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Mayhem 08-04-2022 05:26 PM

Alex Jones down $4M
 
Best get that GoFundMe running, or OnlyFans, or wrongly claim bankruptcy…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62427918

neatoman 08-04-2022 05:37 PM

Oh no! No Alex Jones! He's too valuable to lose, think of all the memes and remix videos we'll miss out on!?



1987 08-04-2022 07:53 PM

Meet Maya Gamble, the judge who just ordered Alex Jones to pay $4.1 Million in damages

https://i.imgur.com/InX90RQ.png?1

The Deadman 08-04-2022 09:01 PM

Good, f*ck Alex Jones and the stupid **** he spews out of his mouth.

Andrew NDB 08-05-2022 05:34 PM

45.2 million, actually.

I don't like the guy and I think he's a loon and I agree what he said about Sandy Hook was nuts and in extremely bad taste. That said... his saying nutty stuff on his crazy talk show where he routinely says crazy stuff really caused the parents of the victims 45.2 million dollars in damages? What are the damages? Were they watching his show and it gave them panic attacks (if so, why were they watching it), or what are we saying here exactly?

Sure seems like an attack on free speech to me.

Mayhem 08-05-2022 06:20 PM

Yeah just seen, the $45M is on top, so close to $50M.

Some of what he was saying caused a few of his followers to level death threats et al at the parents, if that isn’t incitement, I don’t know what is. You can also say he profited from his lies too, although with the disclosure that he perjured himself AND has info on the Capitol attack, that’s more fire coming his way.

Saying this is against free speech is the same as cheering when someone Muslim brainwashed idiot pukes anti American kill the heretic infidel rhetoric really…

IndigoErth 08-05-2022 06:35 PM

A loss of money feels like no kind of justice. The fact that this creep gets rich off of hurting already hurt people, such as those parents of murdered kids, and feels totally okay with it is so despicably vile and makes me wish that hell was real. Rush Limbaugh needs to crawl his ass up from there and drag Alex Jones back down with him. The Alex Jones real life arc needs an Ebenezer Scrooge ending...without the redemption, just ends with the last visit.

ChosenOne 08-05-2022 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 1987 (Post 1940584)
Meet Maya Gamble, the judge who just ordered Alex Jones to pay $4.1 Million in damages

https://i.imgur.com/InX90RQ.png?1

Nope, no bias there! :roll:

Andrew NDB 08-05-2022 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayhem (Post 1940713)
Some of what he was saying caused a few of his followers to level death threats et al at the parents, if that isn’t incitement, I don’t know what is.

Well what did he say? If he wasn't telling people to do that, or even something close to that (maybe he did? I don't know but I'm guessing no) then no, that isn't incitement.

Mayhem 08-06-2022 05:19 PM

It doesn’t have to cover that. Just the proof that what was said triggered the person in question to commit the acts. However incitement itself isn’t a criminal offence until what was directly being requested itself was illegal. So Alex Jones under law isn’t guilty of that.

The Deadman 08-07-2022 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1940727)
Nope, no bias there! :roll:

The dude is an idiot, there's no bias. He deserved everything he got.

member_removed 08-08-2022 07:07 AM

He's a total $h!t c**t. He deserves everything that's coming to him.

ChosenOne 08-08-2022 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1940899)
The dude is an idiot, there's no bias. He deserved everything he got.

And that woke joke of a judge makes two.

1987 08-08-2022 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1940598)
Good, f*ck Alex Jones and the stupid **** he spews out of his mouth.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1940899)
The dude is an idiot, there's no bias. He deserved everything he got.

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Originally Posted by member_removed (Post 1940940)
He's a total $h!t c**t. He deserves everything that's coming to him.

This trial is one of the most openly biased, and bigoted, trials that the world has ever seen, up there with J6. Democratic Fascism at it’s finest. If it was truly about “spreading misinformation” than why haven’t CNN, Dr Fauci, Dr Birx, etc all had similar trials? They lie to the public all the time on mainstream media. I guess it’s (D)ifferent for them.

Clearly the NWO has a stronghold over this case, Sandy Hook is just the cover, what they’re really going after Mr. Jones for is because all his “conspiracy theories” are coming true. Watch “Endgame” where he predicts everything that is happening now. Watch “Obama Deception” where he exposes the truth about Hussein. He’s been exposing the New World Order, Biden, laptop, everything. This is how they silence him, he’s a bigger threat to the NWO than Trump. Trump has to hold back a bit since he’s a politician, but Mr. Jones just goes for the throat.

Y’all liberals think you’re part of the elite and that you’re “in on it”, but, hate to break it to you, you’re in for a big surprise.

Walk away from the Democratic Plantation, before it’s too late.

https://i.imgur.com/UJpbe8G.png?1

ChosenOne 08-08-2022 11:12 AM

That drawing is wildly inaccurate, in that leftards wouldn't even get a chance to beg.

Autbot_Benz 08-08-2022 11:20 AM

Wow 1987 actually believes What Alex Jones says. I am not surprised just more proof he is a mentally unstable lunatic :lol:

Andrew NDB 08-08-2022 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mayhem (Post 1940809)
It doesn’t have to cover that. Just the proof that what was said triggered the person in question to commit the acts.

No, that's not the way that works. No one can control what triggers anybody to do anything. Unless you're saying "Do this act! Now!" that's not a real thing.

Same as Trump's "incitement" to cause a non-insurrection when he just said march peacefully.

FredWolfLeonardo 08-08-2022 12:49 PM

The man with the gun in the drawing looks like Benito Mussolini.

ChosenOne 08-08-2022 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1940970)
The man with the gun in the drawing looks like Benito Mussolini.

I can't say who the useful idiot looks like 'cause it would probably get me banned.

The Deadman 08-08-2022 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1987 (Post 1940958)
This trial is one of the most openly biased, and bigoted, trials that the world has ever seen, up there with J6. Democratic Fascism at it’s finest. If it was truly about “spreading misinformation” than why haven’t CNN, Dr Fauci, Dr Birx, etc all had similar trials? They lie to the public all the time on mainstream media. I guess it’s (D)ifferent for them.

Clearly the NWO has a stronghold over this case, Sandy Hook is just the cover, what they’re really going after Mr. Jones for is because all his “conspiracy theories” are coming true. Watch “Endgame” where he predicts everything that is happening now. Watch “Obama Deception” where he exposes the truth about Hussein. He’s been exposing the New World Order, Biden, laptop, everything. This is how they silence him, he’s a bigger threat to the NWO than Trump. Trump has to hold back a bit since he’s a politician, but Mr. Jones just goes for the throat.

Y’all liberals think you’re part of the elite and that you’re “in on it”, but, hate to break it to you, you’re in for a big surprise.

Walk away from the Democratic Plantation, before it’s too late.

https://i.imgur.com/UJpbe8G.png?1

Not a liberal, you buffoon, you would know that if youve seen my posts in previous political threads. Point is he f*cked around and found out what happens when you tell parents who lost their kids that they're liars. Cope.

The Deadman 08-08-2022 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1940943)
And that woke joke of a judge makes two.

A right wing judge would have made the same decision.

Andrew NDB 08-08-2022 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1940995)
Point is he f*cked around and found out what happens when you tell parents who lost their kids that they're liars.

But, that's not a crime. It's a horrible thing to do, of course.

The Deadman 08-08-2022 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1940999)
But, that's not a crime. It's a horrible thing to do, of course.

He's not going to jail over this though, he's just being sued. Not every court case is criminal.

Andrew NDB 08-08-2022 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1941000)
He's not going to jail over this though, he's just being sued. Not every court case is criminal.

So the right to free speech... but you might have to pay money if you say something that isn't even inciteful in and of itself? You're just one bleeding heart liberal judge away from owing millions?

I don't care if Alex Jones gets hit by a car tomorrow but I don't like the precedent this sets.

Galactus 08-08-2022 04:31 PM

These are also defamation cases. So he's not being sued for encouraging his audience of insane idiots to go harass the families of the Sandy Hook victims he's being sued for lying that they were 'crisis actors'. The fact that they've been harassed and threatened for years is the consequence of his lies.

Andrew NDB 08-08-2022 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus (Post 1941003)
These are also defamation cases. So he's not being sued for encouraging his audience of insane idiots to go harass the families of the Sandy Hook victims he's being sued for lying that they were 'crisis actors'. The fact that they've been harassed and threatened for years is the consequence of his lies.

Well, if we're strictly talking in terms of defamation of character, slander and/or libel then yes. Though I'd like to see a quantification of how Alex Jones did 45 million dollars worth of damage to them.

The Deadman 08-08-2022 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1941002)
So the right to free speech... but you might have to pay money if you say something that isn't even inciteful in and of itself? You're just one bleeding heart liberal judge away from owing millions?

I don't care if Alex Jones gets hit by a car tomorrow but I don't like the precedent this sets.

You also dont have the right to tell a parent their kid isnt dead and keep pushing that narrative on national radio/television/whatever else without consequence. That sets a bad precedent as well.

ChosenOne 08-08-2022 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1940996)
A right wing judge would have made the same decision.

A right-wing judge making a non-biased decision with similar results doesn't mean this one wasn't biased.

Mayhem 10-12-2022 07:08 PM

Dr Evil pinky in mouth moment :o:lol:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63237092

Prowler 10-12-2022 09:53 PM

Alex Jones is just another person who's "famous" and gets way more attention than they deserve. Just like most "internet celebrities" nowadays.

I had no idea who the hell Andrew Tate was until some weeks ago when everyone on social media suddenly began talking about him.

I'm starting to think youtube was a mistake.

The Deadman 10-12-2022 09:59 PM

This is your reminder that it's probably not a good idea to get on every social platform you're apart of to tell parents that their kids aren't actually dead and that everything was a hoax.

Then when the parents are tired of your sh*t and go the legal route, you tell them it's all part of the act. Alex Jones is the real crisis actor here.

Andrew NDB 10-12-2022 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1941005)
You also dont have the right to tell a parent their kid isnt dead and keep pushing that narrative on national radio/television/whatever else without consequence.

I mean, don't you? If I start a podcast and push the idea that the crew of the Challenger didn't really blow up, they went into a wormhole and are alive in another part of the galaxy... I should be fined millions? How, if we're being serious about free speech?

I could understand if what I'm saying is somehow causing a financial blow to someone, then there could be a case there for "damages." But you'd have to have a pretty good case and actually show that.

Leo656 10-12-2022 11:47 PM

People sue and win for "intentional infliction of emotional distress" all the time, as well as "instigation of harassment". Many of the victims' parents have been stalked and harassed and had violent threats made against them, and when questioned about it the stalkers and harassers always say, with pride, "I heard it on Alex Jones."

You can't with a straight face say this guy is somehow blameless. Nor he is the kind of guy who deserves even one shred of defense or benefit of the doubt. He's a grifter, he gets rich peddling misery. That's his one and only function; hiding behind "free speech" doesn't make him any less of a parasite.

mrmaczaps 10-13-2022 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1940705)
45.2 million, actually.

I don't like the guy and I think he's a loon and I agree what he said about Sandy Hook was nuts and in extremely bad taste. That said... his saying nutty stuff on his crazy talk show where he routinely says crazy stuff really caused the parents of the victims 45.2 million dollars in damages? What are the damages? Were they watching his show and it gave them panic attacks (if so, why were they watching it), or what are we saying here exactly?

Sure seems like an attack on free speech to me.

It is an attack on free speech... nothing more. Its all hype & bullsh*t and it should terrify EVERY (sane) person. Anyone applauding this is applauding their own end & those people are fvcking stupid. Get in the box car peasant.

mrmaczaps 10-13-2022 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1941005)
You also dont have the right to tell a parent their kid isnt dead and keep pushing that narrative on national radio/television/whatever else without consequence. That sets a bad precedent as well.

Bullsh*t. You either believe in freedom or you don't. Sounds like you don't.

The Deadman 10-13-2022 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmaczaps (Post 1946801)
Bullsh*t. You either believe in freedom or you don't. Sounds like you don't.

Sounds like you're okay with pushing a false narrative and then having a fanbase harass the people you're pushing the narrative on, on the basis of "free speech". Sounds something like a Democrat would be for.

The Deadman 10-13-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1946755)
People sue and win for "intentional infliction of emotional distress" all the time, as well as "instigation of harassment". Many of the victims' parents have been stalked and harassed and had violent threats made against them, and when questioned about it the stalkers and harassers always say, with pride, "I heard it on Alex Jones."

You can't with a straight face say this guy is somehow blameless. Nor he is the kind of guy who deserves even one shred of defense or benefit of the doubt. He's a grifter, he gets rich peddling misery. That's his one and only function; hiding behind "free speech" doesn't make him any less of a parasite.

This. But you know, the crybabies are gonna go "Its an attack on free speech!" Cry harder.

Andrew NDB 10-13-2022 10:45 AM

Looked into this a little more. So apparently we're talking about Jones originally talking about this conspiracy theory a grand total of about 24 minutes over a couple shows almost a decade ago before he pretty quickly apologized (apparently 12 times, and long before there was any talk of a lawsuit), said he was wrong and never brought it up ever again. Also, he never brought up any of the parents' names or anything. It was Hillary's people who dredged up those 24 minutes to wave around in the media to try and use it as a smear against Trump, by association, in 2016.

So yeah. There wasn't any damages. Maybe by Hillary's people, for dredging up the aforementioned 24 minutes and making that front page news everywhere and repeatedly.

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1946755)
People sue and win for "intentional infliction of emotional distress" all the time, as well as "instigation of harassment".

See "frivolous lawsuits."

Quote:

Many of the victims' parents have been stalked and harassed and had violent threats made against them, and when questioned about it the stalkers and harassers always say, with pride, "I heard it on Alex Jones."
Yeah, that's been debunked. He didn't tell or suggest anyone to do anything like that and there aren't any quotes to that end. This is the same as "Trump directed people to storm the capitol!" when there is nothing in what he said to remotely suggest that. Might as well be "the Devil made me do it."

Meaningless.

Quote:

You can't with a straight face say this guy is somehow blameless.
"Blame" implies there is some act that there would either be responsibility or innocence from. What are we talking about here? Blame in what? Parents claiming they're damaged somehow and need to be multi millionaires now because of what someone said on a podcast known to be nutty for 24 minutes almost ten years ago? Give me a break.

IMJ 10-13-2022 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1940999)
But, that's not a crime. It's a horrible thing to do, of course.

It's a social judgement - but you know what? I think he should pay something to those families for digging in so deeply on his conspiracy theories. But I also think the judgements against him are way too steep and outlandish.

Basically Jones became the public face for vengeance from the life-angry over a terrible event, even in this thread you can tell by some of the pathetic posters jerking themselves off over their strange "win". So Jones should pay those families because there likely was some form of slander and libel involved. But Jones didn't kill anybody and he was ordered to pay way too much money to those people, as if he did kill someone.

To anyone getting a serotonin boost from this news - be careful you life-angry, fist-pumping f&(ks. The social-crediting will come for you more easily - after all you are just another peasant @$$hole like the rest of us and not rich and powerful like Loudmouth Alex Jones. If the mob got him for a billion, it will easily get you for your nonsense. The only difference is that it will be through small-action sabotage and finger-pointing... you know... to match your life-levels.

As with all things I look for the real when people communicate - opinions don't bother me at all, but it's different when you can see the truth of people that the opinions are covering up. They make caricatures out of these people in movies... or at least they used to...

https://i.imgur.com/Zp03zfb.gif

Leo656 10-13-2022 02:46 PM

So because "free speech", people should be allowed to very loudly and repeatedly lie, even after those lies have incited other people towards violence and harassment, because "lying and spreading disinformation is a victimless crime"? Bullsh*t.

You guys are seriously f*cking cracked with this far-right stuff. It's not an all-or-nothing game. When you can clearly SEE a person is as spectacularly full of sh*t as someone like Alex Jones, and that his disciples take his rhetoric to the ugliest of extremes, you can't in good conscience continue to sit there and defend them by saying "Well he can technically say whatever he wants to!"

Lawsuits are how you try and correct this kind of thing in a society that insists you can't punch someone in the face for being an unrepentant asshole. Ideally, violence would be acceptable in this kind of situation when it's abundantly clear that the guy in question is doing no good whatsoever on this Earth. But since you can't legally smack them, you have to smack them through the legal system itself. It's the only way it stops.

Liars cannot be allowed to lie, especially when their lies have an enormous trickle-down effect on other people.

I'm not even gonna front, if I was a parent and one of MY kids had been killed in a school shooting, and some scumbag like this was going around saying "Nah, never happened," I 100% would have killed the guy already myself. These people suing him are way, WAY nicer than I am. Whatever losses he accrues are a much lighter penalty than a guy like him deserves.

Y'all need better f*cking heroes, man. Alex f*cking Jones of all people. Jesus.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1946804)

"Blame" implies there is some act that there would either be responsibility or innocence from. What are we talking about here? Blame in what? Parents claiming they're damaged somehow and need to be multi millionaires now because of what someone said on a podcast known to be nutty for 24 minutes almost ten years ago? Give me a break.

If I have to repeatedly move because people are publishing my address online and inciting people to stalk and harass and make death threats against me and my family, you bet your ass I'm going to pursue any and ALL action to correct that situation, because that situation is entirely unacceptable.

"Oh, stop whining and just move and get over it" isn't good enough, pal. And if that idiot is where the sh*t rolls downhill from - and he IS - then let King Sh*thead pay the freight. He created these nutjobs who act abhorrently in his name, let him be the one responsible for them.

You have more empathy for a con artist with a talk show who wouldn't stop to piss on you if you were on fire than the people who've been stalked and harassed by his brainwashed disciples, because he's out there "pwning the Libtards" and that just blows my goddamn mind.


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