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Andrew NDB 09-16-2022 06:20 PM

New Karate Kid movie (Karate Kid 5)
 
Apparently?

https://www.darkhorizons.com/new-the...ilm-announced/

CyberCubed 09-16-2022 06:29 PM

Seems strange to do this, but maybe Cobra Kai will be over by 2024? Either way I don't know what they can do. The whole show is about Daniel/Johnny already training the next generation of kids into fighters. So what can a movie do with the same premise that's already done? Going back to training just 1 kid again would be a downgrade and also re-tread what they just did with Miguel in the first season too.

Andrew NDB 09-16-2022 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1944410)
Seems strange to do this, but maybe Cobra Kai will be over by 2024? Either way I don't know what they can do. The whole show is about Daniel/Johnny already training the next generation of kids into fighters. So what can a movie do with the same premise that's already done? Going back to training just 1 kid again would be a downgrade and also re-tread what they just did with Miguel in the first season too.

For all we know it's a prequel from when Mr. Miyagi was a kid. I doubt they'd do a direct Cobra Kai spinoff into film.

Andrew NDB 09-19-2022 12:25 AM

Yeah, it's not even from the same guys as Cobra Kai and they have no involvement.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/new-kar...-of-cobra-kai/

You'd think they'd at least peripherally involve the creators in it, though. Definitely smells like "Miyagi Origins" to me.

Andrew NDB 05-18-2023 11:01 AM

Now it's getting really weird. Jackie Chan is in talks to be in it, apparently reprising his role from the Karate Kid remake that was said not to be a part of the original Karate Kid universe? But maybe not?

https://www.darkhorizons.com/jackie-...ew-karate-kid/

Sumac 05-18-2023 11:57 AM

Chan wants those Hollywood money?
Goodspeed.

Barkworm 05-18-2023 01:45 PM

I've never watched Jackie Chan's 'Karate Kid' but as far as I got it, it's about a kid who goes to China and learns Kung Fu?! Which is a bit like remaking 'The Pianist' with Adrian Brody without renaming it but it's about a German dude who plays the organ.

sdp 05-18-2023 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkworm (Post 1963095)
I've never watched Jackie Chan's 'Karate Kid' but as far as I got it, it's about a kid who goes to China and learns Kung Fu?! Which is a bit like remaking 'The Pianist' with Adrian Brody without renaming it but it's about a German dude who plays the organ.

apparently the bullies were going to call Jaden Smith's the Karate Kid to mock him in the movie but I don't think that actually made it in the final film. It's a good movie, I recommend it, far better than the other sequels. The themes are pretty much the same as the original Karate Kid but they're different characters and besides parallels they are different stories so it could definitely be in continuity with the Miyagiverse.

Sumac 05-19-2023 02:38 AM

I found it to be boring.

ZariusTwo 11-21-2023 12:00 PM

New details. Ralph Macchio returning and Jackie Chan reprising his role from the 2010 movie

https://deadline.com/2023/11/new-kar...io-1235631922/

XERO 11-21-2023 12:31 PM

I'm bound by intrigue to see this through.

Zulithe 11-21-2023 01:20 PM

I hope this new movie considers the events of the cobra kai series. Would be cool if that show remains in the canon.

Looks like they have an OPEN casting call for the new kid. If you know any kids into acting or martial arts... i'd have them try out (submit a video, etc.)

They say they are looking for a teen with chinese or half-chinese heritage in the casting call. But ehh, i'm sure they can be flexible on that if they find someone they really like

oldmanwinters 11-21-2023 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1979545)
New details. Ralph Macchio returning and Jackie Chan reprising his role from the 2010 movie

https://deadline.com/2023/11/new-kar...io-1235631922/

What a weird timeline we live in.

CyberCubed 11-21-2023 02:52 PM

Considering Cobra Kai season 6 will also air next year I am sure it will remain canon. Wasn't Jackie playing the same guy as his old master though with the same exact name? How will they handle that?

CyberCubed 11-21-2023 04:27 PM

It really blows my mind how this franchise just exploded in popularity, when it really only had one popular movie over 35 years ago. The sequels were never well liked back in the day.

Andrew NDB 11-21-2023 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1979545)
New details. Ralph Macchio returning and Jackie Chan reprising his role from the 2010 movie

https://deadline.com/2023/11/new-kar...io-1235631922/

Wow, weird! Some crazy conversations much have happened because the Cobra Kai guys told us if anyone were to watch "The Karate Kid" in the Karate Kid/Cobra Kai universe, they'd be watching the Jackie Chan movie.

Andrew NDB 10-10-2024 08:46 PM

https://www.darkhorizons.com/quick-n...ip-peaky-jedi/

It's called Karate Kid: Legends.

There is also the chance that no one is talking about. This might all be a big meta thing... like about some kid who's a fan of the Karate Kid movies.

Andrew NDB 12-17-2024 10:44 AM

Trailer:


CyberCubed 12-17-2024 12:42 PM

Looks fine, I hope Jackie Chan gets to do more in this movie but given his age probably not. My guess is we'll just see Larusso and nothing of his family, not his wife and not Sam or any major characters from the show. They'll want this to stand on its own for people who didn't watch the series. We'll get minor references and I doubt Johnny will appear either.

Andrew NDB 12-17-2024 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 2001500)
Looks fine, I hope Jackie Chan gets to do more in this movie but given his age probably not. My guess is we'll just see Larusso and nothing of his family, not his wife and not Sam or any major characters from the show. They'll want this to stand on its own for people who didn't watch the series. We'll get minor references and I doubt Johnny will appear either.

I'd bet on some Cobra Kai-heavy stuff in the after-credits. If anything. But yeah, only vague mentions of the events of Cobra Kai throughout the main movie from Daniel.

Barkworm 12-17-2024 03:13 PM

I have no clue about the franchise apart from having seen the first two films when I was 13 or 14. But I have to say, this looks really fun.

XERO 12-17-2024 04:53 PM

I was already gonna watch this, but Jackie Chan is a guarantee.

Andrew NDB 04-01-2025 03:48 PM



New trailer.

Andrew NDB 04-09-2025 12:00 AM

So there's a story about Courtney Henggeler today, who played Daniel's wife on Cobra Kai. Apparently she had been following the director of this movie until just the other day, when she deleted him from everything. And then today she announced on her platforms that -- suddenly, and effective immediately -- after 20 years of acting, she's retiring from acting.

The rumor is that she did film some scenes for this movie and they were cut... or there was at least some initial contact with her about something small in this, and they decided to kill off her character between Cobra Kai and this, to make Daniel more grief-stricken and broken.

CyberCubed 04-09-2025 04:31 PM

Not sure I believe that yet, I think just she and Sam will be elsewhere to be absent in the movie.

I looked up the actress and she's only 46? Given Ralph is 63 and their characters are probably around the same age as they are in real life, why did they set him up with a wife whose almost 20 years younger than he is? I guess Daniel likes them young.

Andrew NDB 04-09-2025 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 2006770)
Not sure I believe that yet, I think just she and Sam will be elsewhere to be absent in the movie.

I looked up the actress and she's only 46? Given Ralph is 63 and their characters are probably around the same age as they are in real life

DEFINITELY not. Daniel is not a 63 year-old in Cobra Kai. Remember, he was 16 in all 3 Karate Kid movies, and only about a year and a half has passed between all 6 seasons of Cobra Kai that came out over 7 years.

We can actually figure this out. If Daniel was 16 in 1984, he'd be exactly 50 years old when Cobra Kai season 1 came out in 2018. So only about 51 and some change by the end of the show?

IMJ 04-09-2025 05:30 PM

This looks decent enough to watch, but I'm feeling it should have been a Netflix movie. Wouldn't pay to see it in the theater.

XERO 04-09-2025 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 2006772)
DEFINITELY not. Daniel is not a 63 year-old in Cobra Kai. Remember, he was 16 in all 3 Karate Kid movies, and only about a year and a half has passed between all 6 seasons of Cobra Kai that came out over 7 years.

We can actually figure this out. If Daniel was 16 in 1984, he'd be exactly 50 years old when Cobra Kai season 1 came out in 2018. So only about 51 and some change by the end of the show?

About 52 the most at the end of the show, yeah. Given that the new movie is 3 years later (2023-ish), he'd be 53-54 when he meets Han.

It's crazy, even with the first 3 movies, the timeline was slow as f*ck. Haha. Feels, like I'm watching DBZ all over again. :lol:

Andrew NDB 04-09-2025 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 2006774)
This looks decent enough to watch, but I'm feeling it should have been a Netflix movie. Wouldn't pay to see it in the theater.

I'll see it in theaters but I don't blame you. There's nothing really for "the fans" to get excited about. If Cobra Kai had never come out, maybe this would have been a BIG event! But it did, so seeing Daniel Larusso like 3 months after we just got done seeing him in Cobra Kai isn't a very big deal. And I don't know that the Jackie Chan movie is super loved, so combining him here with Daniel sort of undermines each of them a bit. Is anyone excited about the new Karate Kid? I can't imagine so. We just had 6 seasons of a Karate Kid show where everybody could pick their favorite Karate Kid out of a dozen or so that we just watched grow and evolve.

It's kind of an oddity. And if it's successful, the plan is Karate Kid Legends 2? And we just keep following this new kid around to new tournaments or something?

member_removed 04-10-2025 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 2006783)

It's kind of an oddity. And if it's successful, the plan is Karate Kid Legends 2? And we just keep following this new kid around to new tournaments or something?

The return of Hilary Swank. Boom, book it!

neatoman 04-10-2025 07:51 AM

So I'm guessing Jaden Smith won't be in this?

IMJ 04-10-2025 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 2006801)
So I'm guessing Jaden Smith won't be in this?

About the only movie that Jaden Smith is fit to film would be "The Cell 2" if they ever made it..... he dresses like Carl Stargher already.

Andrew NDB 04-10-2025 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by member_removed (Post 2006786)
The return of Hilary Swank. Boom, book it!

I'm still angry they dropped the ball with her on Cobra Kai. There are ways to do something with her now that would be neat.

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 2006801)
So I'm guessing Jaden Smith won't be in this?

Remember, since the Karate Kid remake Will Smith himself has been a producer on everything Karate Kid (his name is on every episode of Cobra Kai, for example). Point being, this movie didn't happen without his blessing. And if Jaden Smith wanted a small part in it, you can bet he got one. Or at least a cameo.

CyberCubed 04-10-2025 01:50 PM

The choreography in the trailer makes the fights look much better than Cobra Kai. Helps the actor they chose actually knows karate in real life instead of kids trying to be good at karate like the Cobra Kai actors were. You can easily tell the difference between a professional doing it their whole lives than a bunch of teens quickly told basic martial arts while acting and filming the eps at the same time.

oldmanwinters 04-10-2025 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by member_removed (Post 2006786)
The return of Hilary Swank. Boom, book it!

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 2006810)
I'm still angry they dropped the ball with her on Cobra Kai. There are ways to do something with her now that would be neat.


Digging deeper into the whole "Alpha Elite" organization would be worth at least one movie or season.

Andrew NDB 04-10-2025 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 2006818)
Helps the actor they chose actually knows karate in real life instead of kids trying to be good at karate like the Cobra Kai actors were.

Yeah, but can he act? There's a reason all the actual boxers in the Rocky movies are infinitely less interesting to watch than the actors pretending to be boxers in them.

oldmanwinters 04-10-2025 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 2006747)
So there's a story about Courtney Henggeler today, who played Daniel's wife on Cobra Kai. Apparently she had been following the director of this movie until just the other day, when she deleted him from everything. And then today she announced on her platforms that -- suddenly, and effective immediately -- after 20 years of acting, she's retiring from acting.

The rumor is that she did film some scenes for this movie and they were cut... or there was at least some initial contact with her about something small in this, and they decided to kill off her character between Cobra Kai and this, to make Daniel more grief-stricken and broken.

Thought occurred to me today...

Isn't the final shot of Cobra Kai just Daniel and Johnny getting food in a diner strategizing how they will encourage their students to cross-train each other's discipline... set in early 2020?

So what if they were hinting they would work the real-life pandemic into the show's timeline. Does Amanda die of "the 'rona" or something related? Does it sink the LaRusso auto business? Do all the kids have to put their college and training plans on hold?

Andrew NDB 04-10-2025 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 2006824)
Does Amanda die of "the 'rona" or something related?

And we pretend COVID was killing off skinny 40 year-olds? Maybe. Probably cancer.

There's probably something to this, for some reason they want to specifically put 3 in-story years between Cobra Kai and Karate Kid Legends (almost like they wanted to give Daniel enough time in-story to largely get over some kind of traumatic loss). At the end of Cobra Kai Daniel was still being -- enthusiastically -- a sensei, but at the start of Karate Kid Legends he doesn't want anything to do with being a sensei at first.

So what happened? What changed?

oldmanwinters 04-10-2025 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 2006827)
And we pretend COVID was killing off skinny 40 year-olds? Maybe. Probably cancer.

They would have still counted that "Death due to 'rona" back then! :tlol::tcouch:

The Cobra Kai show went to great lengths to play up how good Daniel had life to paint him as a foil to Johnny's new underdog status.
But I guess if you're doing a movie with him as a focal character, you have to tear him down several pegs to give him a new character growth arc.

Andrew NDB 04-10-2025 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 2006830)
The Cobra Kai show went to great lengths to play up how good Daniel had life to paint him as a foil to Johnny's new underdog status.
But I guess if you're doing a movie with him as a focal character, you have to tear him down several pegs to give him a new character growth arc.

I guess so. Plus, "OK, Jackie Chan... let me put my marriage, my automobile business and my dojo all on hold so I can travel around the world with you to train a rando" has to somehow make sense.

But maaan... if they really do kill off his wife that's going to royally piss off Cobra Kai fans. Like, the movie would go from most fans' being like "meh!" about it, to now hating on it because instead of doing nothing new with the KK/Cobra Kai material, it would actively be hurting it.

On the plus side... hey, maybe Daniel CAN end up with Kumiko now!


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