Unrest in Sri Lanka
 

Sri Lanka experiences an economic crisis. Mass protests have begun, and President Gotabaya Rajapaksa has escaped to the Maldives in a military jet airplane.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-62132271

Good for them. They are showing US what a real insurrection looks like

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Is it really insurrection when you win? Lol

It would be "a successful insurrection" and not "an attempted insurrection," no?

Revolution? Maybe. Sure. Tyrants lost but what kind of leadership will emerge now?

That's what happens at the end of all insurrections/mass protests. You're left with an uncertainty vacuum and nobody really knows what to do with all the 'freedom' they have so control is needed once again, and that brings with it a whole other set of problems because everyone has a different idea of what authority should represent...and sides are taken when they eventually settle down and have to debate that, which creates entirely different camps, some of which will probably protest whatever side wins out in an election and as soon as that new governing body f*cks up.

Yeah, this about sums it up.

Kind of funny because many of the same people who turn their noses down on socialism and communism, will unironically throw out 'anarchy' as the correct form of government. Just like socialism and communism have failed, anarchy has also failed whenever it's been initiated because, at the end of the day, human beings can't and don't want to govern themselves. After 2020, it should be obvious to people, especially the conservatives who cheer on anarchy, that humans want a 'daddy' to tell them how to live. They need someone to guide them. Inherently, having a leader isn't a bad thing, of course, but...we end up coming back around to having elections, politicians, corruption, etc eventually. All the same societal problems spring up with a slightly different flavor. It's an endless cycle, and humanity never learns.

I've yet to see any conservatives pushing for an anarchy.

I see it mostly in other places online, but I see a lot of conservative/right leaning types who say the "best government is no government". When it comes to conservatives, I see a splintered view on what the 'best' form of government to be. I've also known nutcases who think we should all be governed under the Christian bible and church, as if that's going to be automatically less draconian.

It doesn't make any sense.
By their very nature Conservatives for Anarchy is a nonsense.

Conservatives tend to like LESS government, maybe significantly less government, but certainly not no government.

Maybe the ones you know.

And I dunno, some conservatives seem fine with more government if it's for stuff they approve of. :oops:

I'm sure there are a few conservatives that feel that way, maybe, but 1000%, hand over fist it is way, way more the left that wants to expand government for exactly that sentiment. For the stuff they approve of (generally all kinds of climate change stuff, LGBTQ stuff, expanding "voting rights," etc.). They are super loud about it and you see and hear their wishes to this end everywhere, everyday. This isn't remotely a secret and not remotely comparable to any alleged conservatives wanting more government.

Both sides are loud, and obnoxious about what they want.

Normally I'd agree that it's The Left who wants bigger government and more control. But with conservatives pushing to ban contraceptives and institute checkpoints at the states' borders to trap pregnant women, as well as overturn gay marriage, I can't in good conscience agree that the Right wants the government to have "less control". Many of them openly want a Christofascist police state and aren't shy about it.

Extremism has always been "the real enemy", but now everything is so polarized that there's nobody left on either side BUT extremists. So we're in for some very tough road ahead.

More control, sure. But not bigger government. Though the left wants to control more things than the right is interested in controlling. And only one side is interested in banning free speech.

Which conservatives are calling for a ban on contraceptives?

Personally, I want The Gov out of Marriage completely... its none of their damn business.

Only people I've heard of wanting state border patrols is for people who aren't vaxxed and thats Lunatic Leftists... Name the conservatives calling for Pregnant checks at state borders? All the ones I know just want people to accept responsibility for their own actions & stop demanding that everyone else pay for whatever it is they don't want to deal with themselves because of those poor life choices. And we'd kind of like you to stop murdering the unborn.

The Right isn't looking to control speech, lock people in their homes, fire people for not being poised by the Fed/Big Pharma.

Frankly, if its not described in the COTUS as a Fed thing, it belongs as a State Level thing & up to the voters.

I'd argue that losing the freedom to DO what you want trumps losing the freedom to SAY what you want. Both are important, but Actions are bigger than Words.

And I'd also argue that having a "small government" where the fewer individuals involved hold even greater authority over everyone else isn't any "better" than a larger and more invasive government. It's just as lousy from the other direction. Worse when the few hands guiding that "smaller government" take their values from a fairy tale book written by people who thought gravity was something a wizard made happen.

The Left wants a large government that forces you to behave Exactly As They Say You Should. The Right wants a small government that STILL forces you to behave Exactly As They Say You Should.

The only difference I see at this point, is the prospective number of bureaucrats left "in charge" when all's said and done, and that most Liberals don't believe in what the fairy tale book says. They may want slightly different things on a smaller scale, but on a macro scale both sides are turning into the Gestapo a lot faster than they want to admit.

You lean too hard into either side of the political spectrum, you end up with fascists. That's where we're at now; two groups of fascists arguing that their specific flavor of fascism is gonna go down smoother than the other team's.

The actual primary tenet of most people who lean even slightly right is a belief in our way of life which means that capitalism allows for ingenuity and personal success. E.g., less government because it's "on us to do it". The middle and right tend to say "give me the tools I need to build my dream in this country" to government.

The primary tenet of the left, especially the far left is beyond the shadow of a doubt "take it off of me, hide in the group for my own well being and have the government deliver what I need and want". The left and far left tend to say "give me what I need to survive and make me happy" to government.

What I've said will be argued as "opinion" by most leftist, but it is hard fact and part of the polarizing process. The words I've used above encapsulates the social leanings within the political science.

States' Rights is bullsh*t. It's just a way for people who want Bad Things to argue they should be allowed to have Bad Things as long as their "community" agrees with them.

There are people Right Now in states like Texas and Mississippi who argue that desegregated schools "ruined" the public school system. More than half a century since it was "a settled issue", people are still banging the drum that their little Klan Members In Training shouldn't have to sit on the bus or at the lunch table with a black kid. And lest we forget, the only way desegregation even happened was by armed soldiers escorting little black children into those schools to protect them. Otherwise they'd have been lynched, and that would be allowed, if left up to the people in those states. And people are actively pushing to set us back to that point in time, arguing that all the racial tension recently "proves" that "segregation doesn't work, we need to stick to our own for everyone's benefit." And some of those people have Actual Power to see it done, if allowed.

Sometimes "progress" can't be left up to individuals, because people are bigoted and stupid. Sometimes you HAVE to force it and tell them "Tough luck if you don't like it." Otherwise nothing ever gets done.

If "States' Rights" were allowed to gain traction, half the country would still have Whites Only signs everywhere, and you'd be allowed to kick gay people out of your restaurant just for being gay. Right now in Tennessee, they're trying to allow businesses to put up "No Jews Allowed" signs and refuse service, so long as there's another business in the immediate area that will serve the Jews. Tell me that doesn't sound like Nazi Germany in its formative years and I'll laugh in your f*cking face.

"States' Rights" is nonsense. It's nothing but a way for a group of idiots to say, "We should be ALLOWED to be idiots, as long as everyone in this neighborhood agrees!" Nope. One country, one set of rules, at least as far as things that Actually Matter.

We're headed right back to a segregated society. Both the left and the right (yes, don't f*cking deny that the right is pushing for this as well) continue to chant that they want segregation, and to keep different cultures and race from 'mixing'. It's so depressing that all the progress that was made decades ago is becoming undone. But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing signs with stuff like "No Whites Allowed" and "No Blacks/Jews/LGBT/Latinos/Asians Allowed". We'll see more and more rights stripped as well until we all end up living in a dystopian nightmare where we have to risk being rejected from buying a bag of chips due to not meeting some criteria the shop owners set. Fun times up ahead.

I was with you until this pesky little spot. No, this isn't a thing.

Oh, jeez. You honestly think there's no racism coming from the right? :lol:

Not really, no. I'm sure in some pockets of maybe the south you could find some if you really wanted to or maybe people over the age of 80 mumbling about "n****rs" in nursing homes, I guess. What I DO see is alarming amounts of open and loud racism coming from the left. It's everywhere and even encouraged, and now it's being baked in the classrooms.

Try going to a forum or board that has a majority of right-wingers (or even Twitter circles that have right-wingers), and announce that you're female, a minority, and/or LGBT+, or any other criteria that right-wingers deem to be 'The Enemy', and watch them proceed to tear you apart no matter what you say to them. Even when I've agreed with them, they don't give a damn. I represent 'The Enemy', and that's that.

I've seen them do this to others too. There's no civility from the left or right. Like Leo said, both sides are now a majority of extremists who want to troll the other side, even when it means ruining themselves. Even in this forum, anyone who leans left even ever so slightly is labeled a 'libtard' until 'proven otherwise', or leans right even ever so slightly, and is labeled a bigot. :roll:

Both sides are extremely bigoted, in my experience. I hate them both now, and I think the mania and obsession with politics is ruining society. Go ahead, and call me names or whatever. I don't give a f*ck anymore.

I believe you (though I suspect you are exaggerating a bit, as you're known to do), but none of that has anything to with race or culture. Female isn't a race or a culture. LGBTQ isn't a race or a culture, no matter how badly they want to pretend it is something more than just what kind of people they want to rub private parts with.

As long as we're talking about the far left and the far right, sure. But in general, just talking about the left in general and the right in general? No. Wrong.

I'm not exaggerating, but thanks for letting me know that I now have a reputation for basically being a liar. :ohwell:

Far left and far right are basically all I see anymore. Go find someone who's a true centrist who doesn't react the way the members of each 'team' do. It's a rarity now.

You just proved my point. Now the word "exaggerate" means "lie," in your book?

The true centrists are the most quiet ones of the bunch, by far. They don't want to ruffle any feathers on either side and they're not interested in broadcasting to the world where they stand on politics. So "finding" them would be like playing hide and seek blindfolded in the deep forest.

Not really. You guys basically act like everything I say is a blatant lie nowadays whilst patting me on the head in the most condescending way possible. This just confirms what my real reputation is.

And really, exaggeration is, essentially, lying. It's twisting the truth around to make matters seem different than they truly are, which is lying.

I don't see any of those, online or offline. Everyone's a political expert nowadays, and aren't shy about screaming out their opinions. I even witness this in public since people like to, loudly, discuss politics over their meals at restaurants or hanging out at the mall or whatever.

I don't know what's with this obsession of yours with finding ways you're a victim all the time but it's not a good look. Also not healthy.

Well, I can relate. Yes. Lots of people very loudly are suddenly political experts. The same way as soon as there's articles about, "Elon Musk might pull out of buying Twitter! Also, he's a republican now!" suddenly everyone is a legal expert, or with COVID everyone is a disease expert, and so on.

Awesome, Andy. I don't care. If you don't like it, you can block me, and stop reading my 'exaggerations'.

it seems people nowadays who identify as “centrists” simply do so cause they don’t wanna be associated with “orange man bad drumpf” that tells me they still believe in mainstream media talking points

at this point you’re either for America and freedom, or for NWO. (D) or (R) is meaningless now, there’s evil on both sides, but obviously more evil on the left

the left loves killing 9 month old babies, loves criminals, soft on crime, letting rapists and terrorists into the country thru open borders, release prisoners cause of “covid”, unconstitutional mask and vaccine mandates, giving billions of US tax dollars away to other countries, lgbtqia+ indoctrination in schools, i could go on an on….

anyone with half a brain knows Trump only wanted the best for this country, and the world

"Pockets"?? Try the ENTIRE south! It's literally rampant from Georgia to Texas. We still have people down here who talk about lynchings as "the good ole' days", and entirecTOWNS that are still (de facto, if not legally) "Sunset towns". And yes, it's MOSTLY from hard-core conservatives down here. They literally want every town in every southern state to be black/asian/latin/LGBTQ-free. And they are trying to do just that, or at the least, go back to completely segregated neighborhoods. Rural areas are the worst. The right down here don't even care if immigrants are legal, they want them ALL gone. And all the LGBTQ, too. Some openly talk about how "they need to die"! It's sick and disturbing.

Sounds like the inverse of the extreme left. They want segregation too and also wish certain groups of people would just drop dead or need to die.

This is why more and more political experts are certain we're headed for civil war. We're certainly at an extreme impasse, with both sides having been taken over by extremists and nobody having any interest in compromise.

Six months ago, I would have said it was nonsense. But I've been doing a lot of reading and some experts say we're already there, or at least at the point of no return.

To be clear, the image some people have of the country literally splitting in two, forming their own armies and such, isn't what they mean by "civil war". What they're referring to is a "citizens' war" played out as a series of insurrections. Riots, destruction of property, vandalism, fighting in the streets, that sort of thing. And by that criteria... Then yeah, We Are Already There. And it IS going to get worse.

Both parties have been hijacked by extremists who want everyone to "pick a side and take a stand". And gullible people believe their "side" is infallibly pure and decent and the other is Pure Evil. This is what you get.

Everybody who votes is to some degree "radicalized", now. Moderates stay out of it because they see how full of sh*t both sides are from opposite extremes, BUT they/we are overwhelmed and outnumbered by fanatics.

Sad state of affairs, but this is how it goes. I really don't see any way back, at this point.

Funny thing, that both sides are supported by the same corporations and politicians, which makes the whole thing look like a spectacle, for the sake of distracting people from real enemies - elites.

On this we agree.

The only true "war" has always been Rich vs. Poor, and it's always been that way. Everything else is just a distraction. The sickest part of how radicalized people have become through politics is that they cite and follow leaders who don't ACTUALLY believe in or stand for what they claim to. A lot of Democrats are racist and a lot of Republicans get abortions, just for example. The virtues they signal are false. It's all an act. People "take sides" and forget that they're lining up to stand behind people who don't care about them, who don't actually represent them, who profess false beliefs.

The first step to reverse course would be, a LOT of people (on both sides) would have to stand up and say, "I was suckered," and we all know nobody ever does that. So instead, they dig in deeper and get more and more radicalized.

I'm wise enough to know that anarchy isn't a sustainable "solution" for being taken advantage of by a corrupt government. But... at least it would be honest.

I'm not an anarchist because I know it doesn't actually "work."

I AM however a nihilist, because I don't think anything else actually does, either. All systems inevitably collapse, that's Nature. The only constant is Entropy.

More and more experts agree that there simply won't be a United States in 50 years, and I'm rather inclined by this point to agree with those people.

The new president of Sri Lanka is WEF puppet Ranil Wickremesinghe. Not good.