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Vegita-San 01-27-2023 01:19 PM

So, what's the REAL story?
 
The Tyre Nichols attack... first time I've heard of this one.
but, since the usual twitter supsects are going on about their usual ways and bringing up george floyd again, one has too ask...'what's the real story?'

IMJ 01-27-2023 01:34 PM

What are the details?

ChosenOne 01-27-2023 06:15 PM

There they go again, stoking the flames of societal breakdown over another dead junkie... :roll:

Coola Yagami 01-27-2023 06:20 PM

Who is this now?

Galactus 01-27-2023 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1954355)
Who is this now?

A black American Fedex worker who was pulled over in Memphis and beaten by five police officers. He died in the hospital three days later.

Notable in this situation is all five of the officers in question were black themselves and have been fired and charged with a number of crimes including assault and third degree murder.

ChosenOne 01-27-2023 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1954355)
Who is this now?

Saint Floyd the II of the BLMites, aka some idiot drug user/pusher who really should've listened when the police told him to stop running and is now poised to become the sponsor for the 2023 Mostly Peaceful Protests.

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Originally Posted by Galactus (Post 1954356)
Notable in this situation is all five of the officers in question were black themselves and have been fired and charged with a number of crimes including assault and third degree murder.

F*cking racists!

Coola Yagami 01-27-2023 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus (Post 1954356)
A black American Fedex worker who was pulled over in Memphis and beaten by five police officers. He died in the hospital three days later.

Notable in this situation is all five of the officers in question were black themselves and have been fired and charged with a number of crimes including assault and third degree murder.

Holy crap. Did they give a reason why the stopped him and what led to such an altercation? Is the story getting brushed under the rug because it wasn't 'the evil white man' that did it but four fellow black people taking down one of their own?

Jester 01-27-2023 08:44 PM

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/mem...st-2023-01-27/

RaphaelinSTL 01-27-2023 08:55 PM

****ing pigs.

IMJ 01-27-2023 09:06 PM

I don't know the further details as to the stop itself or what this guy was doing in the car. But I am going to say this - the cops - of any color :roll: - do not simply drag people out of a car if they do nothing.

You don't do anything but what the cops say.
You don't run away from the cops.
You don't jive turkey or hood rat at the cops.

If you don't do those things, then it's likely they won't even remotely get physical with you. What happens in these circumstances is that the cops are out there always fearing for their lives. And when someone gets stopped and they compound the problem -

1. People get mouthy with, or hoodrat at, or victim-play at the cops. They get pulled out of the car.
2. Then they bug up when getting pulled out even though they caused it, so they fight the cops. Control the situation as is procedure. They get put on the ground and sprayed.
3. Then they bug up at their "victimization" even though they caused it, so they run from the cops. "Stop or we'll shoot" as is procedure. They get put in the ground.

Don't you people understand this?

ChosenOne 01-27-2023 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 1954367)
Don't you people understand this?

Leftists aren't known for their intellect or respect for the authorities. More like sneering contempt, really. Their underdeveloped hive minds can't figure out why we absolutely need well-funded police, nor why said police more often than not makes the right call in how they approach a suspect.

There's no time to bring up someone's life history and interview their loved ones when it comes down to a decision between a fleeing suspect's life (and this guy ran twice in quick succession) and the lives of the officers and any nearby innocents. The police orders you to stop and you don’t comply, you run away or you fight back, you're making a choice right there. Whatever happens next is on you, and you alone.

Coola Yagami 01-27-2023 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 1954367)
I don't know the further details as to the stop itself or what this guy was doing in the car. But I am going to say this - the cops - of any color :roll: - do not simply drag people out of a car if they do nothing.

You don't do anything but what the cops say.
You don't run away from the cops.
You don't jive turkey or hood rat at the cops.

If you don't do those things, then it's likely they won't even remotely get physical with you. What happens in these circumstances is that the cops are out there always fearing for their lives. And when someone gets stopped and they compound the problem -

1. People get mouthy with, or hoodrat at, or victim-play at the cops. They get pulled out of the car.
2. Then they bug up when getting pulled out even though they caused it, so they fight the cops. Control the situation as is procedure. They get put on the ground and sprayed.
3. Then they bug up at their "victimization" even though they caused it, so they run from the cops. "Stop or we'll shoot" as is procedure. They get put in the ground.

Don't you people understand this?

Doesn't that only work for white people though?

IMJ 01-28-2023 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1954369)
Doesn't that only work for white people though?

That's what a certain cross section of society would have you believe as they deflect their own behaviors.

I watched the shoulder cam video of the stop. The guy is resisting and arguing every step of the way. He's looking back at the police, as if he's in charge, telling them he is complying the whole time without actually complying.

And so let me tell the "Galactuses" of the Technodrome another thing that you probably haven't ever considered in your liberal, critical, holier-than-thou lives - when someone tries to kill you, it isn't like a TMNT flick with a bad guy face-off. Most of the time the bad guy walks up and knifes you with a concerned look on his face while asking you if you are okay. And while he asks that as if he wants to help you, he continues to put the knife in and out over and over.

So when a kid is stopped by police, looking back at them to tell them you are complying isn't complying. Getting up and running away isn't complying. Shutting the f up and letting the authorities in charge run the show IS complying.

Now there is clearly more to this story about the cops hitting the guy over the shoulders with their batons, and kicking the guy and so on. THAT is a problem. But see - by the time that happened the kid had already broken about a dozen other laws by the point he ran away. But for you liberal brain trust out there, had this guy not been in "punk manipulation mode"- e.g saying he was complying when he wasn't, escaping a stop, etc, then he'd probably be alive and the whole thing wouldn't have escalated.

Now as to the post-escape interaction? That is 100% on those fools in uniform. Once the guy is in cuffs, and controlled, it's over. So if the kid was alive when they caught him and cuffed, he should be alive right now. It's definitely a 360 degree issue, so those cops will definitely have something to answer for. If you get your guy subdued, it's over - the police shouldn't turn themselves into a mob action.

FrederikWolferson 01-28-2023 02:26 PM

Black cops beating up a black man is somehow white peoples fault because "internalized racism" or something yadda yadda yadda...

ssjup81 01-28-2023 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FrederikWolferson (Post 1954402)
Black cops beating up a black man is somehow white peoples fault because "internalized racism" or something yadda yadda yadda...

The guy speaking out on behalf of the family, and the family, didn’t bring up race. They were pretty much saying black or white, police brutality and using excessive force is a problem.

ChosenOne 01-28-2023 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FrederikWolferson (Post 1954402)
Black cops beating up a black man is somehow white peoples fault because "internalized racism" or something yadda yadda yadda...

White people inducted those black men into the police force as race traitors, dontcha know? So obvious! /s

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1954405)
The guy speaking out on behalf of the family, and the family, didn’t bring up race. They were pretty much saying black or white, police brutality and using excessive force is a problem.

So's running from the police TWICE after they repeatedly and explicitly order you to stop.

ssjup81 01-28-2023 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1954407)
So's running from the police TWICE after they repeatedly and explicitly order you to stop.

I don’t know the details, but five cops beating up on one person seems excessive to me regardless of what the person did.

ChosenOne 01-28-2023 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1954408)
I don’t know the details, but five cops beating up on one person seems excessive to me regardless of what the person did.

Agree to disagree.

ssjup81 01-28-2023 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1954409)
Agree to disagree.

All I know is that it was a routine traffic stop. If the person was defiant, which is wrong, how is that grounds for being pummeled? The guy wasn’t even all that big. Did he attack or pull a weapon out on the cops in question? Either way, this does seem like excessive force to me.

ChosenOne 01-28-2023 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1954411)
All I know is that it was a routine traffic stop.

It was, before he ran. Twice. You'd be surprised at what comes up during routine traffic stops, up to and including serial killers. Like I said, agree to disagree.

IMJ 01-28-2023 04:34 PM

There are a few very simple facts to address:

1 A suspect's attitude in a police interaction dictates the methodology of outcome. If you are getting arrested, then the arrest is happening. The end. If you ghetto-up your attitude or mouth while being arrested, the chances of you dying increase greatly. The end.

2 A cop who subdues and cuffs a suspect ends the physical altercation & the interaction is over beyond transport. The end. If you are arresting someone you use the force necessary to complete the arrest and once it's done, it's done. If a cop toughguys-up after someone is in custody, the chances of that cop going to prison increase greatly. The end.

Zulithe 01-28-2023 04:50 PM

I don't like or support what happened one bit. But once again the popular narrative is that the attack is based out of white supremacy. It doesn't matter that all involved where black, it was still white supremacy to them.

We are not going to make progress in the right direction if we are pointing fingers at the wrong culprit.

We can tackle policing issues without wrapping it in blanket of blame on white people. The rise of racial hatred against white people is one of the most important issues in our society today, and we have a huge chunk of the population who refuses to acknowledge that it is exactly that: racial hatred.

If you seriously blame white supremacy, then do you think that is also the cause of state violence in other countries as well? Ignorance.

IMJ 01-28-2023 06:52 PM

There is an easy solution to the problem. Look at and correct your own behavior, public conduct, and presentation of self. That's it. It works for cops and society's "victims".

Galactus 01-28-2023 08:13 PM

This has been on the prime time news here in the UK for two days so I don't think this story has been buried under the carpet.

Allegedly he was stopped because the cops thought he was driving recklessly. If that's the case then surely the proper procedure should be to ask him to get out of the car, ask to see his drivers license, ask him if he's had anything to drink etc. What they should not have done was instantly try and drag the guy out of his car. I don't know how much IMJ knows about human nature but when someone puts there hands on you unexpectedly it's a natural reaction to resist. Putting aside the totally understandable distrust of the police that most black Americans have people have a natural fight or flight reaction. In this case he wasn't trying to fight the cops he was trying to get away from the people physically assaulting him for no reason. Sadly running away is one of the worst things guys can do to cops. They call it the "run tax" if you make them run they'll punish you more for it. That's why even when he was appropriately subdued they carried on beating for another two minutes.

I don't think the fact that the police in this case were black changes anything. This is part the culture of the police force that is ingrained into recruits at the academy and compounded when they actually serve; Black people are more of a threat and you can't take any chances with them. That's why so many white mass shooters are taken alive while guys like Tyre Nicols who at best may have committed a minor traffic offence (and the validity of that claim is being debated) ends up lynched to death.

Where the racial element does change things is the aftermath. Look how swifty the officers were fired and charged compared to the many white cops that are merely suspended pending investigation. Even more important is how the media is treating this; Fox News of all places are condemning these five cops instead defending them or coming up with bogus excuses like they usually do. Tyre is actually being spoken about as a victim. They are so far not trying to drag up any dirt on him to make out in some way he had it coming. Of course that may very well be because he was a legit decent guy but you shouldn't have to be a proverbial saint for people to feel sorry you being killed by the police.

ChosenOne 01-28-2023 08:45 PM

Boo-hoo. Here's hoping you never have any sort of reason to call the police, those dastardly villains.

Coola Yagami 01-28-2023 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus (Post 1954426)

Where the racial element does change things is the aftermath. Look how swifty the officers were fired and charged compared to the many white cops that are merely suspended pending investigation. Even more important is how the media is treating this; Fox News of all places are condemning these five cops instead defending them or coming up with bogus excuses like they usually do. .

Dude, good catch! I didn't notice that, but you're right! If they were white they would have just been suspended or whatever, but these guys were fired on the spot.

ChosenOne 01-28-2023 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1954429)
Dude, good catch! I didn't notice that, but you're right! If they were white they would have just been suspended or whatever, but these guys were fired on the spot.

Yep, yep. Just ask Derek Chauvin. Oh... Hol'up.

Coola Yagami 01-28-2023 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1954436)
Yep, yep. Just ask Derek Chauvin. Oh... Hol'up.

Yeah but wasn't that like waaaaaay later? Wasn't a lot of the BLM backlash and stuff because he was just suspended at first and not fired?

ChosenOne 01-28-2023 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1954437)
Yeah but wasn't that like waaaaaay later? Wasn't a lot of the BLM backlash and stuff because he was just suspended at first and not fired?

Nope, the very next day. BLM gonna BLM, they'll grasp at any straws for an excuse to burn and pillage stuff.

Coola Yagami 01-28-2023 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1954439)
Nope, the very next day. BLM gonna BLM, they'll grasp at any straws for an excuse to burn and pillage stuff.

Damn, the details have become fuzzy to me. It feels like the whole George Floyd thing was eons ago.

member_removed 01-28-2023 10:37 PM

The guy was asshole and so was George Floyd, assholes gunna asshole.

As for this case if five Tennessee black cops want to go after one person, I hear Megan Hall is free.

Coola Yagami 01-28-2023 11:04 PM

That's another thing. It's always this huge number of cops that go after a single black dude as if he's the freakin Juggernaut or something. Like it seems it's always like 'WE GOT A BLACK MAN, I REPEAT, WE GOT A BLACK MAN. ALL HANDS ON DECK!!!! ALL SQUAD CARS REPORT TO THIS LOCATION ASAP!!!"

Cowabung-Gal 01-28-2023 11:04 PM



The anti-racist activists and politicians say, “We need to get rid of racism!” over and over every day, but here’s what they will never admit: they actually don’t want to get rid of racism. They need racism because it gives them purpose, money, and power. Without conflict, there’s no need for a savior who has all the solutions. They deliberately keep racism alive while claiming that they want to put an end to it.

That’s why they make up things like “internalized white supremacy” and will call these black cops “racist” for their actions. To the rational person who doesn’t fall for propaganda and actually uses their brain, that makes no sense whatsoever. But to the person who lets the MSM do the thinking for them, that makes perfect sense.

Dpooly84 01-29-2023 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1954408)
I don’t know the details, but five cops beating up on one person seems excessive to me regardless of what the person did.

At least there's one logical thought in here, allot of y'all need to think about what your saying. In what world does running from the cops deserve to be beating to death? Get outta your basement

ChosenOne 01-29-2023 07:43 AM

Sorry, I left the world's smallest violin in my other pants.

IMJ 01-29-2023 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dpooly84 (Post 1954460)
In what world does running from the cops deserve to be beating to death? Get outta your basement

I don't think anyone said that. You are hearing what suits your own woe-is-me I'm persecuted agenda/culture. Nobody said the guy deserved being beat to death. Actually it's exactly the opposite.

TurtleManiac 01-29-2023 11:57 AM

It says here he died of cardiac arrest 3 days after the incident?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-officers.html

Initially I thought he died at the scene or same day but didn’t know all the details. That is crazy if the beating caused him to go into cardiac arrest 3 days later.

Also was reading on Twitter rumors that 2 of the officers were new diversity hires after the police were defunded, lowered the hiring qualifications, and they possibly had ties to some street gangs. Some users suggesting this may have been a targeted attack.

Coola Yagami 01-29-2023 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleManiac (Post 1954479)
It says here he died of cardiac arrest 3 days after the incident?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-officers.html

Initially I thought he died at the scene or same day but didn’t know all the details. That is crazy if the beating caused him to go into cardiac arrest 3 days later.

Also was reading on Twitter rumors that 2 of the officers were new diversity hires after the police were defunded, lowered the hiring qualifications, and they possibly had ties to some street gangs. Some users suggesting this may have been a targeted attack.

Hmm that could be. Makes a lot more sense than 'it's internalized racism'.

Sadly that won't stop people from saying' no no no, none of that, stop asking questions, stop looking into it, it's and open and shut case of white supremacy."

Anarchistguy 01-30-2023 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1954369)
Doesn't that only work for white people though?

No. It works with everybody. I've never had any problems with the police as a black man because I've never mouthed off or acted arrogant at them.

Vegita-San 01-30-2023 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurtleManiac (Post 1954479)
It says here he died of cardiac arrest 3 days after the incident?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-officers.html

Initially I thought he died at the scene or same day but didn’t know all the details. That is crazy if the beating caused him to go into cardiac arrest 3 days later.

Also was reading on Twitter rumors that 2 of the officers were new diversity hires after the police were defunded, lowered the hiring qualifications, and they possibly had ties to some street gangs. Some users suggesting this may have been a targeted attack.

Now, THAT makes alot more sense. maybe they found another gang member and finally 'got' him?

THIS is why you have to ask 'what's the REAL story' these days.


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