New Godzilla and/or Kong MonsterVerse movie
 

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Godzilla Versus Kong Sequel Shares Filming Details

Hell yeah! Glad we've gotten confirmation that there's a sequel in the works

New Godzilla Kong movie coming out in 2024, we have the King Kong anime prequel and the Titans Monsterverse Apple TV show. So looks like after the MCU ironically enough it was the monsterverse who actually built a real cinematic universe. Looks like this "Phase 2" is already shaping up nicely and they finished up their "phase 1" well.

Makes me wonder if a Godzilla 3 will ever actually happen or even a Kong 2. I get the feeling we'll be getting a Godzilla/Kong 3 before either of those. I can't say I love the movies but the monsterverse is fun since it's a high budget b-film despite all its shortcomings

The 2024 film is reportedly the Godzilla 3. Though I would have preferred Kong 2 first.

Whatever it is, they can't come soon enough. I love these flicks.

I was all-in from the Godzilla solo flick, but "Godzilla vs. Kong" is probably one of the worst movies I've ever seen, or at the very least one of the absolute dumbest with one of the all-time worst scripts ever put to paper, and it really deserved to fail but of course it got a great reaction because all the average mouth-breather cares about is "The dinosaur punched the monkey, maaaaaan! What more do you NEED?!" :roll:

So yeah, no, I couldn't possibly care less about what they do next, it's just gonna be another mindless f*cking cartoon like the last one. Just because something is "escapism" and "entertainment" doesn't mean it HAS to be so f*cking unapologetically insipid.

...Of course, which movies actually make money directly goes against that idea, so yeah, I know, once again I'm outvoted by idiots. Doesn't matter, still right.

While I’m more excited about the “Shin-ematic” universe more, I do admit that the best part of the “Monsterverse” is how different the films are from one about. Despite there only being four films now you can get several people in a room and you can get different answers of “Which is the best film” and people would have different answers for different reasons.

Honestly it is what makes “Kaiju” films such a unique experience as there is no real definitive way to make one of those films.

They can be different, I guess, as long as we get back to films like Godzilla 2014 and Skull Island and not just more King of the Monsters and GvK.... which are ridiculous.

Ridiculous is par the course for Godzilla. Wouldn't be the same otherwise.

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I like the 3 or 4 good ones. Not the 40-something "This is all just stupid and the people watching it are also stupid so let's just drop all pretense and Be Stupid" ones.

Imagine my shock at how the original Gojira is just plain A Good Movie, after all my preconceived notions as a kid about what those movies were "supposed" to be. Quite a revelation.

Too bad "It's SUPPOSED to be stupid!" became the driving force and ruined it all, just like with TMNT.

While I can understand why people enjoy the Showa Era, I do prefer the Heisei era more.

I knda can't understand it. :lol:

But I mean, aside from the first one they were all kids' movies until a certain point. You're allowed to do that. I'm just never, ever in favor of it, because kids are retards. Therefore, by definition anything designed specifically to entertain them is terrible, because they are literally products designed for people with no taste and no standards. And so I genuinely don't get it when grown people love "kids' movies" with no irony. Like, what's the appeal? The constant cringe humor? The lack of stakes or verisimilitude? The "plots" that come off like some kid smashing action figures together with no rhyme or reason? I don't get it. I'll never get it.

But in the case of the goofy Godzilla stuff, I recognize that it was also a different time. It was "forgivable/acceptable", given the limitations of the medium as well as what people were willing to accept from "real movies", to just make bad movies on purpose. I don't think that should be acceptable practice NOW, however.

I also just plain don't think the concept is silly or goofy at all, and I think an approach that's less Saturday Morning Cartoon and more Apocalyptic Nightmare would be best for the material. I think people only assume/expect/accept that the kaiju concept is "goofy" or "silly" because several decades of bad movies taught them to think that. If someone had the idea for Godzilla today, right now, and it had never been done before, I promise you that their first instinct would NOT be to make a live-action cartoon out of it.

Ideally, we'd get some sort of happy medium between the solo Godzilla flick and Skull Island and that would be the general tone and approach. This stuff should be horrifying, not goofy.

I would love a Godzilla 3 and Kong 2 but not interested in another team up movie. I would like a Mothra movie as well. I hope future movies will have other classic monsters like Anguirus, Biollante, Gigan, Hedorah, King Caesar, etc.

I'm willing to bet the movie features both Godzilla and Kong to some extent, but it won't be called Godzilla vs Kong 2 as it's not really a versus story anymore. It'll probably focus on Kong inside Hollow Earth. Whatever the case I hope it features some of all the other Titans they introduced in King of the Monsters.

I think I'm most excited about the Skull Island anime for now. the AppleTV show will have to focus on human drama since they won't have the budget for big time kaiju fights and it's still too far off to form any real opinions on

Gojira was a monster movie. Almost every Japanese Godzilla movie after that was Power Rangers - Japanese culture turned Godzilla into a cultural superhero franchise. They are Marvel movies of the era for Japan.

Yeah, exactly. Only 3 or 4 movies in and it's already "let's take spaceships to the center of the Earth!"?

My opinion of both Power Rangers and Marvel movies should be a matter of public record by this point. :lol:

I like that you NEED to insert everywhere how are a grown up boy, who LOVES everything to be gritty and serious and have stakes, but, you know...
no-one gives a ****.

People go to the movie, where giant ape and a giant clumsy lizard are duking it out not for a tear-jerking ****** drama about humans and their problems - they are coming to see **** getting wrecked. If anything, this type of movies, would've benefited, if humans would've been cut of completely. Just give me an hour of amazing CGI and I set.

And you know why? BECAUSE, ITS ****ING FUN.

You can pretend that you are being smarter than anyone else in the room, but in reality you are acting like a crummy and dry 80-year old virgin in a strip club, crying about "why people enjoying all those naked women dancing, instead of having enlightened talks about literature?"

Everything has its time and place and movie about a giant monkey and a giant lizard fighting on an aircraft is by definition a ridiculous ********.
Enjoy the ride or be a sour grape.

Its not like there can't be serious movies about Godzilla, but you need to choose battles wisely. If a movie wears its colors on its sleeve - then crying "why its ridiculous?" is like crying about horror movie not being a family-friendly comedy, despite it being advertised as a horror everywhere.

A lot of them, yeah, but not all of them. Hey it was Japan in the 60s what else would you expect :lol: Godzilla vs. Hedorah, Godzilla vs. Biollante, and shoot even Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla all have some pretty poignant moments. But it's definitely a YMMV-type of thing

If we are talking about the best Godzilla films I would say my top five are, in no particular order,

Godzilla (54)
Godzilla vs Biollante
Godzilla GMK
Godzilla against Mecha Godzilla
Shin Godzilla

And honestly all of them are good for different reasons.

I love how nobody's allowed to have a different opinion when you're around, son.

I wasn't "a kid" even when I physically was one. I always preferred hanging out with adults and watching adult things. I'm not going to apologize for it. I shouldn't have to. Nor do I/should I give a f*ck about what simpletons find amusing.

My previous "forum stalker" died recently and I'm not in the mood for another one. So for the hundredth time, if my taste in movies bothers you SO much, save it for your therapist, because you shouldn't give a sh*t as much as you clearly do. If me explaining what I like/dislike and Why is so triggering for you that you just NEED to type out a rant so as to call me some kind of name over it, that's obsessive behavior.

Y'know what's "fun" for me? Watching a movie and not being treated like I'm four f*cking years old. That's allowed. In fact, it ought to be more encouraged.

You can have whatever opinion you want, mate. Its just in the process of voicing your opinions, you come as a bitter asshole, who attempts to show how BETTER you are than everyone else and, as it usually happens, you come as arrogant, petty, no-fun allowed asshole.

Here it is.
You have chosen a strange venue to show off your "adult sensibilities". On a forum about mutant ninja turtles of all places.

Its not about your opinion, its about how you voice it.
Which comes as childish and annoying.

"Look at me! I like dark and gritty stuff! I am an adult! For sure! Look how I am better than everyone else, because, of it!
Also, I throw a pity party, when someone calls me out on this".

If you go to the movie about Giant Lizard vs Giant Monkey and expect DEEP INTRICATE STORY, WHICH WILL MAKE YOUR UNIQUE AND AMAZING ADULT SENSIBILISITIES TINGLE, than you have no-one else to blame, when it is not the case.

But keep ranting how everyone else are stupid, because, they go to see an entertaining stupid movie and, suddenly (!), it is a stupid entertaining movie.

If a bunch of middle-aged TMNT pajama-wearing incels on a cartoon forum think I'm a big meanie because I have a modicum of taste... that only means that I'm doing something very right and should in fact double-down on everything.

A person should be allowed to say, "I like the more serious kaiju movies, not the ones aimed at diaper-sh*tters", regardless of venue, and not be given sh*t for it.

I mean, just for the sake of argument, if a giant nuclear dinosaur that spit atomic fire were real, the entire world would end in less than three days. THAT, to me, is an interesting concept/premise for a movie. Not the dinosaur and a giant monkey playing beach volleyball. That's insipid toddler sh*t. Calling it "insipid toddler sh*t" isn't a "hot take", it's in fact the correct opinion to have.

How I express myself on this or any topic shouldn't matter to you anywhere near as much as it very clearly does. Again, obsessive behavior. Not healthy. I won't ever change, and I'd have to respect anyone here before I'd care if my words hurt their pwecious feelings, and I don't. So you're wasting your time and your words on this never-ending "You're too serious, maaaan" bullsh*t. 6+ years and you're still doing it.

It's pointless. You're not "educating" or "enlightening" me or whatever it is you think you're doing. You're only annoying me. You know I'm not going to change but you never stop pissing on my leg anyway. It's f*cking stupid.

Yes, I'm a very serious person. No, I don't have a "sense of humor" in the traditional sense. Yes, I prefer that entertainment generally not pander to 5-year olds. No, I won't apologize for it. I shouldn't have to, considering the only people who ever take issue with my "attitude" are morons who like baby sh*t.

If someone I admired told me I had a bad attitude, I might listen. But that's never happened and isn't likely to. Because I generally don't congregate with stupid people who like stupid things. This sh*thole being the sole and notable exception. And while I do stick around for some dumb reason, it's not like I claim these idiots as "kin". They like f*cking Ninja Turtles, how "smart" could they even be? :lol:

Anyways, we're not gonna date so the fact that you and I have incompatible philosophies on life shouldn't be an issue. Yet you continually make it one. It's bizarre, please stop it.

Who needs to watch King Kong and Godzilla fight when this thread exists :lol:

You are confusing "taste" with "arrogance".
Also, adult man who likes Snyder edgy garbage written for 14 year olds, has no ground to claim he has a better taste.

A person should be allowed to say that you are aiming at the wrong target by criticizing wrong movies.

You are saying it like there are no serious movies about Godzilla.

But as you had pointed out, the premise in itself is absurd and stupid, its in itself a fantasy which much closer to childish fantasy, rather than any serious sci-fi (whatever that means). Which is why there are more ridiculous fun movies about Godzilla and the like.

Also, one need to take into account Japanese culture and how its different in approaching serious themes and how they treat humor and pathos in their works. It doesn't translate well to other languages.

I will continue to call you out on it.
Deal with it.

Serious people don't like Snyder ******** and don't waggle their Superman knowledge like their biggest treasure every time, when people talk about his movies.

You are coming in those situations not as a "serious" person, but as "seriously fragile and childish person", who can't take any criticism or any arguments and believe that anyone who doesn't share his opinions are somehow dumber than him. Which is strange, since in other, more serious topics, you come as smart and level-headed person.

You like Snyder ********.
You fit right in.

Bring back MechaGodzilla damnit.

The 2012(?) Godzilla movie was alright. They could revisit that idea since it was left open for a sequel idea. No, I'm not giving away spoilers.
** I'm not certain if a sequel was created or if the idea for one was canned. **

Cool story bruh. :roll:

If you insist on wasting your time on constantly "calling me out", it's your quarter. But it's f*cking stupid. More than half a decade of you telling me I'm a condescending prick like I don't already know that. :lol: Jesus. Talk about pointless as f*ck. What a ridiculous crusade to have. Keep tilting at windmills, Don Quixote!

If it wasn't already perfectly clear ages ago, don't care about your approval or your terrible opinions on movies, guy. I'm secure in knowing I'm Right and You're Wrong.

Also, when you're the smartest guy in the room, you're allowed to talk down to people as much as you want. I shouldn't have to explain that.

The richest part of it all is, you condescend to people around here more than anyone, yet somehow take issue with how *I* do it. :lol: Back of the line, buddy, I've got tenure. And I've already tapped Turo as my replacement for when I retire, you're not on the list so no need to keep auditioning.

Everybody else around here figured out way before you showed up that trying to "correct my attitude" was a fast track to an ulcer. You'll get there one day, I hope. You've got a better chance of blowing out the sun than of ever seeing me respect anyone's opinion besides my own. Deal With It.

Nope, not arrogance.
On my part. I know that you are wrong and I am right, because, I have something resembling logic on my side.
You have only arrogance and pretentiousness.

I hope your ego won't push you out of your home.
That'll be funny sight, though: a man launched in the air by his own inflated EGO.

You should find a better replacement.
Its like trading a Rook for a brain-damaged Pawn.

Do I care what others think?
If you haven't figured it out: I am not.

Again: Cool Story, Bruh. Tell it to Reader's Digest.

I'm not an incel. Pretty much not even close.... I do wear jammies once in a while though, but that's so that I'm not running around in my undies in front of the boss and fam.

You can be mean sometimes. Did you watch Blade Runner yet? :teek:

Nevermind.

But as to the convo here, I honestly think that the narratives they've played out in the monster verse has been pretty solid, all things considered with the content that we are discussing.

I mean.... let's face it - it's difficult to give the humans a meaningful arc in a series of movies that are designed to simply have giant monsters crushing stuff. Yet they did that. It's not high-art cinema, but the human characters have a solid arc, they develop across the story, they make their stand and they each have motivation enough across the story.

What's the problem?

What? Seriously? Only "sometimes"? I'm sorry, I'll try harder from now on. I didn't know I was slipping!

I sadly haven't had an opportunity because I don't control the TV and my wife thought the first one was boring, so whenever I bring it up I get overruled. :ohwell: One day soon I will "force" her to watch them both, on account of I still owe her one for her forcing me to watch Chickbusters and Transformers 3 (and 4!).

As stated elsewhere, I don't get any say in what goes on the TV from Now until September but I promise to correct the situation very soon. I don't doubt for a second that it's a very good movie. :)

I can't speak for others.

For me, it's partly that with the solo Godzilla flick they started off with one-and-three-quarter feet planted on the ground in Reality, which was nice, and now after the last one they're in full-blown Bugs Bunny Land. It's like watching the Batman series deteriorate from Batman '89 to Batman & Robin. "How the F*CK did we start There and get HERE? For F*CK'S f*cking sake!"

But I may have been a bit more forgiving of GvK and its "theme park attraction" sensibilities IF the "script" didn't come off like a bunch of pre-schoolers wrote it in crayon and finger paints and then proceeded to wipe their asses with it.

I mean, I didn't hate KotM as many people here did, although that may be in part because I'm something of a mark for King Ghidorah. It started to veer into more silly territory than the first movie or Skull Island did, but I felt like it still had some merit. Once you start crossing over the monsters and having them fight you're by definition going to start getting more and more outlandish, that kind of goes without saying.

And I WANTED to LOVE GvK, I can't stress that enough. I was all-in when it started, and I can't remember the last time I fell out of love with a movie so fast. Because it was SO DUMB. It was like they didn't even TRY. Y'know how Waititi claimed that they wrote Thor 4 "As if 10-year old kids told them what to put in it"? Well, GvK was like that except with 5-year olds steering the ship.

I don't say this lightly, but it was by far one of the dumbest and most infuriating movies I've EVER watched. Up there (or down there) with Chickbusters and those Transformers abortions. It's not even about expecting "high art", it's about "HOW can anyone write a script THAT bad? How can anyone write characters THAT annoying? Why is Millie Bobbie Brown even IN this thing, aside from 'Stranger Things' being some peoples' jam?" I mean, she had a point to being in KotM, so I was in favor of her being brought in again for GvK. Connective tissue between movies, good deal, all's fine. But then ALL she did in GvK was run, pout, and give exposition. Totally useless/pointless/unnecessary. And I wanted to shoot her stupid "sidekick" in the face every time he opened his mouth. Awful, awful stuff.

It was agonizing. I couldn't even enjoy the monster fight stuff, I was too pissed off every time they'd cut away to any of the terrible characters and their awful, atrocious, godawful, 6th-grade-level "dialog". And I do not want to hear that it's just "tradition" and how it hearkens back to the Japanese movies which also are godawful whenever they showcase the human characters. Don't care, Do Better. "It's bad on purpose" is no excuse.

It just wasn't any good. It was objectively a poorly-made film in every way except CGI. UNLESS all you care about, literally, is "Lizard Punches Monkey". And hey man, if that's all you need, may as well wait for the YouTube video that whittles the entire horrible movie down to 10 minutes of "The Good Stuff", and not even bother with the full movie at all.

They did three good movies in a row, of varying tone and execution, but none of them were "bad", in my estimation. GvK, however, WAS bad. Except the one thing it did well, the CGI monster fights, which, I know, "That's all anyone cares about anyway". Siiiiiiiigh. Okay, but again, the other 90 minutes were worse than a root canal, there's no excusing that.

I've heard claims that about 30 minutes were cut for time, and that pretty much every bit of what was cut would have made it much better as a MOVIE and not just a one-trick theme park ride. I don't doubt that. It very much felt like an unfinished, haphazard mess in its final form. BUT, I can only grade the movie I watched, not "the movie they might have made and then butchered in editing."

So. That's "the problem" I had with GvK. The fact that after KotM, the filmmakers realized, "Wait a minute... the people who watch these movies are STUPID! Hahaha, we've actually been trying to make these movies GOOD, and we don't need to do that! What dummies we are!" And that it was very, very, very, VERY obvious, the shift in priority.

When you make a bad movie on purpose because "The audience expects no better, therefore it's pointless to aim any higher than the ground," you're insulting your audience's intelligence. Maybe that doesn't matter to people who actually are morons, but it matters to me. Even a movie with a "dumb" premise like "monkey vs. dinosaur" deserves a much better attempt at a script, and much better characters, than what THAT movie got.

I feel like none of this should even need to be stated, it should just be understood. But, here I am explaining it anyway. But yeah, that's my "problem". They quit even pretending to care about quality and started copying the Transformers Movies production model. "Make it loud, make it dumb, make sh*t blow up, and that's all we have to do because nobody watching this thing is gonna care if it's any good or not as long as we razzle-dazzle 'em." That's their attitude. Well, as a paying customer, I take offense.

I mean, consider this: Whenever I wrestle, regardless of venue, I know going in that everyone in that crowd is a moron, because... they're wrestling fans, it goes without saying. :lol: OBVIOUSLY they're stupid, because they watch f*cking wrestling. BUT, I don't go out there and half-ass my job just because I know I'm performing for a bunch of chimps, I do my absolute best every time because I want to make them feel like the money spent to watch me was worth it. I *could* half-ass it and they'd never know, but I wouldn't feel good about myself.

Filmmakers These Days: "Why Try Hard? The audiences are idiots with no attention span, it doesn't matter. Besides, it's only _______."

Me: "I don't care if it's only _______, you should try hard because it's important to do your best ALWAYS."

Y'know where I picked up that little Life Lesson? From Ernest P. Worrell, in "Ernest Goes To Camp". Which incidentally, was a MUCH better and less-dumb movie than "Godzilla vs. Kong." :trazz:

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. :)
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Who knows, though? Next movie might be better, and if it is then I'll say so. It could definitely happen, I won't rule it out, and I sincerely hope they pull it off! I liked the first three a whole bunch and I sincerely WANTED to like GvK. So I'm always rooting for them.

But I definitely won't be spending theater ticket money to watch it. I watched GvK "for free" on my HBO Max subscription and STILL felt like someone owed me money back. So, after that, I'm not going in balls-out for another one of these until I see something of substance.

My friend, there have been several sequels by now. :lol:

2014: Godzilla
2017: King Kong: Skull Island (not a sequel exactly but it's a shared universe & it becomes relevant in the crossover)
2019: Godzilla: King Of The Monsters
2021: Godzilla VS Kong

This thread is teasing the next, a Godzilla VS Kong 2, potentially, & there's also an Apple TV series set to come out which deals with human characters occupying this universe. If you liked the first one, peep the others. I like the sequels more than the first, personally. That one spent too much time on the young soldier, not that such things aren't commonplace in the property. & Mecha Godzilla makes an appearance somewhere along the line... :)

Solid choices. I still have to watch Shin Godzilla, I always hear it's one of people's faves.

I like Godzilla vs. Megalon and Ebirah, Horror of the Deep just because they're so campy and fun. But my favorite Godzilla movie is probably Final Wars, because of how over-the-top it is. If I want a more serious flick I'll check out Godzilla (2014)

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Thread is less Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah and more Godzilla vs. Charles Barkley if we're being honest about it, guys. C'mon. :lol:

Shin Godzilla was very interesting! I definitely liked it, and wouldn't mind seeing more - I know they said they're not gonna do more, but eh, I can hope - but I kind of had to pretend it was a "generic" kaiju and not "Godzilla" to maximize my enjoyment, if that makes any sense. The name "Godzilla" just carries a lot of expectations, and while I completely understand that the entire point of the film was to subvert those same expectations, and to treat it entirely as if this was the first, one, and only "Godzilla"... I'm not sure it's possible for most people to do that. It was a very cool creature and I dug just about everything about the execution, legit... but when you think "Godzilla", your mind's eye most certainly does not conjure.. that.

I thought it was really good, though, and I definitely recommend it!

I too like "Final Wars" and hold it near the top of my list, mostly for its unashamed "Just do Godzilla vs. Everyone Ever, f*ck it!" premise. But, I must say it's got some spots that are actually a bit boring for a movie with that premise. Like after you see it once or twice, I find that most people just end up watching the fight scenes. I like it, mostly for its grand ambition, but as a "movie" I'm not sure it works as well as it could or should have.

Sometimes I do spend like ten or fifteen minutes just watching Godzilla casually swat down Fake American Godzilla over and over on a loop, though, not gonna lie. :lol: For all of my bluster, sometimes I'm not really all that difficult to entertain. :trazz:

"Gojira" is still my go-to though, even more than the modern ones. Black and white, yeah, fine, shoddy effects that betray the film's age, whatever... I was blown away by that movie's quality (for its time) and what it's actually about, more than most movies have managed. It's one of the few Godzilla movies that I feel handles the material in a fashion which I would call "correct", but also... is just plain a Good F*cking Movie, period. Like, it's art, it's "cinema", it's not a joke the movie asks the viewer to be in on. I was not expecting That, and I very, VERY much appreciated That when I first saw it a decade or so ago. And it made me even sadder knowing how the series then immediately henceforth lost the plot. BUT... it was a grand debut.

I'll still watch the Japanese original any day over anything else, up to and including the modern American ones. No shame, no apology. It's a better movie than all the rest from a purely artistic standpoint, even without the budget or CGI of the new stuff. I consider it a tragedy that more people aren't familiar with it. I still haven't seen the entire "Americanized" version with Raymond Burr, which is what most people think of when they think of That Movie. I'll get through it one day, I just... well, I've tried, it doesn't grab me like the real version does. I feel pandered to by it, and we KNOW how I feel about THAT. :trazz:

Shin Godzilla is entertaining, no doubt. But it's way overhyped. It's become the Godzilla version of onboarding socially. Like how people come out of an MCU flick and they just say that "it's the best Marvel movie yet!" and look left and right as they say it as if they are at work and their boss might be listening for their phony vocal support.

Shin Godzilla is an intentional anachronism, but it does give people something new to see - Godzilla "evolving" spewing blood in the streets. It's neat but corny as hell.

That’s an interesting take. I’ve heard some of strange takes of Shin, IMJ above being one, but is there any particular reason you don’t see Shin as “Godzilla?” Is it the design of the monster? Is it his constantly evolving nature?

I mean... A little of both, I guess? Like, it's very unconventional, on purpose. But that's fine, they wanted to see if they could buck convention and tinker with something well-established and they did it in an entertaining way. It's not totally faithful to expectations but not altogether foreign, either.

I thought the upcoming Shin Ultraman was going to be part of a new, shared Shin Universe? Is that no longer the case?

I believe what I read was that they were doing a "Shin Universe" rather than a straight-up "Shin Godzilla" sequel. At one point I'm pretty sure I read they weren't doing anything else with their version of Godzilla anytime soon and that it was a one-off. But I admittedly don't follow it all that closely so for all I know plans may have changed regarding that.

I *do* keep up with Godzilla news pretty closely, and usually hear whatever Toho says pretty soon after they say it, and it seems like they aren't really too sure themselves what they wanna do. It seems like they have finally come a few conclusions:


1. "Let's let Hollywood use Godzilla again." While the quality is debatable, the profits have been good enough I guess so we're getting a MonsterVerse sequel, TV show, and anime all in the next year or three.


2. "Shin Godzilla was also popular. Let's do another Shin movie! F*ck it, everybody gets a Shin movie!" I have had the movie on my computer for years so I should quit dicking around and watch it so I can be caught up for the inevitable sequel/spiritual successor.


3. "Let's celebrate the anniversary of the OG movie! Again!" 2024 is the 70th anniversary of Godzilla (1954), so I assume they want to use that synergy to build momentum for the franchise and their other intellectual properties (if possible) but unless they're already working very hard behind the scenes, I don't know what they'll be able to pull off. It definitely matters more in Japan than here stateside tho, but some people will be pretty excited.


4. "More Singular Point!" They want to do another season of Godzilla: Singular Point?? wtf? Even as a major Godzilla fan this show was hard to love; it was confusing at best and irritating at worst but at least it had a little humor to offset the technological/philosophical ponderings (I know, I know, Humor is BAD and must stay FAR AWAY from SERIOUS franchises, with SERIOUS BUSINESS. Only GRIM, DARK, SERIOUSNESS allowed here, folks :roll::lol:)

It’s a vague universe. According to Anno the idea is a shared universe, but copyrights would be an issue (more so than what some simple Merchandise would create) so it seems like there couldn’t be any direct physical reference to Shin GodIlla.

Though there are a couple of Shin Godzilla references
“Shin Godzilla” appears in the title card of Shin U.’s movie
“Shin Gomess” was built on the CGI model of Shin Godzilla as a base, like how the original Gomes’s suit was built on an old Godzilla suit.