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RaphaelinSTL 03-23-2023 10:15 AM

God of War inspired Last Ronin Game in Development
 
Breaking from Polygon today.

Beloved TMNT graphic novel The Last Ronin is becoming a video game

https://i.postimg.cc/cH016ZYD/tlr-lee-0.webp

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A new, very different style of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game is currently in development: an adaptation of The Last Ronin, the 2020 graphic novel that told a grim, futuristic story about the turtles.

Like the comic, The Last Ronin video game adaptation will be a darker, more mature take on the typically colorful Ninja Turtles, according to Doug Rosen, senior vice president for games and emerging media at Paramount Global, the rights holders for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. In an interview with Polygon last week, Rosen likened the upcoming third-person action role-playing game to Sony’s recent God of War titles and said it will be authentic to the story of The Last Ronin arc, which is set in a future where only one of the turtles has survived.

While other TMNT games, like last year’s Shredder’s Revenge, are typically about playing as all four turtles (and sometimes their allies Splinter, April O’Neil, and Casey Jones), The Last Ronin will be a primarily a single-character game. Though Rosen posited that other characters could be playable in flashback sequences, similar to how the comic series plays out, the primary action is said to center on the only surviving turtle.
Looks to be still in development and the "few years off from release" worries me a bit, but exciting news!

AquaParade 03-23-2023 10:49 AM

lol holy crap. I told y'all TLR would be huge for the brand.

I got a surprising amount of blowback here which is why I'm tooting my horn.

Cowabung-Gal 03-23-2023 10:53 AM

It was only a matter of time.

It just hope that Abby Anderson doesn’t appear and smash Michelangelo’s head in with a golf club.

RaphaelinSTL 03-23-2023 10:54 AM

The "there are opportunities for multiple TMNT games aimed at both young and more mature age groups, and that Paramount can take “multiple approaches [to the franchise], and not dial back to make the game something it shouldn’t be” part of the interview in the article sounds very promising too.

AquaParade 03-23-2023 10:54 AM

This is going to keep escalating. An animated adaption is already in the works, I guarantee. We may even get a premium series or movie at some point.

Allio 03-23-2023 11:04 AM

My favorite part of the game was when Mikey said “it isn’t about the last ronin, it was about the last Ron-us”

CyberCubed 03-23-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade (Post 1959136)
This is going to keep escalating. An animated adaption is already in the works, I guarantee. We may even get a premium series or movie at some point.

It'll probably get a quick adaption like all the DC movies and the Batman vs TMNT movie.

AquaParade 03-23-2023 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1959143)
It'll probably get a quick adaption like all the DC movies and the Batman vs TMNT movie.

I expect something like that too, but it needs a bigger budget. Those recent DC movies look and sound cheap. Maybe a more premium series for Paramount+ or something can be worked out.

CyberCubed 03-23-2023 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade (Post 1959144)
I expect something like that too, but it needs a bigger budget. Those recent DC movies look and sound cheap. Maybe a more premium series for Paramount+ or something can be worked out.

It'll be exactly like those, and the animated adaption probably won't be 1:1 with the comic but condense or change things, same as the Batman/TMNT crossover movie.

Just expect a straight to DVD/streaming movie adaption of it at most.

AquaParade 03-23-2023 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1959153)
It'll be exactly like those, and the animated adaption probably won't be 1:1 with the comic but condense or change things, same as the Batman/TMNT crossover movie.

Just expect a straight to DVD/streaming movie adaption of it at most.

It's a different studio so we really don't have a point of comparison in regards to budget or production.

Dpooly84 03-23-2023 12:51 PM

I'm all in for this! Let's go

Andrew NDB 03-23-2023 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL (Post 1959130)
Looks to be still in development and the "few years off from release" worries me a bit, but exciting news!

Might be cool. Seems like the kind of game that runs the risk of overpromising, will miss a few release dates, then run out of money and be dumped out without much fanfare but with bugs.

RaphaelinSTL 03-23-2023 12:57 PM

Essentially most AAA titles then, haha.

CyberCubed 03-23-2023 02:06 PM

This game won't be out for 3-4 years if it's a real AAA game and not some short thing. By then The Last Ronin comic will he a distant memory, I have no idea why they think interest in the comic will he around another 4 years from now.

AquaParade 03-23-2023 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1959181)
This game won't be out for 3-4 years if it's a real AAA game and not some short thing. By then The Last Ronin comic will he a distant memory, I have no idea why they think interest in the comic will he around another 4 years from now.

I don’t see the issue. The comic may still be around then, as it’s an ongoing universe now. They are looking at the hardcover as an “evergreen book” and you can’t blame them. It’s still selling incredibly well. Better than any other tmnt comic ever.

There is also the fact that it’ll still be a tmnt property, so it’s marketable even if TLR disappears tomorrow, which it won’t. But your comment is interesting.
Maybe they have even more planned for the universe than they are letting on.

Either way, this is a good route to take the video game because they are aiming it at older fans, which TLR is suited for.

Also, I get the feeling they haven’t chosen a developer yet and it’s hard to get too excited until we know. This feels like a way to drum up excitement and secure a partner.

CyberCubed 03-23-2023 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade (Post 1959186)
I don’t see the issue. The comic may still be around then, as it’s an ongoing universe now. They are looking at the hardcover as an “evergreen book” and you can’t blame them. It’s still selling incredibly well. Better than any other tmnt comic ever.

There is also the fact that it’ll still be a tmnt property, so it’s marketable even if TLR disappears tomorrow, which it won’t. But your comment is interesting.
Maybe they have even more planned for the universe than they are letting on.

Either way, this is a good route to take the video game because they are aiming it at older fans, which TLR is suited for.

IDW as a whole might not even exist 4 years from now. Also I assume after the prequel comic ends that will be it for this universe. There's not much else they can do with it since all the Turtles are dead and further prequels would be absurd.

Andrew NDB 03-23-2023 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1959187)
IDW as a whole might not even exist 4 years from now. Also I assume after the prequel comic ends that will be it for this universe. There's not much else they can do with it since all the Turtles are dead and further prequels would be absurd.

I'd be positive the long-term goal is to eventually just focus on the new generation of TMNT it introduced.

shredder orokusaki 03-23-2023 04:19 PM

I WILL KILL THE TURTLES! GRRRR

https://wccftech.com/teenage-mutant-...re-god-of-war/

IndigoErth 03-23-2023 05:43 PM

Neat!! :D Not much of a gamer so unsure if I'll ever get the chance to try it out (unless its available via computer and I have an updated system by then), but will definitely check out people's game play videos. Good to see it reach broader attention, and maybe grab some further attention for TMNT, esp for more mature content, in the process.

AquaParade 03-23-2023 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1959187)
IDW as a whole might not even exist 4 years from now. Also I assume after the prequel comic ends that will be it for this universe. There's not much else they can do with it since all the Turtles are dead and further prequels would be absurd.

No, “TLR 2 “ has already been confirmed.

It’s the best selling book IDW has ever made. It’s not going away even if IDW collapses. The book is a best seller.

LeotheLateBloomer 03-23-2023 09:03 PM

This is the best news I've heard since either the Batman crossover or The Last Ronin's existence! I hope they don't screw this up! *fingers crossed*

TheLabRat 03-23-2023 09:15 PM

Honestly, I've no confidence in the writing of most modern AAA games.

Hope we never see some crap writing like TLOU2. Like "When Mikey was about to kill Hiroto, he suddenly recalled the past of his family, so he gave up killing Hiroto. Because revenge is hollow and bad."

Toxin45 03-23-2023 09:34 PM

I mean last ronin is completed so they will adapt the series into a full game. Plus we have a prequel that is releasing now and an upcoming sequel series so if they get completed we can get them into games.

Andrew NDB 03-23-2023 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLabRat (Post 1959231)
Hope we never see some crap writing like TLOU2. Like "When Mikey was about to kill Hiroto, he suddenly recalled the past of his family, so he gave up killing Hiroto. Because revenge is hollow and bad."

Ehhh... TLOU2 is a bit different in that way. I don't like a lot of the choices or directions they went with things or the boxes they felt compelled to check but I can't deny that was quality writing the whole way. And Ellie wasn't raised to be a killer ninja from near birth.

RaphaelinSTL 03-23-2023 10:28 PM

So would be the studio you would all trust to work and do actual justice on this game?

Aaronardo 03-23-2023 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL (Post 1959135)
"there are opportunities for multiple TMNT games aimed at both young and more mature age groups, and that Paramount can take “multiple approaches [to the franchise], and not dial back to make the game something it shouldn’t be”

That caught my eye, too. This is amazing news. On a conceptual level, this is exactly what I hoped would happen. If done right, this could be something special.

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Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL (Post 1959236)
So would be the studio you would all trust to work and do actual justice on this game?

Sloclap's Sifu from last year was basically a TLR game but as a human instead of a turtle. The combat itself was surprisingly challenging and fun. Them being an indie studio, I could see Paramount offering Sloclap this and I think they could handle it really well.

I know they bungled the last one and they seem to be distancing themselves from IP work now, but I'd be good with PlatinumGames taking another whack at it. Capcom would be a fairly respectable choice too, though they're a bigger studio. I doubt Paramount's going to go after higher-profile studios for a project like this, especially since working with a smaller studio paid so well with Shredder's Revenge. Not sure if I'd like to be wrong on this or not, given the state of AAA games.

CyberCubed 03-24-2023 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade (Post 1959216)
No, “TLR 2 “ has already been confirmed.

It’s the best selling book IDW has ever made. It’s not going away even if IDW collapses. The book is a best seller.

If it's about those new set of Turtles, it's going to bomb fast. The Last Ronin isn't a series you can keep going on forever. It was meant to tell a simple story and then end (which is why Kevin/Peter conceived it as a one-off), and the prequel comic is already pushing it. Keeping this going is just IDW trying to make as much money off it as they can but it can only go so far.

RaphaelinSTL 03-24-2023 08:20 AM

From what I'm seeing so far, the sales of the newest iteration of The Last Ronin have been super strong as well. Seems like this is a TMNT brand that's doing well as a whole.

HotJuicyBurgers 03-24-2023 08:28 AM

Not sure how I missed this thread! Sorry about making the other one,

But yah I don’t want to get my hopes up TOO much for this but… when was the last time a Tmnt game was AAA? Snes era? Really hoping they get a good developer for this. In my brain I immediately thought it would be cool if insomniac could make it but… obviously not happening

AquaParade 03-24-2023 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1959242)
If it's about those new set of Turtles, it's going to bomb fast. The Last Ronin isn't a series you can keep going on forever. It was meant to tell a simple story and then end (which is why Kevin/Peter conceived it as a one-off), and the prequel comic is already pushing it. Keeping this going is just IDW trying to make as much money off it as they can but it can only go so far.

The prequel book has been selling very well. The sequel will sell even better, most likely. This seems to be a book that jumps around the timeline, so I don’t see any reason it needs to stop.

It’s sales are stronger than the ongoing, the original tmnt are still popping up in the book quite frequently, and Kevin is super passionate about it. I don’t see it going away anytime soon. Especially because the delays alone will drag it out another four years :P.

But again, even if the series ends, the hardcover will still be selling copies. It’s an evergreen book now. When people ask for TMNT recommendations, TLR will be constantly listed in the future. It’s pretty safe at this point.

IMJ 03-24-2023 11:07 AM

I can't help but feel a game built on the Arkham Asylum platform might be more fitting than a God of War/Lords of Shadow style one.

grizzgolf 03-24-2023 06:16 PM

I can’t wait!!!!

ProphetofGanja 03-24-2023 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 1959265)
I can't help but feel a game built on the Arkham Asylum platform might be more fitting than a God of War/Lords of Shadow style one.

Right? I was scratching my head when I heard the God of War comparison too

Cowabung-Gal 03-24-2023 08:51 PM

I’ll be listening to “Live and Learn” during the final battle between Michelangelo and Hiroto:



Brings back good memories: my brother trying to beat the final boss 50 times on SA2, and then I beat it on my first try. :lol:

LeotheLateBloomer 03-27-2023 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 1959265)
I can't help but feel a game built on the Arkham Asylum platform might be more fitting than a God of War/Lords of Shadow style one.

An Arkham style game is what I wanted for TMNT for the longest time. Still, the fact that this is a thing makes me excited. A triple-A TMNT game? Sign me up!

Filespit 03-27-2023 10:17 AM

Incredibly exciting news! I've never played any of the older God of War games, but I've played some of the "reboot" game. It's a good game, no doubt, but kinda linear. I certainly hope the TLR game will be more of an open world that embraces the ninja/stealth-side of TMNT. Either way though, super stoked for this and hopefully we'll get a bit more information soon. I pray to the game gods that this ends up good!

AquaParade 03-27-2023 12:22 PM

I wouldn't read too much into the GOW comment. It's probably just meant to convey that this is a AAA game, with high production budget and a focus on story/atmosphere.

This is pretty much the case for any modern AAA action/adventure game, whether that lean towards God of War, Elden Ring, Spider-Man, etc.

God of War being the best choice to get people's attention. I actually think the recent GoW game was a mess, but it's still quite the name to lob out there. Expectations will be high.

CyberCubed 03-27-2023 01:27 PM

This game doesn't even have a developer, it's not happening for 3-4 years. See you when the Playstation 6 is out.

AquaParade 03-27-2023 01:36 PM

I don't mind waiting but I can't get truly excited until we know who the developer is. You can't compare the game to God of War and then give it to some team that's primarily known for porting games or doing licensed titles or something. You need a big name developer.

That said, they chose the right choices for the two retro games they released last year, so it seems like they are paying attention to what works.

RaphaelinSTL 03-28-2023 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade (Post 1959450)
That said, they chose the right choices for the two retro games they released last year, so it seems like they are paying attention to what works.

Exactly. That's how I'm looking at it as well, given how incredible 2022 was for TMNT and video games. You'd like to think they'd want to keep that momentum going and keep things positive ... but like you too, I'm hoping we hear something worthwhile about the right developer for the project.

I actually just got The Last Ronin book in the mail today and just wrapped up the first three chapters ... this is going to make a fantastic game if done right.


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