Avengers The Kang Dynasty
 

https://i.imgur.com/CEYVVac.jpg

So that's confirmation that Kang the Conqueror only dips his toe into Ant-Man 3.

But the actual Avengers won't be in it though, possible exception Thor.

Finally, some actual direction for the franchise. Why we could not have gotten this slate in the first place is beyond me.

Diversity comes first. We needed the first Asian hero. The first diverse whatever the **** Eternals was. The first girl with two moms in Multiverse of Madness. Bisexual Valkyrie as King of Asgard. That was way more important.

And if we weren't allowed to say Loki was bi... bam, scrap the entire MCU.

Interesting that they don't mention Secret Wars. Maybe these two films aren't connected in the same way that Endgame & Infinity War are?

Or maybe not.

I've seen Shang-Chi once. Thought it was okay until I nearly fell asleep in the third-act. Hard to blame the director for that at this point. I think I'll try to watch Shang-Chi again though.

Eternals had an Indian and Muslim superhero, and the first on-screen gay kiss.

Shang Chi was generic as they come - pretty picture, good actors, ****** script, which killed advantage of the first two things.
So, I guess, if script is good, movie will be good.

However, with next to zero build up, I don't think it will have the same effect as IW/EG.

Jeff Loveness, screenwriter for Quantamania, is writing Avengers The Kang Dynasty

https://deadline.com/2022/09/marvel-...ty-1235118412/

Rumour is Jeff Loveless has been dropped as the writer following the reception of Quantamania

But aren't many of the story problem due to reshoots and not the script he provided? Sure, the script itself likely had problems but if the stuff people complain about stem from the production deciding to deviate from it, then you shouldn't blame the writer for that.

Someone's head needed to roll, so he was the fall guy. You know the woke types never ever blame themselves. It's 'never their fault'.

Its less "woke" and more how corporations roll.

AVENGERS: THE KANG DYNASTY
Previously dated on 5/2/25 moves to 5/1/26

https://www.marvel.com/articles/movi...lease-schedule

Um... that's quite a bump.

Guess, recasting Kang is in the works, or they just hope that Majors won't be ruined though and through.

Majors trial set for August

https://deadline.com/2023/06/jonatha...el-1235420570/

Yeah, and Avengers movie without the actual Avengers in it will be a tough sell. I mean, if they wanted to go with Kamala and the rest, call it Young Avengers or something.

Probably it will be black Captain America, Thor, Hulk and She-Hulk, the Marvels, Shang-Chi, and Captain Two Moms with the most important part. And we'll likely get Evil RDJ Iron Man and SOME kind of Steve Rogers something. Rocket's new Guardians might show up, too.

We don't know how true it will be to the comic story of the same name but you could tell that story with almost any combination of Avengers. Strangely of all the talk about the roster I haven't seen anyone anywhere mention we've got an 80s Avengers mainstays in the MCU now.

Monica Rambeau
Namor
Sersi
Black Knight
She-Hulk
Hercules
Moon Knight
Vision (white variant)
Wanda will certainly be back and we've got Wonder Man incoming.

I imagine if they can tempt RDJ and/or Chris Evans back they will save them for Secret Wars.

Drop him and recast, He'll be box office poison, see Eraz Miller.

Even the return of Michael Keaton isn't helping at DC. But I would assume RDJ returning would be a much bigger deal.

Just recast, Unless Majors has an Iron clad contract. Like a 4-5 movie pay or play deal. But I can't see Disney offering him an A-list salary anyways.

No Marvel Studios panel at Comic Con Hall H this year

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/mo...on-1235520144/

It must be to protect people from the misogyny. There is no other explanation.

And now it is without a director.
Ouch.

It could be without a lot of things soon lol. Marvel is a goddamn mess atm

Majors is basically finished (as an actor and a respectable person).
So, its either recast or rewrite.

Recast. With all the variant crap it wouldn't even be hard to come up with an in-story explanation for why he suddenly looks different. And hell, we still haven't even met the "Real" Kang yet.

"I don't deserve it. I should just kill myself." Yeesh.

Good. Let him follow the same rules as everybody else. They sure don't hesitate to fire someone 'on the wrong side of history' when they **** up. Do to the same to 'one of their own'.

Yikes! Wow, just wow

I'd prefer if they removed Kang entirely.
I don't know about comic books, but even I new who Thanos and Doom are. This guy...not so much.

I feel about him like the Inhumans. With the Inhumans, I know they're a big force in Marvel and had a failed TV show... but I don't know anything about them in the comics or anything so I don't care beyond knowing I probably would care if I knew more about them. Same with Kang. I don't know anything about him other than I know he's a big deal in the comics and now Jonathan Majors is causing toxicity problems for the character.

I mean, they've already committed to things steering towards a full-on Kang thing so they can't just suddenly be like, "Nah, just kidding." But what they can do is now make the "full-on Kang thing" just a side thing on the way to a bigger thing with Dr. Doom or Galactus or something.

Yea same with me

Oh boy, this is going to be fun to explain. Short version, he is the alleged descendant of Reed Richards and/or Doctor Doom and because he's a time traveller with the whole "advanced technology might as well be magic" thing going on, he keeps running into himself from different eras using different aliases to reflect his current ideals and can come into conflict with them. You can kind of think of him as the Doctor from Doctor Who if he couldn't get along with his various incarnations.

Now for the weird stuff. He has had these various identities and may have even more:

1. Iron Lad
2. Kid Immortus
3. Rama-Tut
4. Scarlet Centurion
5. Kang
6. Mister Gryphon
7. Doctor Doom (don't worry, Victor Von Doom is a separate character)
8. Victor Timely
9. Immortus (not quite the same as Kid Immortus)

In order for all of this to make sense, they explain that he tends to get mindwiped, split into paradox copies and simply reverts back to previous alter egos. Oh and of course, he also meets straight up alternate reality counterparts of himself who are not part of the time travel thing but have their own time travel thing going on. And because the Scarlet Centurion has a counterpart as an enemy of the Squadron Supreme, who are themselves pastiches of the Justice League, it's possible he's also a pseudo-counterpart to Metron, Chronos, Per Degaton, Thawne or Vandal Savage. Then there is also bizarre nonsense like how he was used to retcon the Vision from simply being an android created by Ultron, to instead being… Ugh… A time travel paradox duplicate of the original Human Torch reprogrammed with a copy of Wonder Man's mind as his AI.


The MCU seems to have simplified all this to just make the alternate versions of him alternate universe counterparts instead of the same exact person travelling through time, but he is still a weird choice because the mere fact that the entire gimmick is about him having alternate counterparts, will invariably make things complicated.

The whole thing about the alternate identities also means that if you are only familiar with Marvel through adaptations, you'd probably never know this guy is in Earth's Mightiest Heroes, X-Men TAS and X-Men Evolution, simply because he uses different identities in each.

Explain? I don't remember him in X-Men TAS or Evolution?

I feel like all this venture in the multiverse was to establish Kang. But Marvel did such a ****** job with it, so they barely established it beyond a useless gimmick and failed to establish Kang as serious and a persistent threat, unlike Thanos.

In general, from what I've read, Kang is so confusing as a character, its better to replace him with someone less confusing.

IN Apocalypse's backstory episode in ancient Egypt, Kang appears in his rama tut incarnation.No mention of him also being kang.

https://x-menevolution.fandom.com/wiki/Rama-Tut

Yup. As for X-Men TAS, he's in the episode "End and Beginning" in which he first shows up as a seemingly original character but right at the end her turns into his Immortus Persona. X-Men TAS was a bit weird about using other Marvel characters, Spider-Man TAS may have used the X-Men from X-Men TAS for several episodes but X-Men TAS itself was only allowed to show Spider-Man's hand.

Honestly if they wanted to do that, we needed some Thanos-ish scenes here and there to tie em together.

Like Dr. Strange's movie dealt with the multiverse directly. They really needed some end-scene or cameo of Kang saying something like 'the poor fools don't know what they're trifling with'.

Of course that would only have made things more awkward when the actor would get in trouble years later.....

And the Quantumania appearance didn't even make sense. If you're a Kang from the Quantum Realm within a certain Earth, doesn't that still make you the Kang of that Earth? And if we're to believe other Kangs weren't created until female Loki killed him at the End of Time, how was the Quantum Realm Kang stranded there for so long?