Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 3 May 5, 2023
 

I was shocked they avoided making the awkward humor attempt until the tail end of that trailer.

Batista smacking that kid in the head with the basketball was hilarious.

yes yes it was :lol:

Might actually see this one.

These films just keep getting worse

I thought the second one was really good but I'm still looking forward to "space superhero's" somewhere rather than "space pirates". It'd be great to see characters flying through space on-screen rather than flying a ship through space on screen.

Yeah, I'd say the second movie was actually better than the first. But boy, there's a Kevin Smith-like quality to these where it feels even a few movies in now, that we're mostly just treading water with the characters. There is no real interest from Gunn into elevating them into straight up superheroes.

I admit, I did do a spit-take on that moment.

Wait…did they just…tease Star-Lord X Nebula?

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We finally get to see Gamora speak in this trailer and how this past version of her feels about being with the team. I don't think she was talking in the last trailer.

I was surprised to see how far down this thread was...

Anyway, I've seen it, so I might as well address some questions people have:

My mom’s gonna bawl her eyes out at the part where it seems that…



She blubbered at the end of Vol. 2. Better bring a tissue box with me to the theater.

Huh.

I guess either nobody really cares enough to talk about this movie or it hasn't been released in enough areas yet, but I might as well post my thoughts on how the MCU tends to handle adaptation or lore and characters, since this movie can be considered a culmination of questionable decisions.

So it kind of just sounds like more of the same, and the Star Lord-Gamora stuff goes nowhere? Is there at least a good amount of Stallone?

No, he effectively just briefs them on the mission plan when they are attempting to steal something that might save Rocket. I legitimately can't remember if he does anything after that.

Apparently he goes to "take a $#!(". There was a line where Gunn wanted Stallone to say that in the film, but apparently he refused to do it.

I saw the movie, it was a fun, "feel good" movie. Some of the jokes again didn't land (and the camera lingers too long as a character stares blankly like it's some sort of punchline), but the theater was silent.

James Gunn has this problem where he makes characters scream their lines everytime they get angry. Gamora, Drax, Peter, Mantis and Nebula all have lines in the movie screaming back and forth constantly at each other, as well as the main villain, and it got irritating after awhile. After the first few scenes of this I got tired of it but it continued through the whole movie sadly.

Most of the movie is about Rocket's backstory which is fine. Gamora doesn't wind up back with Peter and stays a Ravenger. The group essentially splits up and goes their separate ways at the end besides Rocket and Groot. Also the movie was channeling 60's-70's sci-fi with all the little kids with gray hair in the movie locked up as experiments.

Definitely a better movie than most of the last few Marvel movies.

So what's the final word on Phylla-Vell and the status of the Quantum Bands... anything? :roll: I mean.. I know she's in the movie, but....

I am surprsied to hear they didn't do anything with eter and Gamora - unless they know both actors will return in the future, they could have done something with their romance.

Must suck to win a woman over, lose her tragically, kinda/sorta get a do-over except this time you didn't win her over. In essence, the Gamora they knew died and stayed dead.

Well it really isn't the same person. The Gamora they knew was dead, and this one was from the past, basically an alternate timeline. It's fair to say they really are two different people.

If you go 13 years into the past and pick your 2010 self and bring them to 2023, you wouldn't be the same person either. My 2010 self is not who I am right now, same for most people I imagine.

People don't seem to understand one of the themes of this movie is letting go and you can't always 'fix' people.

But it seemed like a huge dangling thread from Infinity War teased. The original Gamora still seemed trapped in that gem, somehow, after her death. We saw it. She was there. I thought for sure the idea would be to get back into that and somehow coalesce that Gamora into the plucked out of time Gamora. Not to invalidate the new Gamora, but give her those memories, too. That seemed so obviously the direction things would go. I suspect now that was maybe decided to be too "problematic." She's basically now even worse off than where they've left Vision, except with him they didn't even bother to try to follow up on that, even though he has a full download of the original Vision's memories.

It makes sense thematically and logically, I mean she is different person after all, but still, I feel like their re-romance with Peter was in the cards at some point.

The version of Phyla-Vell in this movie might as well be an entirely original character, as she is a creation of the High Evolutionary. There is no mention of her having any connection to Mar-Vell, Elysius, the Kree, the Titans or the Eternals in general.

Yeah - don't care about any of that, but I get your point. Just care as to what they are going to do with the Quantum Bands and Quasar long-term.... :lol:

I suppose they will clear up in the Marvels whether or not Kamala's bracelets are "nega bands" or "Quantum Bands". I just want to see Wendell Vaughn's Quasar on screen doing cool $#!(. :)

Maybe they're saving the restoration of that for a "Steve Rogers going through time restoring the gems" movie or project.

Saw it today and it was really good, Its a lot more emotional then the previous movies, Also were you like

It's possible that's a reference, I don't want to say for sure.

Did nobody else find the characters screaming their lines constantly to be annoying? It would be one thing if only one character did it, but every character did it at some point. Mantis was screaming, Drax was screaming, Nebula was screaming, Gamora was screaming, the main villain was constantly screaming. It was ridiculous.

Like how they constantly scream lines in 2003 TMNT?

No? That's a better description of the "humor" in the 2012 TMNT show.

I zoned out all of the annoyances. I only really care for Rocket and I was not disappointed by this movie. His scenes with his experimented animal friends are just excellent and heartbreaking.

When Star Lord was stuck in space and his face froze, I really thought he died. I didn’t mind if he dies but he got saved. The ending credit says “the legendary star Lord will return” and I’m like… that’s good for his fans but I want more Rocket tbh.

Just saw it. Definitely I was pleased. It really had a super tight script with not a lot of fluff and it showed. The High Evolutionary was a compelling villain, too.

I see a lot of people online saying this was like a second Avengers Endgame to them, meaning now that they've seen this conclusion they're done with the MCU again.

I can agree, the last couple of movies before this have all been mediocre to bad (Ant-man 3, Thor 4, The Eternals, Shang-Chi, Doctor Strange 2 to an extent), I'll give Black Panther 2 a pass since unfortunately Chadwick died and the movie itself was pretty decent for what it was. And next Ms. Marvel 2 looks pretty bad as well.

Feels like the MCU is over again, with the only exception being whenever Fantastic Four, X-men or new Spider-man movies come out.

Just Spider-Man. You know FF and X-Men will be them in name only.

The MCU as it used to be is dead and it did die after End Game and will never be what it once was. Normies don't care about capesh-t. It was just a perfect storm of things that let the MCU become what it was. It began because Iron Man was a refreshing Superhero movie with Iron Man, it had the benefit of the novelty of a shared universe, smart phones made normies use the internet which made Geek culture pop culture and the cool trend of the decade, guys obviously enjoyed the superhero fantasy and the girls enjoyed the superhero actor's abs. Disney bought Marvel and with their expertise in marketing made it bigger than Marvel Studios alone would've never been able to achieve, it was a new concept to people and the movies were good. It all had a storyline that concluded with End Game which is why people also stuck around for so long, if not it might not have lasted a decade.

The fangirls are now married and or no longer interested in their hunky men since they're old now as well. The kids who grew up with the MCU are now wanting to move on to cooler or more mature stuff. Normies got their fulfillment of what the capesh-t was and won't want to follow. Just making good movies of the same cookie cutter stuff gets boring, Disney no longer has all the good faith it had in the 2010s, geek culture became consoomer culture, and this is going to crash sooner rather than later, the 2020s want their own identity. The new storylines aren't as engaging, it's all a rehash of a rehash as comics have been for decades.

Now fanboys get all upset when you bring this up and will tell you how the movies are still making a lot of money and that Galactus or whatever will change the tide or do mental gymnastics with the meme that capesh-t is actually "different genres". I mean these movies are not going to disappear from one day to another, big name movies or events will still make a lot of money, but it won't be hit after hit and counting how much the movies cost. Once studios/Disney start to see that more and more movies are underperforming (even if they make millions, remember businesses need a big Return of Investment to make the risk worth it) we're going to see less of them. Also things dont' go linearly, you'll see ups and downs but the trend is downwards. It's like those people who dont't understand stocks and can't think longterm. People will blame it on "going woke" or "using lesser known superheroes" but that's not it, things can only be a level of popular for so long.
TL;DR: I have no doubt the next Avengers/Spider-Man/X-Men will do great, that doesn't mean the MCU isn't on a downward trend and it won't recover.