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Dpooly84 07-29-2023 08:09 PM

US American politics
 
I'm seeing allot of backlash in Democratic run cities, New York, Chicago, Oakland/San Fran, Portland and Seattle. Don't complain about the illegals and rampant crime and drug use, when this is exactly what you voted for. You listened to flowery words that sounded nice but had no basis in reality. My how these progressive cities are flourishing... I guess if you like zombie junkies, hypodermic needles, and piles off human feces everywhere, enjoy the chaos you voted for.

Monty Mole 07-29-2023 08:22 PM

You that Trump worshiping guy?

Dpooly84 07-29-2023 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Monty Mole (Post 1969989)
You that Trump worshiping guy?

Lol that's your response? You can't dispute any of the facts, just jump to Trump? You one of those, dems? Biden lie sucker lol

Dpooly84 07-29-2023 09:14 PM

I'm watching these videos of African American women in NY decimating Eric Adams at town halls, the same in Chicago with Brandon Johnson. And videos of African American business owners in Oakland crying for help, and it's all f'n sad. The really sad part is African American women vote Democrat 95% of the time. Do people know that the Republican party was started to fight the democrats who supported slavery? The confederacy were democrats, the republic fought to free slaves. Do you know who started the kkk? It was the democrats, these are facts; check them.

Dpooly84 07-29-2023 09:27 PM

It's crazy how freely Joe bidens Crack head son hunter uses the n word when his father said in 77, and I QUOTE "Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point. We have got to make some move on this." This was in response to desegregation. Then in 2019 told a black man to his face, that he wasn't black if he don't vote for him. An episode of the breakfast club.

FredWolfLeonardo 07-29-2023 09:41 PM

I don't disagree that the Democrats are full of problems, but I think that the Republicians aren't much better. I see them as being from the same rotten foundation.

Dpooly84 07-29-2023 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1970003)
I don't disagree that the Democrats are full of problems, but I think that the Republicians aren't much better. I see them as being from the same rotten foundation.

That's fair, I'm pretty in the middle but the left is constantly attacked with lies and it's bs. The right is the obviously the racist side.

FredWolfLeonardo 07-29-2023 10:07 PM

I often feel that the Democrat and Republician parties aren't as divided on many issues as they claim to be, and many of them use the tactics of Divide and Conquer to keep the people in line while elite politicians reap the benefits.

That being said, I do believe that voting is important, but who to vote for is dependent on a variety of factors. I currently align more with the Republician Party because I see the Democrats as being more subservient to the ideology of Cultural Marxism, but unfortunately the Republician Party has its fair share of Communist Sympathisers.

Dpooly84 07-30-2023 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1970008)
I often feel that the Democrat and Republician parties aren't as divided on many issues as they claim to be, and many of them use the tactics of Divide and Conquer to keep the people in line while elite politicians reap the benefits.

That being said, I do believe that voting is important, but who to vote for is dependent on a variety of factors. I currently align more with the Republician Party because I see the Democrats as being more subservient to the ideology of Cultural Marxism, but unfortunately the Republician Party has its fair share of Communist Sympathisers.

You're response shows that you already known what I'm talking about. Just know who you're voting for.

Andrew NDB 07-30-2023 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1970003)
I don't disagree that the Democrats are full of problems, but I think that the Republicians aren't much better. I see them as being from the same rotten foundation.

Of course. But it's not the Republicans that want to trans the children, let them mutilate their genitals and sterilize themselves while having the schools encourage this and hide it from the parents, put drag queens in classrooms, open borders, and going after both free speech and the 2nd amendment. At worst, you could say the Republicans are big on abortion restrictions, a lot of them are Christian, and they don't believe the world will end in 10 years if we don't rely on solar and wind (and they don't deny climate change, they just believe we can innovate our way around it while the tech is developed to directly combat it if need be). So what?

I do think striking down Roe V. Wade was a bad move for them, though. They were on a nice path until that. They should have just let it go, even if it was a super flimsy decision that didn't hold any water.

Dpooly84 07-30-2023 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1970020)
Of course. But it's not the Republicans that want to trans the children, let them mutilate their genitals and sterilize themselves while having the schools encourage this and hide it from the parents, put drag queens in classrooms, open borders, and going after both free speech and the 2nd amendment. At worst, you could say the Republicans are big on abortion restrictions, a lot of them are Christian, and they don't believe the world will end in 10 years if we don't rely on solar and wind (and they don't deny climate change, they just believe we can innovate our way around it while the tech is developed to directly combat it if need be). So what?

I do think striking down Roe V. Wade was a bad move for them, though. They were on a nice path until that. They should have just let it go, even if it was a super flimsy decision that didn't hold any water.

Yo I'm right there with you, I don't agree with abortions. But I also feel like I have no right in telling a woman what she can do with her body. That's not the hill I'm willing to die on. There's clear medical reasons why some women would need a abortion

Andrew NDB 07-30-2023 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dpooly84 (Post 1970023)
Yo I'm right there with you, I don't agree with abortions.

I didn't say that I disagree with abortions. I'm fine with them. If there is to be strict legislature that prohibits them after 3-4 months, I'm good with that, but abortions themselves are fine* beyond that. I'd even have them mandated in certain cases. I just think for Republicans and the kind of move we need to see, they should have let the Roe V Wade easy win go. They grossly underestimated the blowback.

* Not fine, in that it's really ending a life, but fine in that they're available. And it shouldn't be a trivial thing and certainly not a thing that's celebrated. Because that's some dark sh** right there. And how can we pretend it's not a life, but charge someone with two counts of murder if someone shoots a pregnant woman?

Dpooly84 07-30-2023 11:16 PM

It's pretty funny how many leftis this board has but nobody wants to dispute these facts? Why is that? Let's go hit me with some facts please!

ChosenOne 07-31-2023 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dpooly84 (Post 1970134)
It's pretty funny how many leftis this board has but nobody wants to dispute these facts? Why is that? Let's go hit me with some facts please!

As I'm sure you know, if leftists could parse facts from propaganda they wouldn't be leftists.

Andrew NDB 07-31-2023 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChosenOne (Post 1970156)
As I'm sure you know, if leftists could parse facts from propaganda they wouldn't be leftists.

It's much easier to comprehend when you understand that this is a religion to them.

Sumac 07-31-2023 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpooly84 (Post 1970134)
It's pretty funny how many leftis this board has but nobody wants to dispute these facts? Why is that? Let's go hit me with some facts please!

They can not handle places which are not echo chambers.

Andrew NDB 07-31-2023 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sumac (Post 1970201)
They can not handle places which are not echo chambers.

Their churches, basically.

Cowabung-Gal 07-31-2023 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1970203)
Their churches, basically.

“Wokeness is not a religion!”

Yes, it is. It’s a cult.

robertfiduciary 07-31-2023 08:17 PM

Oi. The dumbest people.

Anyway, here's a real interesting article which discusses how the majority of gun deaths actually take place in rural areas. NOT cities.

/https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462

And let's just be completely honest here:

You're not "seeing a lot" (which is how you spell that word, btw) of anything in those cities. In the past two years, I've been to New York and Chicago. Have you? Or have you been "seeing a lot" of that on television? You know, on that "news" channel you all pretend that you don't watch.

(And, to be perfectly clear: even if you *don't* actually watch Fox "News," guess what? Whatever "news" source you're digesting probably... gets... their... information... from... Fox... "News").

So, yeah. Please tell everyone which of those cities you've been to. Chicago has problems, sure. All places do! But isn't it weird, just isn't it odd, how all the cities always cited by these "news" stories have predominately non-white people in them?

And isn't it weird, too, how Fox "News" caters to... oh, yeah. White people?

Probably just a coincidence. Probably nothing to notice at all.

I'd sure be interested in reading about more things you're "seeing allot" of, though. Maybe next time you could cite a source, like I did? It'll make you a hair more credible. Which shouldn't be hard.

Because right now, you're not credible at all.

Dpooly84 07-31-2023 09:15 PM

Nice try lol. You're defense to my facts is to jump to "racism", and fox News. What does that have to do with anything?

See the funny thing is I don't need to go to Chicago or New York to know what's going on. We have this little thing called the internet and some people like myself use it to see what's happens all over. Google Chicago's residents angry over illegal immigration, you'll see news clips from all your precious news channels covering the town halls where the residents are condemning thier democratic leaders. Give it a gogg you dingbat.

Then after that Google mayor Eric Adams call a holocaust survivor a slave owner for daring to point her finger at him.

Oh Google Chicago's young scholars destroy a 7-11, that's a fresh one.

Or you could Google Oakland town hall meetings.

Are you just being facetious or do you not know how the internet works? You don't need fox news to tell you how well these cities are doing. Also you don't need to visit them either. I can tell you about Pheonix though, I first visited phoenix 8 years ago and I loved the city it was so beautiful. Then the lock down happened, and my next visit nearly brought me to tears. The whole area surrounding downtown area is now a shanty town. It looks like a third world country with tents and make shift huts. This is America, we're not supposed to be living like this. And democrats just want it to get worse, so they can stay in power. It's f'n
Munchausen by proxy. Eat this poison so I can make you better.

Cowabung-Gal 07-31-2023 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by robertfiduciary (Post 1970244)
You're not "seeing a lot" (which is how you spell that word, btw) of anything in those cities. In the past two years, I've been to New York and Chicago.

But you don’t actually live in either of those places, do you? In all honestly, would you move there? Probably not. Even New Yorkers hate New York City, especially now. People are moving into rural areas in droves because of the ridiculous high cost of living, violent atmosphere, and totalitarian blue policies that they have to endure in the city.

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Originally Posted by robertfiduciary (Post 1970244)
(And, to be perfectly clear: even if you *don't* actually watch Fox "News," guess what? Whatever "news" source you're digesting probably... gets... their... information... from... Fox... "News").

So what’s your beacon of truth? CNN? MSNBC? BuzzFeed? The Mary Sue?

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Originally Posted by robertfiduciary (Post 1970244)
So, yeah. Please tell everyone which of those cities you've been to.

Well, neither, but years ago my family traveled to Washington D.C for vacation and we decided to ride in the Metro. It was jam-packed in the train and some homeless idiot tried to bring his bike in with him, even though there was a sign that clearly said “No Bikes Allowed”. Nobody would move to let him in, nor would they say anything to him. Finally my Southern Dad who never took bs from anybody told him that what he was doing was wrong, and he was the only one in the whole crowd who spoke up. Finally the guy managed to squeeze in with his bike and during the whole ride he yelled incoherently in my Dad’s face. I remember him saying that he spent the night in the train. That was my first taste of city life.

My point? In the city, you’re either a compliant, silent sheep or a you’re a lawless thug, and if you do have a noble bone in your body and decide to be the hero, you get punished for it. That’s why people will just stand by and watch as someone gets r*ped in the subway rather than help them, and why they’ll let thieves just walk out of a store with the stolen items in their hands. The shoplifting situation in Chicago is so bad that if you need to buy a small jar of Vaseline at Walgreens, it’s locked up behind glass and you need an employee to come open it with a key. Where I live, we only do that for valuable vintage items at flea markets.

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Originally Posted by robertfiduciary (Post 1970244)
But isn't it weird, just isn't it odd, how all the cities always cited by these "news" stories have predominately non-white people in them?

Um, the largest ethnic groups in both Chicago and New York are white.

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Originally Posted by robertfiduciary (Post 1970244)
I'd sure be interested in reading about more things you're "seeing allot" of, though. Maybe next time you could cite a source, like I did? It'll make you a hair more credible. Which shouldn't be hard.

Because right now, you're not credible at all.

You cited NBC. That discredits you already

robertfiduciary 07-31-2023 09:43 PM

And you cited... nothing. I mean, you cited anecdotal experience, which does not make up any other person's reality than your own.

Not a single quote. Not a single article link. So weird! I wonder why that is.

And I actually went to NYU for a year. I love New York City, and would move back there in a heartbeat (if I still had the money).

I love Chicago, too. Todd and I have talked about moving there often. The food! The culture! The comedy clubs! It's a beautiful place.

And both my siblings live in Washington D.C. It's lovely, too. I've spent more than my fair share of time on the Metro (Shout-out, Orange Line!). Did you know, long ago, that the Metro used to be so clean that they used it's tunnels for shots in movies when people go to heaven?

You folks remind me of one of my favorite quotes. It's from Sophocles, of all people.

"To him who is in fear, everything rustles."

So, yeah. Keep believing whatever you believe. I try to be kind to the world, and, for the most part, the world has been incredibly kind to me. Maybe there's a lesson there. Maybe not.

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Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal (Post 970249)
You cited NBC. That discredits you already.


Cowabung-Gal 07-31-2023 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by robertfiduciary (Post 1970250)
And you cited... nothing. I mean, you cited anecdotal experience, which does not make up any other person's reality than your own.

Not a single quote. Not a single article link. So weird! I wonder why that is.

Doesn’t matter what article I could show you. You’ve already made up your mind that I’m a Faux Newz viewer because I don’t buy into NBC’s propagandist crap:

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Originally Posted by robertfiduciary (Post 1970244)
(And, to be perfectly clear: even if you *don't* actually watch Fox "News," guess what? Whatever "news" source you're digesting probably... gets... their... information... from... Fox... "News"


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Originally Posted by robertfiduciary (Post 1970250)
And I actually went to NYU for a year. I love New York City, and would move back there in a heartbeat (if I still had the money).

But you can’t afford to go back, can you? Thanks to Bidenflation.

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Originally Posted by robertfiduciary (Post 1970250)
I love Chicago, too. Todd and I have talked about moving there often. The food! The culture! The comedy clubs! It's a beautiful place.

Beautiful but deadly. Hope you don’t plan to have a family there.

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Originally Posted by robertfiduciary (Post 1970250)
And both my siblings live in Washington D.C. It's lovely, too. I've spent more than my fair share of time on the Metro (Shout-out, Orange Line!). Did you know, long ago, that the Metro used to be so clean that they used it's tunnels for shots in movies when people go to heaven?

Yeah…like fifty years ago. Now though? You have dirty hobos screaming like demons in your face.

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Originally Posted by robertfiduciary (Post 1970250)
You folks remind me of one of my favorite quotes. It's from Sophocles, of all people.

"To him who is in fear, everything rustles.".

You like quotes, huh? Well here’s one, from Plato.

“Ignorance, the root and stem of every evil”

Dpooly84 07-31-2023 10:33 PM

Lol I can't help but notice you didn't respond to my facts. I don't need to post a link a simple Google search will prove me correct. I can also confirm the state of D.C. because my brother works at the Pentagon, my black brother BTW, is disgusted by the state of the capital.

*edit* well said Gal

Cowabung-Gal 07-31-2023 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpooly84 (Post 1970254)
I can also confirm the state of D.C. because my brother works at the Pentagon, my black brother BTW, is disgusted by the state of the capital.

Your brother works at the Pentagon? His salary must be crazy high.

Dpooly84 07-31-2023 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal (Post 1970256)
Your brother works at the Pentagon? His salary must be crazy high.

He's in the Army so I'm not sure, but he and his family do crazy vacations lol. He is super lucky he got himself stationed in Key West and Germany in the past. His kids have gotten to experience so much that we never could have dreamed of at thier ages.

Dpooly84 07-31-2023 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by robertfiduciary (Post 1970250)

I love Chicago, too. Todd and I have talked about moving there often. The food! The culture! The comedy clubs! It's a beautiful place.

Brother if you honestly wanna move to Illinois I would highly suggest a city/town 30 to 40 mins away from Chicago. The housing will be cheaper and you and your husband won't have to deal with as much hostility.

*edit* Chicago has excellent comedy clubs

IMJ 08-01-2023 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dpooly84 (Post 1970262)
Brother if you honestly wanna move to Illinois I would highly suggest a city/town 30 to 40 mins away from Chicago. The housing will be cheaper and you and your husband won't have to deal with as much hostility.

*edit* Chicago has excellent comedy clubs

We were actually just at Zanies on North Wells a few weeks back. It reminded me of Mother Hubbard's on Wacker - a place where they crammed an extra building into what used to be an alley in between two other buildings. Classic Chicago-style right there.

But to your other point there, yeah I agree completely. Chicago is so well connected by highways that you could live as far out as Aurora and getting to the city via 88 is really no big deal.

Bahamut810 08-01-2023 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by robertfiduciary (Post 1970244)
Oi. The dumbest people.

Anyway, here's a real interesting article which discusses how the majority of gun deaths actually take place in rural areas. NOT cities.

/https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-gun-death-rates-lower-cities-than-rural-counties-rcna81462

I dont think this says what you are wanting it to say. Go read it. Everyone else is talking about gun violence and crime. You cite this that says there is more 'gun violence" because of suicides which Rural america always has had more of. Considering the conditions of the pandemic and all that I can see why considering how widespread rural america can be. Interesting quote:

"From 2011 to 2020, the most rural counties had a 46% lower rate of gun homicide deaths than the most urban counties but a 76% higher rate of gun suicide deaths, according to Reeping’s analysis."

Can you cite a source that supports your view that has something to do with your claim?

Mayhem 08-02-2023 02:06 AM

The largest demographic of gun death in the US has always been suicide, unsurprisingly.

Andrew NDB 08-02-2023 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mayhem (Post 1970449)
The largest demographic of gun death in the US has always been suicide, unsurprisingly.

Maybe true, and they always make sure and remove any kind of gang related stuff from these figures.

Sumac 08-02-2023 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by robertfiduciary (Post 1970244)
Oi. The dumbest people.

What a way to start a conversation.

Shows off your intelligence and manners and upbringing. Also, proves that lefties are cultish parasites, hating on anyone who doesn't worship them.

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Originally Posted by robertfiduciary (Post 1970250)
So, yeah. Keep believing whatever you believe. I try to be kind to the world, and, for the most part, the world has been incredibly kind to me. Maybe there's a lesson there. Maybe not.

You are not kind, if you behave this way.
You are arrogant and stupid.
Your whole posturing just tells that you are the one in fear. Otherwise there won't be necessity to scream and insult people who did nothing to you, but I guess you are such a stable unafraid person, that it is your sacred duty to show it to everyone. :lol:



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Originally Posted by Bahamut810 (Post 1970325)
I dont think this says what you are wanting it to say.

It is so typical of lefties - put an article as prove of their words, which in reality has nothing to do with anything. They brains are not developed enough to understand past the title.

Barkworm 08-02-2023 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal (Post 1970249)
You cited NBC. That discredits you already

Yes, instead cite the Youtube videos Cowabung-Gal watches all day, they seem to be the absolute height of journalism.

Mayhem 08-02-2023 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1970451)
Maybe true, and they always make sure and remove any kind of gang related stuff from these figures.

Not in the figures I've seen online, such as the FBI website. What is perhaps not that surprising is that nearly half of all murders are comitted by someone known to the victim.

Dpooly84 08-04-2023 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkworm (Post 1970462)
Yes, instead cite the Youtube videos Cowabung-Gal watches all day, they seem to be the absolute height of journalism.

You can find live action town halls on YouTube you'll never find anything on a nbc/cbs/CNN or any other "news" channel that's not opinionated, trying to tell you what you're seeing.

The funniest lie ever told... mostly peaceful protests!

Cowabung-Gal 09-23-2023 10:11 AM

Chicago is considering government-run grocery stores due to the theft problem causing many stores to close down




IMJ 09-23-2023 11:10 AM

Brandon Johnson. :lol:

Sumac 09-23-2023 12:53 PM

Welcome to promised paradise of socialism.
I hope you like long rows of people and deficit.

No matter how commie trash will try to tell its all, because, of "capitalism".

IMJ 09-23-2023 01:52 PM

I've seen people here throw the word "echochamber" around on these forums like it was their best GRE word of the month. But Chicago is a true "echochamber". It's become a hub for the perception-of-life narrative by some residents, even to the point where these people make every excuse for the very behavior that got them there in the first place.

Coola Yagami 09-23-2023 05:10 PM

Being born and semi-raised in Chicago (most of my more formative years were in Mexico), I am glad that I not only moved out of there, but when it came time to return to the US, I had other options and didn't just go back.

My god that place is a hellhole.


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