Thunderbolts MCU movie
 

Well, we know where Baron Zemo is going next now:

https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/ma...J-CvoFSyuF4_ek

I know that a lot of people assume that they will go with Suicide Squad-esque incarnation but I'm really hoping they start off with the original premise of super villains posing as heroes after most of the superhero community disappears. It would make total sense given that in the MCU the Avengers are no longer around.

The MCU Thunderbolts


https://i.imgur.com/J7qjnca.jpg

Some surprises in that lineup. Also, what the hell... no Zemo?

I bet Zemo shows up as a surprise

I mean... it wouldn't be a surprise seeing as everyone wants him there. Now make MCU Wolverine join the team mid-way, and THAT would be a surprise.

I also wanted the rumors to be true about Jon Bernthal's Punisher being on the team. Now that'd get me excited.

What is a little surprising... 6 of the 7 there are white people.

Diversity matters...until its not.

Shhh you'll wake up the SJWs.

Eh, they'll probably make them all act like assholes or whatever cause white man. I mean Captain Britain has already been portrayed as a buffoon and US Agent was an asshole.

Bucky escapes the asshole treatment cause he's a pre-woke MCU era favorite.

The only diversity I care about here is that they're all super soldiers/spies. No tanks, no flying bricks, no ranged attackers, no tech heads, nothing.

Except this Taskmaster is a tech head, because the suit has tech in it that helps her be able to learn an opponent's fighting style without any training.

Absolutely disinteresting team and lineup. Maybe though they could pull of some Suicide Squad level of fun with it.

Seeing Winter Soldier and US Agent being part of the team will be interesting, They are certainly gonna butt heads at each other since there encounter in Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

Still a spy type. I was thinking more along the lines of someone, maybe even Justin Hammer or a new character like Beetle or something, in an armored suit.

Harrison Ford is (apparently?) the front-runner to replace William Hurt as General Ross:

https://comicbook.com/movies/news/ma...ss-mcu-rumors/

Are they sure they want to cast an 80 year old for a set of movies he may not be able to perform for in the coming years?

It's true... Ford is almost 10 years older than William Hurt when William Hurt died.

Yeah talk about doubling-down on an old dog :lol:

Ghost might be dropped from the lineup. Even though she's... the only one with superpowers on the team:

https://comicbookmovie.com/thunderbo...gs.8dca.nmhphm

did she do or say something to upset the wokies?

Ghost used to be one of my absolute favorite Iron Man villains - awesome character. Almost every single Iron Man villain has been butchered by the MCU in some way or another. Which is really ironic because Kevin Feige at one point stated in an interview that Iron Man doesn't have a strong rogues gallery - yet here we are with a ton of Iron Man villains translated to screen so far, most of which were changed dramatically and not entirely for the better.

Ghost? As in girl from the second Ant-Man movie or I just confuse her with someone else?

Yeah. But Ghost from that movie was SJW'd big time. The original character was a male and had interesting motivation for industrial sabotage rather than "I'm a naturally wonderful person who was wronged and therefore my evil is the fault of others" crap.

They did to Ghost what they did to Taskmaster.

They did. And Taskmaster was yet another Iron Man villain - I suppose arguably "Avengers villain" but still in that stable.

Blizzard turned into a kid with a weather machine and assigned to Agents of SHIELD
The Mandarin never manifested in an Iron Man movie and assigned to Shang Chi
Taskmaster assigned to SJW and delivered to Black Widow
Ghost assigned to SJW and delivered to Ant-Man
Crimson Dynamo combined with Whiplash in Iron Man 2 so as not to have Iron Man fight another guy in armor. Movie ends with fight with three guys in armor
M.O.D.O.K. changed into Yellowjacket 2.0 and assigned to Ant-Man 3

There might even be one or two more that I can't recall at the moment.

And on the flipside, Vulture and Mysterio, being turned from Spider-Man villains to Iron Man villains that just so happened to be delivered to Spider-Man.

Oh yeah good point on those. But you know what? At least those changes in the end didn't affect the character's core competency, visual style or conflict with Spider-man himself.

Fun fact, Thunderbolts #1 was the first comic I ever bought.

So it shoots in June and is being rewritten by a new dude.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/lee-sun...-thunderbolts/

THUNDERBOLTS
Previously dated on 7/26/24 moves to 12/20/24

https://www.marvel.com/articles/movi...lease-schedule

It's said to have "a new perspective." Uh, what does that mean?

https://www.darkhorizons.com/mcus-th...t-perspective/

Probably the neo-sensibility that "nobody is evil or bad" and instead just misguided and can evolve to be a good guy (i.e. Adam Warlock in GOTG 3). And so it will be like The Suicide Squad but with "gooder" bad guy- good guys. :roll:

Maybe they'll say 'remember, we're the bad guys' every ten minutes.

That's kinda the whole point of the Thunderbolts in their original incarnation. They were D-List villains masquerading as heroes as a preclude to a takeover but along the way most of them realise they like doing good, turn against Zemo and try and genuinely reform. Yes that 2000s series by Ellis which had them more as Marvel's edgier Suicide Squad was good that every attempt to revive them has tried to do a new version of that and failed. That run should have been a cool different take as opposed to the norm going forward. Frankly they were always better as villains trying to good.

This movie is going to fail terribly. Probably do worse than Ms marvel 2 and Eternals combined. Nobody is going to remotely care what a "Thunderbolt" is.

I feel bad that Ghost was removed.

This is the only movie I feel remotely curious about due to the cast of characters.

If the movie fails it's because customers lost faith in the MCU. Just like you're asking 'who cares what a Thunderbolt is', back then you could have asked 'who cares what a Guardian of the Galaxy is' but back then the movies were either amazing or good enough to have earned the good faith of the customer willing to give them a try.

I thought that was debunked like a year ago?

https://x.com/syriangeekvibes/status...95055912005932 first trailer leaked.

Ghost is in this movie

It looks, eh... harmless? I'm not really getting a "hook" here, though.