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ChosenOne 07-02-2023 09:56 PM

Biden admin wants to block the sun
 
https://tvpworld.com/70995815/biden-...climate-change

Once again, The Simpsons saw it coming... Goodness knows there's no way this could backfire spectacularly and apocalyptically, eh? 2024 can't get here soon enough.

Coola Yagami 07-02-2023 10:21 PM

It's scary how sometimes things like this are just so obviously wrong, but somehow there's enough people (or the right people with high enough rank, status or power) are either oblivious or purposely turning a blind eye to continue to allow these things to happen.

How the government handled CoVid was a prime example, especially in countries that took it even farther like Australia.

Sumac 07-03-2023 02:42 AM

I'd like to see some proof and links outside of Polish newspaper.

Andrew NDB 07-03-2023 02:46 AM

This is a thing, and Bill Gates has said he's up to about the same thing. Why not? In my eyes we should be encouraging this stuff. Absolutely, we need to innovate our way out of climate change, not give ourselves cement boots and jump into the lake. i.e., let's all get electric cars on grids that can't even support the current electrical infrastructure now, let alone the damages done by the strip-mining needed to achieve this for batteries that appear to outweigh the benefits. If we're not limiting the number of burping, farting people, that's fine, but we have to start looking at stuff like this at a certain point.

Cowabung-Gal 07-03-2023 09:44 AM

Why are these people so obsessed with climate change?? Why not use the money to fund cancer research centers so that Biden could in fact “cure cancer” like he promised to if he got elected? Oh that’s right: the goal is to reduce the population, not increase it. Save Mother Earth but screw humanity, right? And even they won’t give up their filthy habits like flying in private jets.

Sumac 07-03-2023 06:14 PM

Still waiting for links and sources outside of some Polish newspaper.

Or could it be anti-left people are as delusional as their left counterparts and ready to believe in any ******** nonsense? Wait to go "defenders of reason and logic"!

Andrew NDB 07-03-2023 07:04 PM

This isn't a conspiracy or anything. This is a thing that we already knew is being looked into.

https://time.com/6258126/solar-geoen...-george-soros/

ChosenOne 07-03-2023 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1967097)
This isn't a conspiracy or anything. This is a thing that we already knew is being looked into.

https://time.com/6258126/solar-geoen...-george-soros/

You're a better man than I am, I just ignored the obvious troll.

Sumac 07-04-2023 05:05 AM

Thanks, Andrew.
Can't say I am surprised. Most likely it will end up in a total disaster.

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1967107)
You're a better man than I am, I just ignored the obvious troll.

Imagine being so stupid, that you call someone a troll for a simple and understandable request of a source.

ChosenOne 07-04-2023 06:39 AM

To the Conspiracymobile, away!

The Deadman 07-06-2023 10:17 AM

Blocking out the Sun wont reverse climate change....itll just make things worse. The Earth needs the Sun to survive....

IMJ 07-06-2023 04:34 PM

Isn't it weird how every action by the left has these sort of strange ties to things that align to "hell on Earth"?

I mean look, I'm not even remotely deeply religious, okay? But I don't have to be to see these strange parallels constantly popping up from the left agenda that always involve these "hell on Earth" paradigms.

Appealing to the peasant complainers for their sense of justice
Increased government control
Increased, forced uniformity
Embracing counter-nature paradigms like warped sex patterns and twisted "gender" ideology
Oh hey, by the way, let's block out the sun....

Each and every one under arguments of "improvement" that appeal to who? The Earth's population of peasant-thinkers. And once again I'm pointing out a pattern that will inevitably be filtered through much of the Technodrome forums through a strawman lens instead of pattern recognition.

Splinter the boss 07-07-2023 11:12 AM

This is so wrong on so many levels. But I doubt that this will ever come to fruition, but if so, then the aftermath will be less than desirable. That, I know certainly.

Andrew NDB 07-07-2023 11:20 AM

Well, let's be clear here. It's not BLOCKing the sun, they're looking to mildly filter the sun. Like, think some very mild sunglasses. The idea is to negate the impact (or relevance, really) of co2 emissions by just plain lessening the impact of the sun.

ChosenOne 07-07-2023 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1967343)
Well, let's be clear here. It's not BLOCKing the sun, they're looking to mildly filter the sun. Like, think some very mild sunglasses. The idea is to negate the impact (or relevance, really) of co2 emissions by just plain lessening the impact of the sun.

Why not just plant more trees? Surely it would be easier, cheaper and just overall be a better look.

Splinter the boss 07-07-2023 01:43 PM

Absolutely the better idea, rather than messing with something we have no clue whatsoever what its impacts might be. The heat coming from the sun’s rays isn't the source of the problem, what we're doing on earth is the real issue.

Andrew NDB 07-07-2023 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1967352)
Why not just plant more trees? Surely it would be easier, cheaper and just overall be a better look.

There isn't, like, a surplus of trees to plant. They plant the trees they have to plant. There isn't extras not being planted and going to waste because people don't want to plant trees.

ChosenOne 07-07-2023 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1967374)
There isn't, like, a surplus of trees to plant. They plant the trees they have to plant. There isn't extras not being planted and going to waste because people don't want to plant trees.

There are if you seed or propagate them. Source: am a bonsai/gardening enthusiast who has successfully propagated several trees. It's not even that hard to do.

IMJ 07-07-2023 03:23 PM

Exactly. Rather than changing our building codes to state that all national and state highways need a center partition lined with trees, they entertain discussing the plot of Highlander 2.

Coola Yagami 07-07-2023 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1967374)
There isn't, like, a surplus of trees to plant. They plant the trees they have to plant. There isn't extras not being planted and going to waste because people don't want to plant trees.

Putting out those forest fires would be a good start....

Splinter the boss 07-08-2023 12:05 PM

That's how most people think, unfortunately, for ex most people would rather entertain the idea of becoming a multi-planetary species, hence the look for other earth-like planets rather than fixing what we already have here, the right way.

Metalwolf 07-08-2023 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Splinter the boss (Post 1967370)
Absolutely the better idea, rather than messing with something we have no clue whatsoever what its impacts might be. The heat coming from the sun’s rays isn't the source of the problem, what we're doing on earth is the real issue.

Exactly. It's the denial of reality and a refusal to attempt or try better solutions so there is the drastic attempt at a 'solution' you only saw villains try in comic books. Rather then admit our lifestyles and need for instant gratification and convenience are the drivers of the problems and something that needs to change. OK, fossil fuels are fueling climate change, but so is our desire to digitize and electrify everything which is a huge energy hog because it not only still relies on electricity generation by coal and oil, but also mining for rare minerals and metals (which tends to be from dodgy countries that like to use a lot of coal and oil with mining.)

As an example, you go on reddit on one of the sustainability subreddits and they're all for sustainability... until it is suggested by someone that increasing digitalization is also part of the problem. (That person gets downvoted.) Emissions were less when many things were more unconnected and computers were there but were not as dominant in life. People want to save the planet until it interferes with their soft padded lifestyle. Then they go for ridiculous things like blocking out the sun rather then give up comfort, even when it is obvious it is just as part of the problem.

Edited.

Sumac 07-08-2023 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Metalwolf (Post 1967489)
Exactly. It's the denial of reality and a refusal to attempt or try better solutions so there is the drastic attempt at a 'solution' you only saw villains try in comic books. Rather then admit our lifestyles and need for instant gratification and convenience are the drivers of the problems and something that needs to change. OK, fossil fuels are fueling climate change, but so is our desire to digitize and electrify everything which is a huge energy hog because it not only still relies on electricity generation by coal and oil, but also mining for rare minerals and metals (which tends to be from dodgy countries that like to use a lot of coal and oil with mining.)

As an example, you go on reddit on one of the sustainability subreddits and they're all for sustainability... until it is suggested by someone that increasing digitalization is also part of the problem. (That person gets downvoted.) Emissions were less when many things were more unconnected and computers were there but were not as dominant in life. People want to save the planet until it interferes with their soft padded lifestyle. Then they go for ridiculous things like blocking out the sun rather then give up comfort, even when it is obvious it is just as part of the problem.

Ah, yes, living in a pit, eating bugs, having electricity 2 hours per day, no fresh water or food. But the planet is safe! YAY! :P

Splinter the boss 07-08-2023 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metalwolf (Post 1967489)
Exactly. It's the denial of reality and a refusal to attempt or try better solutions so there is the drastic attempt at a 'solution' you only saw villains try in comic books. Rather then admit our lifestyles and need for instant gratification and convenience are the drivers of the problems and something that needs to change. OK, fossil fuels are fueling climate change, but so is our desire to digitize and electrify everything which is a huge energy hog because it not only still relies on electricity generation by coal and oil, but also mining for rare minerals and metals (which tends to be from dodgy countries that like to use a lot of coal and oil with mining.)

As an example, you go on reddit on one of the sustainability subreddits and they're all for sustainability... until it is suggested by someone that increasing digitalization is also part of the problem. (That person gets downvoted.) Emissions were less when many things were more unconnected and computers were there but were not as dominant in life. People want to save the planet until it interferes with their soft padded lifestyle. Then they go for ridiculous things like blocking out the sun rather then give up comfort, even when it is obvious it is just as part of the problem.

Edited.

Couldn't have said it better, you were on point

Splinter the boss 07-08-2023 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1967493)
Ah, yes, living in a pit, eating bugs, having electricity 2 hours per day, no fresh water or food. But the planet is safe! YAY! :P

That's so not what we are saying lol. No one wants to go back to the cave times, but we are pretending the solutions are way out there, and grandiose, and just out of comic books and that we need to play God, rather than look
At our way of life and realize we are part of the problem. Sun has existed for couple billion years, it was never the problem

Dpooly84 07-09-2023 12:14 AM

This is the most retarded thing I've ever heard. This is literally a generic Bond villain plan. Biden needs to be locked up he has committed treason and should be publicly executed next to his treasonous ass son.

Dpooly84 07-09-2023 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dpooly84 (Post 1967506)
This is the most retarded thing I've ever heard. This is literally a generic Bond villain plan. Biden needs to be locked up he has committed treason and should be publicly executed next to his treasonous ass son.

Correction his Crack head treasonous ass son!

oldmanwinters 07-09-2023 12:23 AM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnFjAkAs_q4

Dpooly84 07-09-2023 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1967508)

Lol my son loves this show we even got him a baby Sinclair, this episode is crazy

Mayhem 07-09-2023 09:07 AM

I watched Dinosaurs from start to end here (NOT THE MAMA!!!) and when that final episode aired, I was like wow, that's harsh... harsh but true in a way.

Sumac 07-09-2023 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Splinter the boss (Post 1967501)
That's so not what we are saying lol.

That is not some of the "greens" state.
And in general, its hard to see your statements in a different light.

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Originally Posted by Splinter the boss (Post 1967501)
No one wants to go back to the cave times, but we are pretending the solutions are way out there, and grandiose, and just out of comic books and that we need to play God, rather than look

News at 11 - people always played gods.
So far it worked for us, warts and all. There is a little doubt that humanity will persevere through its ingenuity and technological progress, unless it will go with naysayers, luddites and fear-mongers, who are perpetually scared that next big thing "gonna kill us all".

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Originally Posted by Splinter the boss (Post 1967501)
Sun has existed for couple billion years, it was never the problem

I beg to differ: have you heard of sun radiation? Solar cycles?
Also, it is not about sun. Its like the least of our problems. It is more about climate, except it always had been changing throughout the years, even before humans. What are multiple extinctions in the history of Earth?

Splinter the boss 07-15-2023 09:23 PM

Agree to disagree, but there’s no way I’m ever going to believe that, reducing the potency of the suns rays over our planet is a solution or will ever be a solution that is permanent, safe and without consequences to things such as other life on our planet, not just smart bipedals, but entire ecosystems. Everything on this earth is interrelated and disrupting a single factor such as the suns heat, no way this isn’t deadly.


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