A New Star Wars Film Slate: Daisy Ridley Returning
 

Obaid-Chinoy said her film “will tell the story of the rebuilding of a new Jedi order.”


That is what the sequel trilogy was about or at least why it wasn't.:roll: No Skywalker saga, no Star Wars. Sorry money leeching Disney Grogu's cuteness can only get you so far.

ugh why would you make more sequel era crap. most Star Wars fans hate it. I don't want more of Rey Palpatine

Disney has tried to double down on their Star Wars plans so many times now that I'll believe it when I see it. The number of announcements with fan backlash that have never manifested yet Disney held onto for years just to save face - Hedlund, Johnson's 'trilogy', etc. :roll:

I'll believe it when I see it, and even then - decide at that time whether it's worth giving dollars to.

Diversity hire director is a bit concerning. That's not just something you hand out. We'll see. Obviously not-so-Baby Yoda will be a part of this. You know, rub some Mandalorian on things so as to make them more palatable.

As a casual fan, I'll only get truly interested if they take some big swings with tone and direction. I like the idea of Star Wars more than I like Star Wars itself.

There's a lot to appreciate about it, don't get me wrong, but the story itself isn't usually able to pull me in. I may actually get around to watching "Andor" though because it sounds like that show may have taken some risks.

Serious question here, does anyone care about Rey? As in, does anyone care about the character herself and not some meta crap she represents or the temporary mystery of her backstory?

You know... I don't hate "Rey" as a character. And I like Daisy Ridley. And I liked The force Awakens - I thought it was great. But I gave it leeway because I thought 2 more movies of bridging OT characters would be coming and it dropped precipitously down hill from there.

But they dropped the ball on so much with Rey as well as that trilogy that it's hard to recover. Luke could've been a badass training her. She could've been a Kenobi and the sort of karma balance there would've been great. Han, Luke and Leia could've had their second trilogy and then Rey could have had theirs. It all went so wrong.

I don't mind Rey, but it's so far gone now that I don't care. Star Wars movies simply don't have any stakes anymore and the thing that kept the ongoing story interesting would've been the bloodline of the Skywalkers and not an adopted name that could've, poetically, been "Kenobi".

As they say, the thrill is gone. I don't care anymore.

Rey Sue...?
It'd take a lot to make her character seem good.

I mean, I hate to say it, but the only thing worse than all the surviving characters from VII-IX themselves is if nothing ends up becoming of them afterward. It would all just be a giant pit of waste then.

If the new SW films had any effect on me (and I've only seen VII and Rogue One), it's that I never want to see any Star Wars Films ever again apart from the original trilogy.

So, to hell with this.

I'd prefer to forget ST ever had happened.

Which most of us do, but that's not a recipe for longevity. People tend to think of stories in terms of their beginning, middle and end, and how the "end" ends up can taint everything else before it, no matter what cool little events they can make up around the Mandalorian times 5 years after RotJ. If they can make quality stuff after the ST that semi redeems the ST stuff, eventually the ST can just be treated as a hiccup in the bigger picture.

Of course, I don't have much faith in that happening in a Kennedy-led SW franchise. But it COULD, and that probably should be their focus. Not "well look at what happened 40 years before Episode I!" or "look at these other Jedi adventures 2000 years ago!"

Everything else aside, there is one thing about this that infuriates me about this above all else....

,,,, rebuilding the Jedi order was the responsibility that LUKE earned through his hero's journey and all his hard work and suffering in the original trilogy...

...it was LUKE'S legacy, in both Legends/the old EU and George Lucas's proposed sequel trilogy, rebuilding the jedi was LUKE'S achievement....

...to rip it away from him, make Luke a failure, and give the honor of rebuilding the Jedi to a new character, no matter who they are...

...it is the most scummy, underhanded, idiotic, trashy, worthless twist of storytelling I have ever wasted my money on.

The old EU/legends and George's story sequel trilogy story treatment (if it ever gets released to the public) are the only canon for me. I don't care how good the post-sequel trilogy media is, anything where Rey rebuilds the Jedi instead of Luke is worthless trash. I will never spend another dime on Kathleen Kennedy's self-insert Star Wars fanfic ever again.

Pretty much. They stripped away everything that Luke and company accomplished in the OT like within the first 30 minutes of episode 7, just so we can go right back to Smuggler Han and Millennium Falcon dogfighting TIE Fighters again. It's horrific. And that's even before getting into what 8 and 9 did!

I always knew they would bring Rey back for a new movie eventually, I just thought they'd wait 10+ years so the kids who grew up with the sequel trilogy would be nostalgic for it. This feels just way too soon. I looked at the actress and she doesn't even look that much older than she did when she played Rey.

I mean I know episode 7 came out way back in 2015 which is awhile ago but the last movie came out in 2019 so it was only 3 years ago. I don't know, I feel like they should of waited a good decade before making this. Rey could have had nostalgia going for her in another decade.

2019 was 4 years ago. And they filmed it in 2018. This new Rey movie probably won't even start filming for a year, year and a half, assuming it's even the first off the line. By the time it comes out it will easily have been 6, 7 or more years since IX. Light makeup and its fine.

IMO, longevity was out of windows, when they made ST whatever it is.
SW was living through the movies and all that TV guff is just a filler. Popular, yes, but it will be forgotten, especially, since Disney ***** out those series like a goblin with explosive diarrhea.

Movies had longevity, but were tainted by ST. And without new trilogy all they can do is to **** out spin-offs, which will be forgotten few years after being produced.

Unless someone competent will come in and clean their shithouse (like removing all the current writers and KK) and produce new competent big trilogy, I don't think SW will become true juggernaut again.

What's even the point rebuilding of a new Jedi order? I thought the new canon made it clear that you could become a super Jedi with no training whatsoever?

It was in old movies (not OT, though), so something-something nostalgia and canons.

Well, the whole thing is stupid. George clearly showed that the Jedi Order was a fundamentally flawed thing, and "deserved" to crumble. The way he most likely would have gone in his ST would have been to have Luke taking Force users and carving out some kind of new Order, one that learned from the failures of the Jedi with members called something other than "Jedi." Something new.

Do you think more numbered movies are coming? Will this new one with Rey be called "Episode X"?

Sounds like no, there won't be an episode X moniker.

I know this is Cosmicbooknews... but these are actual people saying a thing. About this Rey director that hasn't done much of anything before but... Pakistani so yay!!!

https://cosmicbook.news/ms-marvel-su...n-obaid-chinoy

https://www.darkhorizons.com/early-s...order-details/

Yes, Rey is training a boy and girl, and -- surprise! -- it is the girl that possesses "extraordinary abilities" over the boy.

Omfg...

https://comicbook.com/starwars/news/...-obaid-chinoy/

"I'm very thrilled about the project because I feel what we're about to create is something very special," Obaid-Chinoy shared with CNN. "And we're in 2024 now, and it's about time that we had a woman come forward to shape a story in a galaxy far, far away."

This thing NEEDS to fail.

Did this lady forget about Deborah Chow who did Obi Wan? :roll:

I'm kinda glad this is happening. I mean the sequel trilogy left a mess, if this movie can at least set up something that can be built upon later then why not. I mean it's impossible to fix the sequel trilogy but perhaps from it being literal sh-t it could at least be redeemed so it's just a bad story then I say go for it. They can only wh-re out so much content from the before ST/OT eras. I don't want anymore empire vs rebels crap.

I mean you're preaching to the choir here. I'm just more morbidly curious about how they try to salvage something out of the ST than getting medicore/good shows or movies that no matter what will lead to the ST.
Don't get me wrong SWs is basically dead to me now, I can still enjoy the OT and the PT, but from there i do my own choose your own adventure over what happens from all the EU content that exists and perhaps even some Disney SWs content if it's ever good enough. I just try to enjoy cool stories and not worry about the continuity since FUBAR.

So whatever Rei did in the ST doesn't count anymore, huh?

Its funny how this SJWtards and those who pretend to be them, still pretend that HISTORY STARTS WITH THEM. Its not like there were amazing movies with female protagonists before ST. Its not like Star Wars itself already had one of the most influential female protagonists in history of fiction (Leia, of course), who was a good character and not a stereotype. Its not that Rei was the main heroine of ST.

Nope. Everything null and void until CURRENT WRITERS come to bring the world from dark ages and bring DIVERSITY into fiction, which was inhabited only by angry heterosexual White male protagonists for as long as history exists. Even events which had happened few years ago, like ST...

I am seriously wondering: are people who think like this are high on their own farts or trying to peddle ********, hoping that some retarded bumpkins, who were disconnected from a culture for the last dozen years will buy it?

Like, seriously? How their statement make sense, when they had the whole trilogy about Rei? Or how it works, when they had the series (animated and live action) about female protagonist, Ahsoka? Like, Leia, Ahsoka, Rei do not count now? They were "wrong female protagonists"? And Ahsoka series was last year, not in the 80s...

****, those gaslighting retards. I hope this **** will crash and burn, like ST or Marvels. Not, because, I don't think it can be good, but to teach those ****wads a lesson. Yes, its purely spite talking right now, but I seriously tired of those lying ****ing cretins, pretending, that they are THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE in the history and everything before them was wrong somehow.

Arrogant trash, like them should know their place, I say.

Two things of note:
1) Given statement above, it will be the same gaslighting nonsense as ST. Which means, overpowered Mary Sue as protagonist, who is ALWAYS right. Dumb companions who sing praises to the main protagonist, because, how dare their criticize strong independent woman in a CURRENT YEAR? Dumb villains with zero personality outside of "I am evil, because, plot demands it" and the story, which works, because, Mary Sue need to advance through it. Not, because, it is a good story.

2) There is nothing to redeem in ST. Its a trash pile, which should be forgotten and de-canonized, not even, because, of SJWs, but because its whole conception was bad. It was born out of KK and JJ desire to copy Original Trilogy, because, "muh nostalgia". This is a very wrong attitude, when you create a sequel and not a viable solution in the long run.

It was made worse, because, they started it without any plan or even a vision behind it, hoping to wing it as they go. Gladly Ruin Johnson ****ed up everything even more and thanks to his inadvertent sabotage, completely ruined Disney's plans for a ST.

3) Its not like Disney works set in OT era are better.

To put it simply, Disney is yet to produce something related to Star Wars on big screen or TV, which would be unquestionably good or not mired in some sort of backlash. Andor is probably the closest thing they got.

So there is a little hope for this series. And given their statement, it most likely will be just another bag of trash on top of the garbage pile that is Dinsey's Star Wars.

There is absolutely no reason to think this movie would even be halfway decent. And they've given it to a Pakistani woman who hasn't ever directed a movie before (but she's directed some Ms. Marvel!) just because she's Pakistani. And a woman. It'd be one thing if Kathleen Kennedy scoured the film scene and found a seasoned writer/director and put them on this. Then there'd be at least some degree of hope.

I would have thought they would wait 15-20 years to bring Rey back to wait till the actress got older and do a new trilogy again for new fans, but this is way too soon. Episode 9 came out in 2019 which was way too recent to already be doing a follow-up

Let not your heart be troubled. The Rey movie is never happening. It's just Kathleen Kennedy's goons stirring **** up on her behalf.

The director is now saying that her goal is "to make men uncomfortable."

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/202...gp3su5tm479opi

You couldn't make this sh** up. Unbelievable.

Damn Kathleen really knows how to pick them :roll:

eh, I kinda feel Star Wars needed to just be the original trilogy and maaaaybe the prequel trilogy. I guess keep the Clone Wars show since it was released while the prequel trilogy and people love it.

I feel all these movies and solo movies and tv shows and blah blah blah whatever nonsense just cheapens the product. Similar to the MCU going from movies to tons of tv shows and movies and whatever, Star Wars stopped being an epic cinematic event and is now just being milked dry.

Well the thing is the old EU which had hundreds of books, comics and videogames was largely ignored by casuals or the general public. But Star Wars already had tons of extra nonsense, it's just that nobody cared (outside hardcore fans), because it wasn't in a movie or show. I played a lot of Star Wars videogames back in the day that are now non-canon like Rogue Squardon and Shadows of the Empire, both were "extra" stories but it didn't really matter.

Just a month ago Bob Iger stated how they'd start looking into things more closely in terms of quality and storytelling. These things aren't done overnight, anything announced about this movie recently has already been in the work for much longer. I'm sure it'll be affected by the new quality control Iger promised investors. I mean after merchandise sales lowered, and they didn't really make enough new female fans to make up for the lost audience. They aren't just going to make a fourth Rey movie after the failure of Episode IX. It'll likely be what Episode 7 should've been from the start, only Rey taking the role Luke should've had since well they killed him.

The new EU is ignored by casuals too, at least the books/comics. But even the tv shows, I doubt most people besides the hardcore and big fans checked anything out more than the Mandalorian.

I mean the new EU was supposed to fix things but by the end of the first year you already had crazy stories like Han Solo's other wife and whatnot. So yeah I'll consider the Dark Forces story as the canon way of how they got the death star's plans instead of the cliche Rogue One. It doesn't really matter, Disney doesn't care about canon either.

You seem pretty triggered so she's succeeding. You're giving the brand the attention they want by even bringing this up. These "controversies" are done on purpose so people talk about the movies/shows. It's not some big conspiracy, just engagement numbers.

it really does. pulling up disney+ and it's full of star wars content, while a dream come true for star wars fans in a way I feel overwhelmed by the amount of shows/cartoons that have come out that I would need to catch up on, and all for a universe that I don't even like how it ended making it more difficult to care. I already saw the Luke compilations on youtube, so why waste dozens and dozens of hours of my life if I can watch the best those shows can offer in 5-10 minute youtube recaps with footage of the cool parts.

It's just knee-slappingly hysterical, or it would be if it wasn't so sad. It's like they took Toon Town exaggerated elements from Brie Larson's worst, most cringey sound bites, a South Park-sized caricature of what a diversity hire is (again, this lady has never even directed a movie), shook it up in a blender and made it into a director and then expected them to salvage SW in film... in a REY movie. Its really unbelievable.

If this really happens I'll be shocked. After the Iger apology to shareholders, this is the exact opposite acknowledgement of everything he was saying. Going to see "Episode IX" in the theater is one thing (there was, after all, some tiny hope it could have retroactively redeem the previous two parts of the trilogy) but this? I can't imagine many self-respecting Star Wars fans looking at this as anything but something they have a duty to NOT support.

I agree with that, it's why I don't think it's happening. And if it did it would bomb like The Marvels or worse and kill the brand. Even if they don't do that, I don't think it'll do amazing numbers because the brand is already tainted. With that said I do think they can show the metrics of interactions of the new movie being high because of people raging over wokeness which to them just means people are talking about the movie. But yeah whatever next star wars movie comees out I'm pretty confident it'll be constantly messed with a la WB with DC and yeah it's likely not going to be great but they won't have the freedom they had during the ST to do as they please.