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ChosenOne 06-22-2023 05:14 PM

All members of missing Titan submarine believed dead
 
https://variety.com/2023/film/news/t...ic-1235649790/

Death by live action Crichton/Benchley collab.

Just an awful tragedy for everyone involved, except the OceanGate CEO. F*ck that guy.

Andrew NDB 06-22-2023 05:17 PM

A massive implosion on its way down to the Titanic. Good grief, can you imagine it? You're just sitting there cross-legged on the floor and BOOM, the bulkhead a foot away from you explodes at you. And, most likely, you explode.

Also, it's really upsetting the number of people dancing on the graves of these people simply because they had a lot of money. I can understand the anger at the captain, but the actual delight, even celebration I'm seeing at the deaths... wow, that's some pretty telling stuff.

ChosenOne 06-22-2023 06:01 PM

They wouldn't even be aware of the implosion, it's as sudden as your ears popping. Which, considering the alternative in this case (slowly suffocating for several days while trapped in a cold, damp, silent and dark metal tube at the bottom of the sea in cramped conditions with no food, water or hope, while surrounded by bodily waste and four other panicked humans), was truly a mercy.

IMJ 06-22-2023 07:39 PM

I hated this story and have been hoping for days that they find these people. What an awful way to go, no matter how it happens.

triplexxx 06-23-2023 02:01 AM

Very depressing story, more body count added to the Titanic tragedy, surprised it wasn't brought up here earlier. Also, the CEO turned out to be the great-great-grandson-in-law of the old couple who sunk together with the Titanic, Isidor & Ida Straus.

Mayhem 06-23-2023 04:47 AM

Yeah for everything that’s happened, I’m a bit saddened by the supposed schadenfreude happening in some commentary circles. On the other hand as noted, if they were never coming back up alive, a quick and relatively painless demise was better than slowly suffocating to death.

ChosenOne 06-23-2023 09:44 AM

The family's reporting that the 19 year old didn't want to go but wanted to please his father since they departed on Father's Day. That's f*cking heartbreaking, I can't imagine the family's pain.

IndigoErth 06-23-2023 04:02 PM

Terribly sad...what a way to go, but was entirely their own foolish choice. That one guy who was going to go with them and changed his mind made the best and luckiest decision of his life.

Mayhem 06-23-2023 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1966148)
Terribly sad...what a way to go, but was entirely their own foolish choice. That one guy who was going to go with them and changed his mind made the best and luckiest decision of his life.

Would he have fit? I thought five was the max capacity. Still like sardines having seen the inside…

ChosenOne 06-23-2023 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1966148)
Terribly sad...what a way to go, but was entirely their own foolish choice. That one guy who was going to go with them and changed his mind made the best and luckiest decision of his life.

Not entirely true in the case of the kid who just wanted to please his dad.

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Originally Posted by Mayhem (Post 1966154)
Would he have fit? I thought five was the max capacity. Still like sardines having seen the inside…

I wouldn’t even want to be in there by myself, let alone with other people. Worse than being buried alive.

Mayhem 06-23-2023 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1966155)
I wouldn’t even want to be in there by myself, let alone with other people. Worse than being buried alive.

You certainly wouldn’t have gotten the better half anywhere near that, she can’t even ride a crowded Tube train without getting claustrophobic. Myself, would have been fine, except for the fact you don’t actually SEE the Titanic, it’s all projected on screens, no different to having the robot drone go down and transmit the images to the surface.

IndigoErth 06-23-2023 04:45 PM

There was a kid? Well that's horrible, poor kid.

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Originally Posted by Mayhem (Post 1966154)
Would he have fit? I thought five was the max capacity. Still like sardines having seen the inside…

Not sure, saw the guy speaking on the news. Maybe someone else took his spot after he changed his mind.

Andrew NDB 06-23-2023 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1966155)
I wouldn’t even want to be in there by myself,

Wouldn't that be even worse? Traveling to the bottom of the ocean all alone... deeper and deeper.

ChosenOne 06-23-2023 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayhem (Post 1966158)
Myself, would have been fine, except for the fact you don’t actually SEE the Titanic, it’s all projected on screens, no different to having the robot drone go down and transmit the images to the surface.

Exactly! I kept thinking about that to myself even before I learned they wouldn't be able to see a damn thing out the viewport anyway. Stay topside and watch if it's all the same. It's just that the bastard CEO wanted to go down there himself and conned four others into covering his fuel expenses (around 1 million, which amounts to four people at 250k a pop).

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1966161)
There was a kid? Well that's horrible, poor kid.

A 19 year old who, according to the family, didn't particularly want to go but was talked into it by his father and wanted to please him, especially since it was booked for Father's Day. Saddest part of the whole thing, IMO.

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1966161)
Not sure, saw the guy speaking on the news. Maybe someone else took his spot after he changed his mind.

You guys mean Mário Ferreira, right? He's a somewhat controversial figure here in Portugal but I'm glad he didn't go.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1966162)
Wouldn't that be even worse? Traveling to the bottom of the ocean all alone... deeper and deeper.

Not really. Not to me, at least. Orhers may feel differently. Plus, plenty of leg room.

Andrew NDB 06-23-2023 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1966163)
A 19 year old who, according to the family, didn't particularly want to go but was talked into it by his father and wanted to please him

Is this for sure? I was seeing this piece spreading like wildfire on social media, but just by people who clicked on a clickbait.

ChosenOne 06-23-2023 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1966164)
Is this for sure? I was seeing this piece spreading like wildfire on social media, but just by people who clicked on a clickbait.

Yes, his aunt said he was terrified of the sub but went along anyway.

IndigoErth 06-23-2023 06:14 PM

Okay, so it wasn't like an 8-year-old, but that's still a damn shame, he'll never really get to live life.

ChosenOne 06-23-2023 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1966173)
Okay, so it wasn't like an 8-year-old, but that's still a damn shame, he'll never really get to live life.

Only sane person there.

Coola Yagami 06-23-2023 07:33 PM

Yeah, Twitter is full of heatless heathens laughing, applauding and celebrating all these people dying, and you know... they're the ones on the right side of history so they say.

Like dude, human life is still human life. What the ****.

IMJ 06-23-2023 09:31 PM

I read somewhere that Musk is going to consider the use of "CIS" and "CISGendered" as hate speech.

And rightfully so because that's what it's become.

ssjup81 06-23-2023 10:02 PM

Man, I feel sorry for those on board, especially that one guy who went on there with his son. Turns out he didn't even want to go and only went because his father wanted him to.
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Originally Posted by Mayhem (Post 1966154)
Would he have fit? I thought five was the max capacity. Still like sardines having seen the inside…

He and his son were going to go, but the Pakistani guy and his son took their spots when those spots opened.

Cowabung-Gal 06-24-2023 07:18 AM

Well, I’m never going in a submarine again after this tragedy. Or at least, if I do, it will be with a sense of uneasiness

The Deadman 06-25-2023 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal (Post 1966219)
Well, I’m never going in a submarine again after this tragedy. Or at least, if I do, it will be with a sense of uneasiness

An actual submarine cant go down that far, if they could, they probably would have gotten to the craft a lot faster.

ChosenOne 06-25-2023 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal (Post 1966219)
Well, I’m never going in a submarine again after this tragedy. Or at least, if I do, it will be with a sense of uneasiness

"Again"? You've been in one before? How was it?

Cowabung-Gal 06-25-2023 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1966292)
"Again"? You've been in one before? How was it?

It was years ago. My family went to Honolulu Hawaii for vacation. We got into this small submarine and explored some part of the Pacific Ocean. It was amazing! And the water was absolutely gorgeous.

ChosenOne 06-25-2023 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal (Post 1966323)
It was years ago. My family went to Honolulu Hawaii for vacation. We got into this small submarine and explored some part of the Pacific Ocean. It was amazing! And the water was absolutely gorgeous.

Did it feel claustrophobic?

Cowabung-Gal 06-25-2023 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1966326)
Did it feel claustrophobic?

Depends on how claustrophobic you personally are. It was a bit of a tight squeeze, but all I cared about was watching the marine animals and fish passing by.

Coola Yagami 06-25-2023 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by IMJ (Post 1966195)
I read somewhere that Musk is going to consider the use of "CIS" and "CISGendered" as hate speech.

And rightfully so because that's what it's become.

He is, but how does that tie to the submarine story?

I personally am not a fan. It's a label they want to use on the rest of us that aren't doing the gender thing, similar to how they wish we'd all put pronouns in our social media despite the fact that our pronouns are the normal ones.

Pretty much they want everybody to play along with their labels, even normal people that are actually at peace with their birth gender.

ChosenOne 06-25-2023 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal (Post 1966327)
Depends on how claustrophobic you personally are. It was a bit of a tight squeeze, but all I cared about was watching the marine animals and fish passing by.

I don't think I am but I've never really been put to the test. What I am is thalassophobic, so I'll just stick to visiting the aquarium. I'm glad you had that chance and enjoyed the experience (and that everything went well), though.

oldmanwinters 06-25-2023 06:16 PM

Heh, the Maritime section:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._own_invention

Andrew NDB 06-25-2023 06:23 PM

I think I'd be OK getting aboard a reputably quality sub for a dive. I'd actually be more OK with that than flying, I think, which I do but it is terrifying every time.

Cowabung-Gal 06-25-2023 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1966336)
I don't think I am but I've never really been put to the test. What I am is thalassophobic, so I'll just stick to visiting the aquarium. I'm glad you had that chance and enjoyed the experience (and that everything went well), though.

Thanks. It’s def a good childhood memory to have

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1966339)
I think I'd be OK getting aboard a reputably quality sub for a dive. I'd actually be more OK with that than flying, I think, which I do but it is terrifying every time.

My mom is seriously claustrophobic so she can’t get in a sub or get on a plane. Had to drive 13 hours to get to Texas this weekend because of her fear of flying.

triplexxx 06-26-2023 07:10 PM

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Very depressing story, more body count added to the Titanic tragedy, surprised it wasn't brought up here earlier. Also, the CEO turned out to be the great-great-grandson-in-law of the old couple who sunk together with the Titanic, Isidor & Ida Straus.
Now it's been reported that the actor Lew Pelter, who played Isidor Straus in the Titanic movie, passed away at 94 about a month ago, albeit naturally, lung cancer. Maybe this incident is what got this put in the news.

IndigoErth 06-27-2023 01:33 PM

Oh great, the Titanic is metaphysically taking down people with any ties to it.



Edit: Not to go into dark humor after a tragic incident with that sub... (Though it's also sorta personal dark humor because some distant relative with my surname died on that ship so I could be screwed if that would-be wannabe-movie theme was real.)

ChosenOne 06-27-2023 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1966562)
Edit: Not to go into dark humor after a tragic incident with that sub...

Come, now. Deep down, you know you crushed it.

Andrew NDB 06-27-2023 06:57 PM

Yeesh. "Human sauce."


oldmanwinters 06-27-2023 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1966626)
Yeesh. "Human sauce."

I guess it’s a less painful way to go. Most folks assume the space shuttle explosions instantly disintegrated the astronauts, but… it was probably way worse for any that didn’t immediately lose consciousness.

Andrew NDB 06-27-2023 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1966634)
I guess it’s a less painful way to go. Most folks assume the space shuttle explosions instantly disintegrated the astronauts, but… it was probably way worse for any that didn’t immediately lose consciousness.

Wasn't it the Columbia explosion where they said the astronauts didn't die in the explosion, but cooked to death in the cabin on the way down?

ChosenOne 06-28-2023 01:29 PM

https://news.sky.com/story/submersib...osion-12911152

Well, I'm never squeezing the remaining toothpaste out of the tube the same way again...

IMJ 06-28-2023 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1966332)
He is, but how does that tie to the submarine story?

I mentioned it only in response to where you just said something about Twitter immediately above my response there. I was just affirming the context of what you said.


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