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Coola Yagami 01-02-2023 04:11 PM

M3gan
 
Anyone interested in this movie? A girl lost her parents and her aunt isn't equipped to watch over her so she lets a new robot doll she created watch over her. At first it looks like it takes the 'protect Cady from any physical and emotional harm a little too serious, but the trailer looks like she eventually goes full AWOL.



Love the premise. It's too bad they didn't do it sooner before that Chucky reboot movie went in a similar direction.

Similar to the Smile marketing campaign, a bunch of 'M3GAN' took over a sporting event's halftime show.


ssjup81 01-02-2023 04:57 PM

Oh we are so going to watch this movie Coola Yagami. It’s creepy looking and AI gone rogue, but given the premise, curious how M3GAN will be dealt with. I hope the ending isn’t set up to have a sequel. Stand-alone films seem to be such a rarity these days.

Coola Yagami 01-02-2023 05:06 PM

We'll have to see. The marketing campaign suggests they can be mass produced, hence all the girls walking around dressed like M3GAN clones.

The only thing I don't like about sequels is the more you add to them the further removed you get from the original premise.

ssjup81 01-02-2023 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1952342)
We'll have to see. The marketing campaign suggests they can be mass produced, hence all the girls walking around dressed like M3GAN clones.

The only thing I don't like about sequels is the more you add to them the further removed you get from the original premise.

That’s why I don’t want a sequel and why I’m worried about one coming about…the mass production of M3gan. Maybe they’ll all get destroyed.

IMJ 01-02-2023 06:15 PM

We are looking forward to this one here in the house as well.

Andrew NDB 01-02-2023 06:49 PM

I was interested until I noticed it was PG-13. Now I'm not so interested.

Coola Yagami 01-02-2023 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1952359)
I was interested until I noticed it was PG-13. Now I'm not so interested.

LOL it's always gotta be hard R for you, doesn't it?

IMJ 01-02-2023 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1952359)
I was interested until I noticed it was PG-13. Now I'm not so interested.

I take that to mean that it will be more of a thriller than "robot horror", you know?

Andrew NDB 01-02-2023 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1952363)
LOL it's always gotta be hard R for you, doesn't it?

With horror movies about a lot of murdering yeah, generally. And I just read they actually shot a bunch of R material but then went back in and reshot it all as PG-13... which is certainly something I can't respect, remotely.

RaphaelinSTL 01-02-2023 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1952368)
With horror movies about a lot of murdering yeah, generally. And I just read they actually shot a bunch of R material but then went back in and reshot it all as PG-13... which is certainly something I can't respect, remotely.

Agree with Andrew on this as generally it's done in practice to try to get more money at the box office to avoid that R rating. Studios tend to hinder/cut down pivotal moments and scenes so it gets a PG-13 allowing younger audiences to see it and get in more screenings.

That said, this movie looks ridiculously b-movie goofy, and looks like a fun laugh at how silly it is.

The Deadman 01-03-2023 04:32 AM

For the thousandth time, horror movies don't need to be rated R to be good. Not sure why nobody understands this.

LeotheLateBloomer 01-03-2023 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL (Post 1952371)
That said, this movie looks ridiculously b-movie goofy, and looks like a fun laugh at how silly it is.

Which is why the PG-13 rating doesn't bother me much. Doesn't look like it's to be taken seriously.

Andrew NDB 01-03-2023 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1952374)
For the thousandth time, horror movies don't need to be rated R to be good. Not sure why nobody understands this.

And for the thousandth time what seems to be endemic to a lot of people is a general sense of "R rated just means you can swear and blood." Also, you're not clever or cool for taking that stance. No, it's quite a bit more than that. It's characters being allowed to talk and react believably like real people in real situations. It means you can show even one kick to a head. It means you can show actual graphic consequences to violence, which is an important piece of being able to buy into whatever it is you're watching... moreso the more fantastical it is.

Now, insert killer doll movie where a doll starts murdering a lot of people. You won't have people talking or reacting believably to it. There won't be any or definitive visual data on the kills going on. There won't be anything. Maybe a music score with a lot of "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAM"s. Great.

And what exactly are some post-modern horror movies that are great that are rated PG-13? What, The Ring? No, not scary. "Spooky kids" has become a popularized thing but I've never found it very horrific in and of itself.

Sumac 01-03-2023 03:11 PM

I smell some people will find themselves a new fetish.

Other than that, it can be either very creepy (if played right) or very stupid, because, premise like this is barely above Chucky-level.

And it reminds me about the movie Toy Soldiers with some Artificial Intelligence thrown in.

As for the blood: yeah, it'd be unfortunate, if in the movie about killing doll, they won't show much of it. Like, this is a horror movie about doll killing people, why bother with making it a family one?!

On a technical level, I wonder how they executed doll dancing and jumping - was it an actress or a pure CGI?

Coola Yagami 01-03-2023 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1952408)
I smell some people will find themselves a new fetish.

Other than that, it can be either very creepy (if played right) or very stupid, because, premise like this is barely above Chucky-level.

And it reminds me about the movie Toy Soldiers with some Artificial Intelligence thrown in.

As for the blood: yeah, it'd be unfortunate, if in the movie about killing doll, they won't show much of it. Like, this is a horror movie about doll killing people, why bother with making it a family one?!

On a technical level, I wonder how they executed doll dancing and jumping - was it an actress or a pure CGI?

Actress dancing with a plastic doll mask. Extra CGI for the face details added in post I assume.

IMJ 01-03-2023 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Deadman (Post 1952374)
For the thousandth time, horror movies don't need to be rated R to be good. Not sure why nobody understands this.

I think a lot of people understand that, but it also speaks to the kind of horror a film is trying to capture.

The Ring & Pulse pulled it off as PG-13 but those movies spoke to a sense of personal dread in ways that were "scary". Whereas a movie like Silent Hill (the first one) sort of had to go the "R" route to really capture what it was doing.

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1952417)
Actress dancing with a plastic doll mask. Extra CGI for the face details added in post I assume.

Yeah I would say very similar to how the robot was done so convincingly in Zathura. Perfected hybrid approach.

Coola Yagami 01-03-2023 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 1952428)
I think a lot of people understand that, but it also speaks to the kind of horror a film is trying to capture.

The Ring & Pulse pulled it off as PG-13 but those movies spoke to a sense of personal dread in ways that were "scary". Whereas a movie like Silent Hill (the first one) sort of had to go the "R" route to really capture what it was doing.



Yeah I would say very similar to how the robot was done so convincingly in Zathura. Perfected hybrid approach.

Yeah, it's all over those Youtube shorts and Instagram stories. They show the entire dance sequence uninterrupted (you know, without cutaway shots or close ups or whatever) and then the actress taking off the mask post filming.

Bahamut810 01-03-2023 11:48 PM

Movies like this are why I am like "Man I love AI in movies," then when I see some news that 'we taught AI to do XYZ' I am like "WHY HAVE WE NOT LEARNED FROM THESE MOVIES?"

Andrew NDB 01-04-2023 02:18 AM

This seems actually pretty close to the Child's Play remake where Chucky wasn't a voodoo possessed doll but purely AI gone wrong. Except that was more about Chucky interfacing with your Alexa type stuff... which might even be in this.

Coola Yagami 01-04-2023 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1952445)
This seems actually pretty close to the Child's Play remake where Chucky wasn't a voodoo possessed doll but purely AI gone wrong. Except that was more about Chucky interfacing with your Alexa type stuff... which might even be in this.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Kinda wish the Chucky reboot didn't go with the corrupt AI route because that will just draw more and more comparisons to that one. I'm sure even if it stuck with 'voodoo possessed doll' it would have drawn comparisons anyway, but now people can call this a Chucky rip off.

RaphaelinSTL 01-04-2023 09:32 PM

98% on Rotten Tomatoes, lol. Let's go.

Coola Yagami 01-04-2023 09:37 PM

Yep, watching it next pay day.

Coola Yagami 01-05-2023 12:17 PM

Loving their advertising campaign. Their Instagram stories are blowing up as the M3GAN clones are going all over the place lol.

Andrew NDB 01-09-2023 04:52 PM

https://www.darkhorizons.com/m3gan-g...e-unrated-cut/

So she killed "bunch" more people in the originally shot R version and that version was "much gorier" than the PG-13 version they edited and reshot it into.

LeotheLateBloomer 01-10-2023 05:19 AM

Has anyone watched it yet?

RaphaelinSTL 01-10-2023 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer (Post 1952889)
Has anyone watched it yet?

Hopefully checking it out later this week.

LeotheLateBloomer 01-13-2023 09:58 AM

Saw it, I really enjoyed it. It's a movie I felt is entertaining on it's own, despite some say about its similarities with Child's Play. There are some scenes that noticeably show that this was originally going to be an R-rated film which kinda leads to my few criticisms...
Spoiler:
  • Megan's kill count was 4 in total. I'm not counting the dog since they never really show what happened to it or how she killed it, if she did. You hear it whimpering somewhere in the garage but you don't know if it's actually the dog or her imitating it's voice.
  • The deaths were heavily toned down as there's very little blood even though the aftermath of her last two victims of the elevator were as bloody as they could get. Still pretty bad that the boy's ear being ripped off couldn't show any blood. Why bother leaving that part in?
  • How they defeated Megan was predictable and a little disappointing.


It helps that you know what kind of movie you're going to watch a head of time with mild expectations. If you do, I would recommend it.

Andrew NDB 01-13-2023 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer (Post 1953118)
Saw it, I really enjoyed it. It's a movie I felt is entertaining on it's own, despite some say about its similarities with Child's Play. There are some scenes that noticeably show that this was originally going to be an R-rated film which kinda leads to my few criticisms...
Spoiler:
  • Megan's kill count was 4 in total. I'm not counting the dog since they never really show what happened to it or how she killed it, if she did. You hear it whimpering somewhere in the garage but you don't know if it's actually the dog or her imitating it's voice.
  • The deaths were heavily toned down as there's very little blood even though the aftermath of her last two victims of the elevator were as bloody as they could get. Still pretty bad that the boy's ear being ripped off couldn't show any blood. Why bother leaving that part in?
  • How they defeated Megan was predictable and a little disappointing.


It helps that you know what kind of movie you're going to watch a head of time with mild expectations. If you do, I would recommend it.

Sounds like a movie really handicapped by a PG-13 rating. As I suspected.

LeotheLateBloomer 01-13-2023 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1953121)
Sounds like a movie really handicapped by a PG-13 rating. As I suspected.

Yeah no lie, it was.

CyberCubed 01-13-2023 08:17 PM

The actress who played the female lead and little girl were honestly really bad, they never looked scared or believeable in any of the horror scenes. I usually am forgiving to things like this, but the lead actress just had this weird indifference look to her face even after she was being strangled by a robot doll, lol.

IMJ 01-14-2023 10:42 AM

Hopefully we are seeing this tonight....

Coola Yagami 01-14-2023 01:49 PM

****in loved it. I'll give my thoughts in a few days so not to spoil it. Will most likely film a review tomorrow after I have some time to gather my thoughts and not just blurt out madness, lol.

Coola Yagami 01-14-2023 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1952849)
https://www.darkhorizons.com/m3gan-g...e-unrated-cut/

So she killed "bunch" more people in the originally shot R version and that version was "much gorier" than the PG-13 version they edited and reshot it into.

A bunch? I only saw a few examples of possible victims unless there were entire subplots cut from the film.

Spoiler:


Two people had kinda ambiguous 'deaths', so I'm assuming in the R version they flat out died and in more definitive and gruesome ways

I mean... maybe that guidance counselor could have been a victim, though I don't know how that would have fit.

M3GAN was also in front of a crowd at the expo, but I mean, her top priority was to head home. She never really got to a 'kill everyone for the sake of killing everyone' mindset, just anyone that directly got in her way and any witnesses (and anyone that hurts Cadie). I mean I can assume maaaaybe some people at the expo tried to stop her from leaving?? Or she ran into more victims on her way to the expo???


Andrew NDB 01-14-2023 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1953229)
A bunch? I only saw a few examples of possible victims unless there were entire subplots cut

It's their own words, not mine. So probably.

Coola Yagami 01-15-2023 02:26 PM

I will be honest though, that one scene did tear me up, though I'm confused as to why apparently it made other audiences laugh??

As someone who also lost their parents, I did emphasize with Cady's fear of someday forgetting what your parents look like or sound like. Apparently, M3GAN's song during that scene made people laugh despite the scene being played completely straight.

Now her second song though... lol.... and her also playing 'Toy Soldiers' on the piano....

Sumac 01-15-2023 03:38 PM

R-rated edition when?

Andrew NDB 01-15-2023 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1953280)
R-rated edition when?


They've said they'll probably do it. Hopefully they put that version in theaters for a while.

Turo602 01-15-2023 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1953274)
Apparently, M3GAN's song during that scene made people laugh despite the scene being played completely straight.

Same with my theater. I didn't get how that scene was funny. Yet they were dead silent when the kid got hit by the car or when she was stretching his elastic ears. Then again, I thought the movie was extremely mediocre despite how much everyone seems to love it even though it was pretty dumb, wasn't scary, nor even that funny. My theater chuckled like 5 times and never at the stuff I was laughing at.

Cowabung-Gal 01-15-2023 08:43 PM

Isn’t this basically a gender-swapped version of the 2019 Child’s Play?

Coola Yagami 01-15-2023 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal (Post 1953294)
Isn’t this basically a gender-swapped version of the 2019 Child’s Play?

Sorta. It's kinda why I wish they either released this sooner or they never made that remake.

It's gonna be kinda like the FNAF movie (whenever it comes out). People are gonna compare it to Willy's Wonderland.


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