

I forgot about that. Toriyama apparently has more involvement with this than even the last three films, so it's possible he prefers the manga look.

Red Ribbon Army casting news and descriptions:

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...n-army/.180894

Interesting, so the 'kid' is actually an adult, but just very short. Might be related to Commander Red somewhere? Maybe not a son but a cousin or whatever?

On account of the recent Toei hack, the movie's April release has been "cancelled." It's unknown how severe the hack was, but it's at least possible they lost the data for the movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAYi3A_LLcE

Well that sucks but I don't understand how they would "lose" the movie? Surely they have back-ups and it seems more likely the hacker would leak the movie rather than destroy it.

How on earth can they "lose" a movie, especially in today's digital age?

Either way they still have the scripts, maybe they can re-do the movie in traditional animation now like the Broly movie like everyone wanted instead of using CG. :lol:

So there is a leak that I assumed was fake because it looked and sounded fake but given something that just happened in the manga, I am willing to say it's somewhat more likely to be real:

I don't know. I mean considering the rumors that Cell might or might not return, bringing that other person into this will just too many cooks in the kitchen. Like it's not a 3 hour movie or anything.

there was a new villain in the manga that was like cell, only he could take over the 'soul ' of entire planets and actually become the earth.

cell would be redundant after that.

That image looks like vegita, but has the hair of a certain someone else

It's a corpse they likely used it to power up the new android villains.

If that was true, Gamma 1 and 2 would be weak as ****.

The movie debuted in Japan and I have seen a tiny bit of footage.

Hmmm interesting. I was wondering if it was true or not because it seemed every other DBZ Youtuber kept posting these fake clickbait images of what they'd assume what this character would look like in this movie.

Just saw it, through certain means. Lots of fun, pretty much a Piccolo movie, with Pan and Gohan, but mostly a Piccolo movie.

There are some things I absolutely need subtitles to understand the long bits of conversation.

They sure had fun drawing Bulma's butt though, lol. There's even a scene with her bent over butt covering 95% of the screen as she's looking for something.

Bulma looks old in the last 3 episodes of DBZ so I guess that's being retconned given she's been wishing herself to look younger.

Just the fact that Bulma chews Goku out that he hasn't come to visit since the defeat of Majin Buu is retconned. They obviously have been seeing each other a lot during all of Super.

I can't see the Briefs and Son families ever drifting apart. That's one of the things I disliked about GT's ending. Same goes for Krillin's family associating with them (though I think in GT they don't say Krillin and Goku's families stop seeing each other at least).

What I can see them doing is remaking the last 3 episodes of DBZ with the current designs when they move to that time period. I imagine Goku will then take Uub to train with Beerus on his planet, rather than staying on Earth with him like he did back then and into GT.

Most likely. At the end of the Moro arc Uub makes a cameo looking maybe a year or so younger than his debut at the tournament. They can't keep dragging this out anymore. Even in this movie, Pan is a toddler but she looks older than she did at the tournament.

Unless they say something like Uub was somehow born with God Ki or whatever, I just don't see any reason for Goku to ditch his family to train with Uub after meeting Beerus and Whis. It made sense at the time because Majin Buu was the most powerful face they have faced at the time. But now, the real fight is to someday surpass Beerus and possibly Whis, or even Broly or Jiren... but not a human version of Majin Buu.

As for the manga, we'll see. Broly was canon in the manga and was mentioned during the Moro arc. With Goku and Vegeta out in space with the current Granolah arc, I wouldn't be surprised if they went home Gohan mentioned the Red Ribbon shenanigans.

By Super Logic, Goku training Uub for 3 months will make him Super Saiyan Blue level of power, so I can understand why he would want to train him.

I mean if he had God Ki maybe.

But let's be fair, Freeza was naturally all-powerful (at the time) without trying a day of his life. It took a legendary transformation to beat him. Him getting incredibly powerful by actually trying to improve himself makes sense.

Well Uub is literally Kid Boo, so at his current stage he would be stronger than a Super Saiyan 3. Then after Goku trains him, he'd be at Blue level power at the minimum.

Watched Superhero

It was… fine. Out of the four major films, I would rank this at 3. Better than Resurrection F, but weaker than Battle of Gods.

I rank it low probably because of Cell Max. A mindless beast just leave much for investment.

I'm just glad it gives Gohan/Piccolo, and to a lesser extent Pan and Trunks/Goten (as adults) more screentime.

The franchise needs to move away from Goku/Vegeta for awhile. Most of Super has focused on them and its gotten so stale.

I'm guessing Toriyama and Toyotaro ran out of ideas on how to make Goku and Vegeta look all that different every time they need a power boost, so probably best to shift the arbitrary transformations to other characters for now. Vegeta's current highest form is just purple hair with shaven eyebrows, and as for Goku? The latest chapter just had him settle for the imperfect form of Ultra Instinct because he didn't think being perfectly calm was going to work out this time, he basically decided what is currently considered his peak thing was stupid...

At this point the manga arcs may never be adapted to the anime so they may not even be canon.