Sony's Madame Web movie
 

Emma Roberts is considering throwing her career away:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/emma-ro...ls-madame-web/

To be honest the only thing I have ever liked Emma Roberts in was the Nancy Drew movie she did years ago.

The only real legs Sony could get out of turning their licensing of Spider-Man as an I.P. into a "universe" would be a solid Spidey trilogy, a Spidey 2099 trilogy (which if done like a Blade Runner flick could be amazing) and maybe punctuated with some luck from a "stretch" film like they got away with using Venom.

Having a bunch of bad guy movies coalesce into a Sinister Six film was always a ridiculous and awful idea.

Given Madame Web's position and connections in the comics, this could be kind of intriguing. I would definitely watch it, if only to see how they weave in the multiverse with her. (Anyone remember her part in the final arc of Spider-Man TAS?)

There's got to be something preventing Sony from doing that with respect to their deal with Disney/Marvel. Like, why in the world would they be doing a Morbius or a Madame Web movie when they could be doing Miles Morales movies as the "Sony Spider-Man"?

Simple. Miles doesn't have a huge cast of side character's and villains to work with! You could literally mine Peter's side character's and random villains for YEARS and never even scratch the surface of the full roster!

Yeah, but, You could do Venom vs Miles or anyone vs Miles. People would still watch it.

Enter the Spider-Verse did well enough for a couple sequels.

The Miles PS game did well enough, I think his an established enough character to fly solo.

Ideally I'd like to see Sony and Disney come to some kind of custody agreement. Where Disney can the film rights Peter Parker and Sony can do live action Miles. Keep the two universes separate (outside of multiverse).

I feel like there is untold hours and hours of boardroom conversations about just this between Sony and Marvel.

But yeah. There has to be things in whatever agreement they reached and then renewed at the 11th hour (remember the stories about Tom Holland calling Bob Iger drunkenly?) about what Sony can and can't do, as in if they still want to earn tons of cash from MCU Spider-Man stuff. Because surely Sony would be dumping out Miles Morales movies and Spider-Man 2099 movies maybe not before Venom, but certainly before they'd arrive at stuff like Morbius and Madame Web. Like, even if whatever they did with Morales and Spider-Man 2099 was clearly in another universe. Even that would surely be more profitable than either thing.

Reported cast of characters and plot details

I really can't fathom who would want to be involved in a Sony Marvel movie that isn't Spider-Man. Did they not watch Venom 2 and Morbius before putting pen to paper? It's not going to be good.

Bumped back into 2024 now:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/sony-de...-garfield-web/

Worst concept and use of I.P. spinoff for a movie ever.

So most likely eliminated.
Good job, Sony! As always.

https://fandomwire.com/its-really-fe...y-masculinity/

"Really female driven" and "will revolutionize superhero industry dominated by masculinity."

Sure to flop harder than Morbius, in other words.

:tlol:

Revolutionize?

Didn't other movies already do that?

Maybe it would be more accurate to promote it as "Normalizing" a trend?

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How about instead of revolution you just make a good story?

Some people's agents are getting fired :lol:

They can't wait to show us the "powerhouse of badass females."

https://comicbookmovie.com/spider_ma...gs.0ef3.yxrdbt

Yeah. Flop.

Looks like something that will launch a new franchise of amazing story telling for wine moms and men who tell themselves that they are "enlightened". Just like the Marvels did!

-thumb's up-

The keys to the entire Spider-Man franchise and the best they can do is continue churning out movies about Spider-Man villains.

Not gonna lie. Movie looks good. Other than mention of spiders and that weird evil spider-man symbiote looking dude, it could have just been it's own thing and I would have probably still watched it.

I swear I'll never see the word "Madame" without thinking of the French teacher joke in Rocky V.

I never thought Sony would finally forge ahead with all these "Spider-fam" character movies that don't include Spider-man.

Honestly, it looks interesting in a "wow, they really threw everything and the kitchen sink into the trailer" way. I wouldn't expect the level of quality to be anything superior to Morbius or Venom 2. Which is, to say, it'll be crap.

Hahahaha, oh my god, is this for real? It looks absolutely f*cking hilarious in the most horrible way. And that main actress is as charismatic as a sea cucumber. Great work!

If this flops -- and it will -- and Kraven flops -- which it will -- maybe Disney will be in a stronger negotiating place to finally buy back all the Spider-Man rights from Sony. And I'm really surprised Sony allowed Marvel to NOT let them use Spider-Man in their villain movies. That would be like the one thing that could have made them work. And again, we're getting a THIRD Venom movie with a Venom that hasn't even so much as crossed paths with Spider-Man? Preposterous.

Sony won't give rights up - they are too greedy for that.
Unless Gisnep outright buys them, they will clutch them to the end.

And I think its one of the few properties of theirs, which actually attracts some attention from people.

Madame Web isn't a villain. She's long been an ally of Spideys', she was a big deal in the 90s animated series, where she mentored Peter and moulded him into the champion of the multiverse

Ooooh, it‘s that horrible actress from the Fifty Shades films! What a great fit for this trainwreck.

Ohhhh okay. Love Spider-Man but my Spidey collection pretty much runs ASM volume 1 #'s 298 - 400 and a few other outliers here or there. I don't know that I've ever read a Spidey book with Madame Web in it....

Either way this looks like another stretch-use of the I.P. for more "Spider-Man clones" on-film. No pun intended about the clone thing.... :lol:

Be careful! The forum virtue-signalers will predict that this movie will do very well, just like Craptain Marvel 2! Don't want to be at odds with the opportunists by making any misstep in your communication that they can pounce on for their self-victory!

I mean, I haven't seen the Fifty Shades movies, for obvious reasons, but she seemed good in this trailer. I have no real complaints. Just that it looks good enough to stand on its won without the 'not-Spider-Man' villain.

She wasn't nearly as big of a deal in the comics when she was introduced prior to the animated series. In the books, se was very mysterious and ominous but didn't offer much in the way of enriching Peter as a character

Her most famous story from the period was "Nothing Can Stop The Juggernaught", an all time classic from Roger Stern, which actually deconstructs her whole shtick and turns her into a damsel in distress that Peter ultimately fails in protecting.

Costume reveal:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/madame-...tume-revealed/

It will make ten dollars at the box office and then the clowns here who didn't pay to see it will complain about how people are seeing "woke" everywhere they go and how this movie needed a shot.

But if only we would just stop noticing, things would be so much better. Why does it bother you so much? Etc., etc., the usual playbook.

And this is really surprising from Sony. Continuously. Here they have an opportunity to do things that Disney/Marvel wouldn't do or allow... i.e., get buried in DEI and other virtue signaling, and just do weird but provocative things that push the meter that you wouldn't dream of Disney/Marvel doing... and apparently -- instead -- this is something much worse than anything Disney/Marvel has put out of the MCU. Which has always been my complaint about stuff like Venom. Here Sony has this chance to dip their toe sort of into Marvel and do whatever they want... and they choose to do something super sanitized, and in this case even diving full bore into everything that made stuff like Birds of Prey and The Marvels fail... spectacularly.

Sony was always trying to be extra sanitized and generic.
They were never like early-MCU, which occasionally flirted with more extra ideas.

Basically, Sony's main motivation is not to make art, but to make money. They completely exclude any notion of creative process from equation, producing the most sanitized crap possible. They lucked with Raimi, but ruined his efforts and then ****ed up Webb and Garfield movies. If it was not for Marvel, I am sure third reboot of Spider-Man would have been a failure.

Sony is like opposite of Fox-men series.

Are you serious?

Maybe he is, not sure if he is but he might be.

Anyway, when it comes to the Spider-Man license, there is also the matter of maintaining that license. They know the possibility of losing it is always there, so sometimes, they will just make a movie at the lowest possible budget just to be sure Disney doesn't take over.

Yeah, yeah, I made a funny. :lol:

What I should have said is that Sony doesn't really care about any artistic merit of their projects, unlike early-DC and early-Marvel. They just copypaste most used formulas and call it a day.

No surprise early reviews are coming out and shocker its another Sony Stinker

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