Green Lantern: Beware My Power DC animated movie
 

So basically... "What if John Stewart was Hal Jordan"? Lame. If they really want to do a solo John Stewart story why don't they just do a solo John Stewart story? Why the need to tear everything else down? This is like an "Emerald Blacklight."

Seems more like applying Kyle's origin to John to me.

Big fat "meh" from me. And I happen to like John Stewart (my fave is Guy though).

A-f*cking-Men to THAT! ((Fist Bump))

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...9_Mar_1968.jpg

Seriously, he's just The Best. "Yesterday's Sins". F*cking God-level stuff.

Awesome! Glad you also appreciate him.

He really is the best! :D

But thrust into the Sinestro Corps War.

Hal Jordan is my Green Lantern and the only one I want to read on his own. However, I like John Stewart as a character and is one of two characters that I think thrive as a part of an ensemble not as a solo feature. John Stewart is great support for Hal Jordan and is the best Green Lantern in the Justice League. He shines playing off others. On his own there is not much to tell and that is okay. That being said I am going to give it a pass.

He and I have a lot in common. Similar upbringing, similar attitude, similar philosophy.

People say that Batman is "the most realistic and relatable super-hero". Bullsh*t. Guy Gardner. Nobody else even comes close.

Superman and Batman will always be ahead on points for various reasons, but Guy Gardner will always be the sentimental favorite. I can't even lie, I love it whenever he gets to put either one of them in their place.

He's the greatest of all time.

Voice Cast has been released

Aldis Hodge to lend his voice to John Stewart. He is also playing Hawkman in Black Adam


Jimmi Simpson as Green Arrow, Ike Amadi as Martian Manhunter, Brian Bloom as Adam Strange, Jamie Gray Hyder as Hawkgirl, Mara Junot as Lyssa Drak and Banth Dar, Jason J. Lewis as Ganthet and Captain Kantus, Keesha Sharp as Vixen, Simon Templeman as Sardath and Console Voice, Rick D. Wasserman as Sinestro, Sunil Malhotra as Power Ring and Rannian Commander. Nolan North, meanwhile, provides additional voices.

https://comicbookmovie.com/green_lan...3601#gs.z4bl8l

Coming simply from a dramatic storytelling perspective, I'm at least optimistic that John Semper (the mastermind behind Spider-man The Animated Series) was a chief writer on this project:
https://www.facebook.com/makingofspi...73060211503875

Finally another green lantern animated movie!

It was really hard for the GL franchise on the screen (big or small) in the last few years.

Except for the GL TAS and two animated movie, we had nothing since Ryan Reynold's movie.

Hal Jordan appeared in few JL animated movies, but except for «*War*» it was almost cameos.

But now we'll see in the next months/years:

Beware my powers
Blackest night animated movie
GLC HBO serie

So I hope this is the beginning of a new shining time (no pun intended) for that part of DC's universe.

So yes, they give Kyle's origin to John but honestly, John's comics origin (and Guy for that matter) aren't that memorable either.

John Stewart is a great character.... glad to see him get an animated entry. I've bought most of the GL animated flicks, I'll be in for this one too.

"Guy Gardner: Reborn" and the first 16 issues of Guy's solo book are some of the best books the 90s ever produced.

It's a shame Emerald Twilight accidentally ruined it just as it was getting really good. But eh. For that year and a half it was pure gold.

Aww, man. Yeah. Huge agree on all of this.

I just really love Guy Gardner. As a little girl, I was super obsessed with Batman (thanks, BTAS), and he used to be my favorite character until I got older, and branched out to other DC titles. I found Hal Jordan overall dull (sorry, Hal fans), but Guy was exactly what I was looking for when it came to a character/Green Lantern. I just really loved how they wrote him, his backstory, his relationship with Tora (this is my one true pairing for DC, their love story is really touching to me), everything. Even his design is great because he has a very distinct look to him with the red hair and bowl cut, which they've changed at times but still.

Does Siniestro even have personal beef with Stewart, other than just wanting to kill all the Green Lanterns? I always thought his personal beef was with Hal, and every time I see Siniestro in an animated series or movie as the Green Lantern villain but the Green Lantern is Jon instead of Hal, I always get that pesky feeling that the movie/show/whatever really should have been about Hal but 'we got too many whiteboys in there, someone just HAS to be black'. Same with Star Sapphire, isn't her beef also with Hal?

I know they kinda get a free pass cause the normies don't know about the Green Lantern as much as they do Batman and the like. Like for many kids Jon Stewart IS the Green Lantern, Day One. I remember the normies being confused as to who the **** Hal Jordan was when announcing the failed live action movie and the articles asking 'why didn't they just use Jon?'

It would be the equivalent of Dick Grayson as Batman and him facing all the classic bad guys but without there ever being a mention or implication that Dick is the second Batman. As if Bruce Wayne never existed or never wore the cowl. Or hell, to better go with the theme, it would be as if David Zavimbe (Batwing) was Batman and no one ever mentioned Bruce.

Oddly enough, the first time I ever saw Guy Gardner was in a Flash Annual, and first impressions were not great. :lol: He was the first super-hero I'd ever read who was a huge jerk, and as an 8-year old kid I didn't like that at all. Heroes are supposed to be upstanding and virtuous! But then after seeing him pop up in some JLA books, I very quickly was like, "Wait a minute... this guy's by far the most interesting character in the bunch," and it was BECAUSE he was such a textured, nuanced character and not a white-bread cardboard cutout.

The interactions with Hal really put it over, to me, because at that particular time Hal really WAS just a white-bread, pompous ass who was holier-than-thou without any particular reason to be. I loved that Guy had the balls to stand up to him, or even Batman and Superman. I was so "that kid", at the time, like "Hey man, who ever said This Guy Here walked on water?" and so seeing Gardner get up in the face of guys like Batman and Superman was so awesome, to me, even as a huge fan of those characters. It's like "Damn, yeah, f*ck it, they're not automatically right about every single thing just because they showed up," and even when Guy was wrong on points I respected that he'd always stand up for himself. It was like seeing the bullied kid stand up to the popular jocks, even when he knew they might kick his ass. Again, I was "that kid", so following Guy was very cathartic and inspiring to me.

His secret origin about his abusive, alcoholic Dad and everything was just the icing. I was already all-in on the character by then but finding out that we had similar childhoods really cemented it. There's no other super-hero I could ever claim to have so much in common with on a personal level. He's pretty much Me, with a worse haircut and so on. :trazz:

In the hands of a skilled writer like Giffen or Jurgens or Dixon, he was incredibly dynamic. He'd come off outwardly as a loudmouth bully, but then you'd see how he was really just masking insecurities and fears with bravado. And when the chips were down, whether it was Eclipso or Starbreaker or whatever, even after the entire JLA or Green Lantern Corps would tell him to f*ck off, he'd ALWAYS come through in the clutch and save them all.

When heroes are in it for more than the accolades, and they come through and do what needs doing even when everyone hates them, just because they know it's right... to me, that's about as inspiring and Purely heroic as it gets. Like, nobody would have more reason to give up being a hero, or otherwise becoming a full-blown villain, than Guy... but every time his powers were taken away, every time he lost someone close to him, every time he suffered yet another crippling setback or was flat-out told, "Nobody likes you, nobody wants you here... just go home"... he always found a way to endure.

He really did personify what the Green Lantern Corps was supposedly all about, more than anyone else who ever wore the ring. He wasn't a perfect person, but he was always a lot more brave and selfless and all-around heroic than most people give him credit for. But then, you have to read the right stuff to really get it. Bad writers do a terrible Guy Gardner. But good writers who know his history and put it to use tend to knock it out of the park.

Not a fan of his new origins circa New 52. That'll never be canon, to me. "Yesterday's Sins" is what it's all about.

For as much sh*t as Geoff Johns gets - much of it very much deserved - I'll always be grateful for him making Guy a GL again, and helping return him to a place of prominence in the DCU after a few years of being mostly-forgotten. The "Warrior" years were pretty abysmal, mostly, but at least they un-f*cked it. I still prefer Guy with Sinestro's ring, because I think he works better as a maverick than as part of a team that has such rigid rules and regulations, and plus, his costume was just plain neat. :lol: But whatever it took to put that Warrior stuff to bed.

He's pretty much my #3 of all time behind Superman and Batman. But I think he's much more realistic and relatable than either one, and if ever there's a conflict between them my allegiance immediately shifts to Guy in that moment. Even when he's wrong on points, he's generally right on principle.

And besides... imagine the size of the nuts on a guy who will call Superman an asshole to his face. :lol: How can you NOT love that Guy? :tgrin:

Yes in both cases. Although Sinestro and John did have a few personal run-ins during "Guy Gardner: Reborn" and "GL: Mosaic". But that was after Sinestro was dead (or assumed to be), and his spirit would repeatedly try and possess John's body in order to control him and stir up trouble. In "Reborn" it was so he could reclaim the yellow power ring off of Sinestro's own corpse before Gardner could get to it - which he failed at, because GUY F'N GARDNER - but I forget specifically what his goal was in the one Mosaic issue. I remember it being one of the better issues of Mosaic, but it's been years since I looked at it so I just don't remember the details.

Even then, though, it wasn't so much "personal" between Sinestro and John. More just that it had been established that John was weaker of will than Hal or most of the other Lanterns - partly because of that whole thing where John had let Xanshi get blown up through his arrogance, a failure that affected him for years afterwards - and so it made him more prone to being a puppet for Sinestro's spirit. As far as one-on-one run-ins, they didn't really have that many. He really is more of Hal's opposite number than anyone's. If there's another Lantern besides Hal who Sinestro could reasonably be called an "arch-nemesis" of, it would be Gardner. Gardner bested Sinestro's soul in a battle of wills, Gardner stole his yellow ring... these were not exactly small victories. But even then, it was just a few stories here and there.

But yeah, Sinestro is Hal's villain. Star Sapphire, too. The entire tragedy of Star Sappire is that it's Hal's ex-girlfriend Carol, possessed. I *guess* you could change it so that she's simply the ex-girlfriend of whichever GL the story is centered around... but that isn't how the story goes.

The problem with using John as the primary GL in any spin-off media is... he simply doesn't have a rogues gallery of his own or any stories featuring him that truly stand out. The most well-known and character-defining story in his entire history is still "Cosmic Odyssey"... in which he gets supremely overconfident and lets an entire planet die. :ohwell: His biggest solo moment is one of total failure where he let billions die.

Very hard to translate that character to other media and feature him prominently as a solo act. He's never BEEN that, and so he's never fully established himself as anything other than an appendage to the other GLs of Earth.

It doesn't surprise me that the "solution" some writers would settle on is simply to transplant enemies and supporting cast members from other Lanterns onto him... but I still don't like it. It exposes the inherent flaw in the character: He was created entirely to be "The Black Green Lantern", that's all he ever was, and he's never grown past being that, and only that. It's not the fault of the character, but it does make him a lousy choice for spin-off media. He's just never done anything important.

Well right now John is the leader of the GLC, and a pretty good one.

If they bothered to let go the "origin story" each time they do a new movie they could go in the leader direction for John.

As for Gardner, I agree with you. He's really a "every man" GL with relatables flaws, not as "morally superior" as the 3 others GL.

In my own defense I have a ton of DC knowledge but it pretty much stops with Flashpoint. Between the New 52 and prices going to $4 per issue I just quit comics cold turkey and never looked back. So anything after 2011 I can't really speak to.

I know John is "the Real GL" to an entire generation of people thanks to the cartoon, but as Coola alluded to, I put a huge asterisk next to that because he wasn't put into that show for popularity or story-based reasons, it was purely "We need a black guy in there" reasons, and I'm never a fan of that kind of thing. I don't even think John Stewart was even doing anything of importance, in the comics, when that show first aired. He'd been completely off the radar for almost ten years by that point.

It's like how they stuck Hawkgirl in there just to get another woman on the team, when Hawkgirl was never a prominent member of any incarnation of the JLA. To so many people, that is the "iconic" roster because they only know cartoons, but I've never been able to look past the politics of it. Some of those characters didn't really need to be there, and some of the ones who should have been were introduced later on, anyway.

Good show, just not a fan of some of the choices they were forced to make with it.

Same for me. What I liked the least about it was having Hawkgirl present and her romance with John Stewart. Both already had notable love interest/spouses from the comics and just found another way to screw with both Hawkman and Aquaman at the same time.

Hawkgirl is the least present of the iconic lineup of the Justice League of America. I don't care much for the character one way or another but I detest the characterization in Justice League.

Comic book wise John Stewart had been out of action. He was healed of his paralysis in the final pages of Final Night by Hal Jordan in late 1996, but remained absent and ringless appearing as a supporting character for Kyle to talk to a half dozen times until several months into the cartoon's run he got a ring again just when Kyle threw a fit about his gay friend and John took his place in the Justice League. Odd plot point to a write a character out,but whatever.

As a character John Stewart cannot lead a title. He is great as a part of a team and his personality fits that best of any Green Lantern. It's okay to be a solid team character or a supporting character. He should not get a push because of his skin color. It actually takes away
from him. Justice League put him him for the same reason a second string Teen Titan was placed on the team, diversity. It is a shame in the sense that it is not because of the quality of the characters themselves. I mean Cyborg would be a great coordinator for the team not 'the black guy' for diversity sake. John is good working with others. Something that nay not be natural for Hal, Guy, or Kyle for different reasons. Now if it was a big story for the Justice League I want Hal Jordan to be the Lantern, but if not I can see John Stewart being a fit so long as we have an idea of where the other Lanterns are and who is concurrently active alongside him. He is a calm voice of reason that can bounce off other characters.

For the JL cartoon, a strong case could have been made for either Hal, Kyle or even Guy being the team's Green Lantern. John, not so much.

Kyle was the current Green Lantern in the comics at the time, and so if they were going for synergy, he would have been a good choice. Problem there being, you'd jump over all the stuff with Hal that preceded Kyle ever becoming a Lantern. Obviously, the cartoons were less concerned with that kind of stuff anyway, but it still would have been odd to have Kyle in a show that pretty much never mentioned Hal, seeing as how "Hal's Replacement" was his entire reason for existing or being created.

Hal was probably the "right" choice, for multiple reasons. Not only is he the one most often featured prominently as a JLA member, but he was the first GL on the team in the comics so by using him the cartoon would have at least been doing things "in the right order". Meanwhile, they could have done a streamlined version of his fall from grace and turned him into Parallax, which would have been just awesome to see on that show. They could have done several arcs with all that material, and then replaced him on the team with either John or Kyle as GL anyway.

I'm guessing the fact that he had most recently been a villain and outright killed off in the comics was a factor in why the cartoons barely mentioned Hal. But it's a real shame either way.

Even Guy could have worked well, seeing as how he was one of the most prominent members of the JLA during the Giffen/Jurgens years from '86 through '94, a solid eight-year run as a member of the JLA while Hal was bouncing between outer space and Justice League Europe. His inclusion would have made the team dynamic a lot more fun, with how abrasive he is compared to everyone else's more serious and stoic portrayals (except for Flash, of course). The Gardner/Superman and Gardner/Batman conflicts from the comics would have been very fun to see play out in animation, as well.

All that said, Gardner is probably the least well-known of the "main" Earth Green Lanterns and that was even more true when the cartoon was debuting, since he'd been Warrior for a long time and I think he was even dead right at the moment the cartoon launched. So it makes sense they did not use him for the team's GL in the cartoon. I'm just saying, had they chosen to, it would have worked very well.

John was pretty much the "worst" choice, but that's the one they went with, for "reasons". I mean, it's whatever, but they ignored all of the far more interesting Green Lanterns they could have used instead of him and if they had gone with ANY of the others, it would have been a better show.

I understand they were hamstrung by "certain things" but it was the wrong move.