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CyberCubed 02-15-2022 03:17 PM

Nick's 2023 TMNT plans revealed
 
You guys need to visit twitter sometime, this place is slow:

https://twitter.com/TMNT/status/1493709630840750086

https://twitter.com/paramountplus/st...07572972429315

The 2023 Seth Rogen CG movie will be followed up by direct-to-streaming movies about TMNT villains debuting on Paramount Plus. I assume from the same universe as the new film, but it's hard to tell based on wording.

No news on a new cartoon yet, but I get the feeling something based on the 2023 movie might happen especially if it's a hit.

joe-eyeball 02-15-2022 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1920028)
especially if it's a hit.

So you’re saying a new cartoon isn’t likely?:D

Andrew NDB 02-15-2022 03:29 PM

So... Rogen's movie will have a bunch of different villains? Is that the takeaway here?

The Deadman 02-15-2022 03:39 PM

So we're getting a TMNT cinematic universe of sorts? I'm interested.

TigerClaw 02-15-2022 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1920035)
So we're getting a TMNT cinematic universe of sorts? I'm interested.

Obviously Shredder would probably get his own movie on Paramount+, But which other TMNT villains they also can do? My money's on a Bebop and Rocksteady movie as well.

The Deadman 02-15-2022 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1920042)
Obviously Shredder would probably get his own movie on Paramount+, But which other TMNT villains they also can do? My money's on a Bebop and Rocksteady movie as well.

Baxter Stockman, Krang and Dimension X etc.

Galactus 02-15-2022 04:00 PM

It's an interesting idea and conceptually some of TMNT's villains you could easily craft interesting stories around...but if this is going to be in the same continuity as Rogen's movie we'll have to wait and see what kinda tone that movie goes for. Like you could totally do a great in depth Mirage-based story about Oroku Saki's journey into becoming the Shredder...but if it's based on the Fred Wolf version were he's just a dick who pins Yoshi to the wall to get his position then I aint interested.

Then there's the bigger question of whether TMNT really has the popularity to have spin off characters. It's like Sony's insistence on making an adjacent Spider-Man universe when other than Venom no one is really interesting in Spider-Man villains on their own.

NinjaPug 02-15-2022 04:03 PM

Yeah that sounds like every big Fred Wolf villain will be in the Rogen movie and they’ll get their own follow-up movie

Ninjinister 02-15-2022 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1920032)
So... Rogen's movie will have a bunch of different villains? Is that the takeaway here?

Based on the phrasing it might be that at least one/a few will be supplemental stories to characters that might not actually be in Rowe's movie but instead just mentioned/alluded to or even just not at all, like universe expansion.

seriously though why does everyone credit this movie and the last two to the producers despite the first four not having that distinction, let alone every other movie on the planet??

Sumac 02-15-2022 04:09 PM

15 years ago I'd be excited about possibility of TMNT multiverse...now, and especially with Rogen participation...thanks, but no thanks.

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister (Post 1920047)
seriously though why does everyone credit this movie and the last two to the producers despite the first four not having that distinction, let alone every other movie on the planet??

Because, people think that producers lay a bigger role in creative decisions than directors, which might be the case, due to the potential profitability of the franchise.

Chris 02-15-2022 05:08 PM

So we’re getting the Rogen reboot/Next Chapter movie plus a series of villains films that may or may not be related to it. Presumably they are linked but it’s not clear from the wording. Shouldn’t be surprised, they still haven’t cleared up if Rogen’s film is a full on reboot or if “The Next Chapter” subtitle means it’s a MOTU:Revelation style loose sequel. Or even if “The Next Chapter” is the official subtitle.

On the plus side it will be nice to see some different villains getting movie focus and I get that animation takes time so this will allow them to have stuff in the pipeline but after the last 2 movies this is putting the cart before the horse. Let’s get a solid movie out first before we worry about universe building.

TigerClaw 02-15-2022 05:11 PM

Official concept art for the CGI movie has been released.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLrRWNDV...pg&name=medium

phillytmnt 02-15-2022 05:36 PM

That is god awful if real. I’m confident that this movie could kill TMNT forever if it takes a goofy tone like that.

FredWolfLeonardo 02-15-2022 05:49 PM

Please tell me that art is a joke.

neatoman 02-15-2022 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1920063)
Official concept art for the CGI movie has been released.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLrRWNDV...pg&name=medium

What the hell am I looking at?

The Deadman 02-15-2022 06:22 PM

Concept art isnt the same as the finished product, lets not forget that.

Kyo Hisagi 02-15-2022 06:30 PM

It... could be worse... but wth did they do to Donnie?!

CyberCubed 02-15-2022 06:33 PM

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if one of the Turtles are gay in this version.

sdp 02-15-2022 06:43 PM

TMN villains aren't Batman villains, they can't carry a movie. I mean I'm curious to see how they handle it but perhaps the TMNT show up in all of them, I don't know it could be exciting. I think this is very ambitious and I don't think it'll pay off but I'm actually curious now.

As far as the turtles, they look like Kermit but it's only concept art, it'll look much different once it's all said and done. We always knew this was going to be aimed at kids. At least they seem to be doing something new so I'll give them props for that.

CyberCubed 02-15-2022 06:50 PM

Besides Don's glasses, the Turtles designs at least feel much more normal than they were in either the 2014 movies or Rise of the TMNT. No huge Hulk Turtles with human noses, and Rises' designs were very out there.

If they dropped Don's glasses I wouldn't mind these designs. Raph with a durag doesn't bother me.

Jester 02-15-2022 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister (Post 1920047)
seriously though why does everyone credit this movie and the last two to the producers despite the first four not having that distinction, let alone every other movie on the planet??

Because people know who Seth Rogan (and earlier Michael Bay) is. I had to look up Jeff Rowe.
Though the fact he worked on Gravity Falls gives me a bit of hope.

TigerClaw 02-15-2022 07:39 PM

Nickelodeon has clarified that the TMNT movies about the villains isn't related to the CGI movie, Looks like its gonna be its own thing.
https://twitter.com/DailyNickNews/st...65602309066759
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Nickelodeon has clarified that the villain #TMNT movies won't be related to Seth Rogen's upcoming animated reboot.

sdp 02-15-2022 09:00 PM

Ah ok, so this isn't as ambitious as I thought. I'm really curious to what they will do and what villains they'll choose, will they be like origin stories and the turtles will show up? Villains I can see carrying a movie by themselves would be Triceratons, Baxter Stockman,

TigerClaw 02-15-2022 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1920135)
Ah ok, so this isn't as ambitious as I thought. I'm really curious to what they will do and what villains they'll choose, will they be like origin stories and the turtles will show up? Villains I can see carrying a movie by themselves would be Triceratons, Baxter Stockman,

They should look into the IDW comics where some of the TMNT villains had there own comic mini series.

ProphetofGanja 02-15-2022 09:37 PM

It's not a bad idea, it's literally just a setting and it's one ripe with many story possibilities

Slash-Dash 02-15-2022 11:43 PM

has the live action movie been canned?

Zulithe 02-16-2022 12:49 AM

I am digging the concept art. I’m tired of having negative feelings about newer TMNT stuff. So please make this good.

Chris 02-16-2022 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1920125)
Nickelodeon has clarified that the TMNT movies about the villains isn't related to the CGI movie, Looks like its gonna be its own thing.
https://twitter.com/DailyNickNews/st...65602309066759

As much as I think it's too soon to worry about franchise building before seeing if the first movie is well received, the idea of unrelated villains movies is just bizarre.

I know they're just fodder to build Paramount+ content library, but Sony's Spider-Man villains universe without Spider-Man feels pretty pointless (is anyone really looking forward to Morbius?) and even Spidey's B-list villains are more well known than TMNT villains (outside of maybe Shredder, Krang, Bebop & Rocksteady). At least if they were connected it would feel like maybe there was some purpose to them.

AquaParade 02-16-2022 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1920125)
Nickelodeon has clarified that the TMNT movies about the villains isn't related to the CGI movie, Looks like its gonna be its own thing.
https://twitter.com/DailyNickNews/st...65602309066759

That's somewhat promising from where I'm standing. The more shots we have, the better. Maybe this universe can be of a slightly different flavor that appeals to a different breed of fans.

shredder orokusaki 02-16-2022 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1920106)
TMN villains aren't Batman villains, they can't carry a movie. I mean I'm curious to see how they handle it but perhaps the TMNT show up in all of them, I don't know it could be exciting. I think this is very ambitious and I don't think it'll pay off but I'm actually curious now.

As far as the turtles, they look like Kermit but it's only concept art, it'll look much different once it's all said and done. We always knew this was going to be aimed at kids. At least they seem to be doing something new so I'll give them props for that.

A movie about me will be the best movie ever made! Batman is nothing compared to me!

neatoman 02-16-2022 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1920028)
You guys need to visit twitter sometime, this place is slow:

https://twitter.com/TMNT/status/1493709630840750086

https://twitter.com/paramountplus/st...07572972429315

The 2023 Seth Rogen CG movie will be followed up by direct-to-streaming movies about TMNT villains debuting on Paramount Plus. I assume from the same universe as the new film, but it's hard to tell based on wording.

No news on a new cartoon yet, but I get the feeling something based on the 2023 movie might happen especially if it's a hit.

Which villains? If it were up to me it would be:
  • Shredder
  • Karai
  • The Triceratons
  • The Purple Dragons
  • Rat King
  • Savanti Romero
  • Old Hob
  • Bishop

But let's face it, it's Viacom/Paramount, so it'll probably be:
  • Shredder
  • Krang
  • Bebop and Rocksteady
  • Tokka and Rahzar
  • Mutagen Man
  • Leatherhead (labelled as a villain)
  • Rat King
  • Karai (if we're lucky)

Obviously I'm hoping more for my list but... They are going to give Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady solo movies...

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Originally Posted by Zulithe (Post 1920160)
I am digging the concept art. I’m tired of having negative feelings about newer TMNT stuff. So please make this good.

Well, I always hope movies are better than I expect... I just don't expect much here...

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1920139)
I hope Mutant Town is adapted and the main setting for the movies.

Great idea, then general audiences can finally see how much ass it sucks!

TigerClaw 02-16-2022 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade (Post 1920204)
That's somewhat promising from where I'm standing. The more shots we have, the better. Maybe this universe can be of a slightly different flavor that appeals to a different breed of fans.

I see the potential of doing movies about the villains, which would lead up to a live action TMNT movie as a result.

While a movie about Shredder is the most obvious, They can also do a movie about Bebop and Rocksteady, How a pair of wannabee street thugs became a rhino and warthog.

These movies can work as interconnected stories.

CyberCubed 02-16-2022 04:07 PM

Also I doubt the movies based on the villains will be real full-length movies. They probably mean something like 40 minute specials at most. Obviously a villain isn't going to get an hour and a half movie, especially if they make multiple of them like they say they are.

Chris 02-16-2022 04:30 PM

I’d think they will be more around the hour to an hour and a half range personally. If they were only 40 minutes it would be a series of specials rather than movies.

TigerClaw 02-16-2022 05:15 PM

Remember that we are also getting a new live action TMNT movie that they announced about a year or so ago, And with the news of these villain movies, It will probably be related to that new live action movie.

neatoman 02-16-2022 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1920258)
Remember that we are also getting a new live action TMNT movie that they announced about a year or so ago, And with the news of these villain movies, It will probably be related to that new live action movie.

Most of us think that has been canned in favor of this. It might not have been but... Well, TMNT ain't exactly Spider-Man. Sony may have 14 movies and a live-action TV show for Spider-Man but I doubt Paramount is willing to do the same for TMNT:

Rooish 02-16-2022 05:48 PM

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Besides Don's glasses, the Turtles designs at least feel much more normal than they were in either the 2014 movies or Rise of the TMNT. No huge Hulk Turtles with human noses, and Rises' designs were very out there.

If they dropped Don's glasses I wouldn't mind these designs. Raph with a durag doesn't bother me.

Sigh. Yeah whatever about the do-rag, the Turtles have been drawn like that since the early days, but I would like to know what idiot behind the scenes insists on Don needing glasses and a bucktooth. I sort of feel like people who make kids' cartoons have a responsibility to not constantly reinforce stereotypes and rely on lazy tropes, but whatever.

It's not like it would be too incredibly trailblazing to have a smart character not have to fit into this one visual representation. I mean, if in the 90s they could make Rhinox look like this:
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I think we can handle a tech guy having some visual complexity.

Leofan26 02-16-2022 08:53 PM

Think if we complain they'll change the look like what happened with that Sonic film?

I like both but is it really that much harder to make turtles compared to a hedgehog?

I wish they'd already give us an release date for that Rise movie.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 02-17-2022 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Zulithe (Post 1920160)
I am digging the concept art. I’m tired of having negative feelings about newer TMNT stuff. So please make this good.

Then, avoid all online discussions about upcoming TMNT stuff. The Internet has made it very easy for fans to break it all down just after one concept art image. This isn't the early 1990's when you just heard a movie was in production, and was exciting for months (maybe it was all a schoolyard rumour, sometimes you didn't know for sure until you read it).

Slash-Dash 02-17-2022 09:44 AM

is it safe to assume the live action movie has been scrapped?


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