Jurassic World 4
 

wtf... they're actually making another one? Why? Dominion was like the worst fu**ing thing ever.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/koepp-s...urassic-world/

Yeah JWD wasnt the worst thing ever, lol.

I dunno. It had so much potential and it seemed like a thing very difficult, if not impossible to screw up. They screwed up. I don't remember coming out of a movie theater that upset for a good long while.

What didn't you like about it?

Universal has too much money invested in the Jurassic IP in general to not make another movie, honestly.

Their theme parks revolve around ET, Jaws, Back to the Future, and Jurassic Park/World. And those first three aren't making any more movies.

The JP Franchise should have ended after JP3

JP franchise should have never been a franchise in the first place.
Only JP1 is a legitimately good movie.

All sequels are lacking something which made first movie special.

Well the original writer is on board, some sites are already calling it a reboot and a new beginning but I think it'll be a continuation with a new cast and not a remake/reboot. Jurassic Park 7 though it'll likely feel a lot more like the superhero like Jurassic World movies.

The original writer is back. I'd hope for a remake that is faithful to the book but that would be R rated so it's not happening. I'd also prefer a prequel or if it took place between the trilogies but it also doesn't seem likely. I mean in a world where dinosaurs exist? Ugh, I hate that idea. The only way it can work is if they make it in a small setting for survival, none of this superhero end of the world stuff again. I think Jurassic World 2 and 3 had a lot of ways of messing things up big time, so I actually like that they somehow avoided the Jurassic World War thing the first JW movie implied. Still I prefer Jurassic Park in a smaller setting with smaller stakes, more personal..
The sequels are fun dinosaur movies I don't mind more, but yeah nothing can touch the first movie since it tells the whole story in one movie, no need for more. No sequel could ever come near it. But I'd still prefer a higher quality dinosaur movie over nothing.

How was it impossible to screw up? What did you expect from the movie?

I was extremely worried for JW3, JW1 hinted at Jurassic War, and luckily JW2 avoided it but the ending left it pretty much for the final movie and yet the final movie was able to not do this horrible concept. It also brought back the original actors and gave them a reason as to why they would be together again. It made no sense for these characters to ever team up again for something and yet the movie did it in a way that didn't feel awful. I mean it's still unrealistic but so were any scenes with Chris Pratt surviving dinosaurs in the trilogy so I was ok with it. I dunno I had really low expectations because of all the ways they could mess it up and somehow they kept it all in a "smaller scale" by it taking place in biosyn's lair instead of some world war plot with dinosaurs.

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I mean I like all the movies because they're fun dino action. my ranking:

JP1: A true classic I would not feel embarrased to recommend.
JW1: great requel, superhero fight at the end felt unecessary. Still my fav. sequel
JP3: Simple short story but because of that it works, didn't try to be more.
JW2FK: Love the mansion setting so much that I forgive the superhero fight at the end and the ending.
JW3D: Not doing Jurassic World War was a win. Giving somewhat believable reasons for returning cast. I can't hate it. Fun dino action.
JP2TLW:It's missing something, the setting and idea is good, it just lacked execution.
There isn't much competition, outside of Jurassic it's low budget b-movies. 65 was not good. So I stand that they're fun dino movies. They will never be classics like the original.
Sadly Crichton would've never written a third novel even if he were still alive. Not that it means anything since the studios decide what the movie will be about but its the original writer of the first movie.

Michael Crichton is dead.

Here's a little problem...

I liked all the World movies. I think Lost World and Part 3 were the weakest. So I’m excited to see what’s next. I knew they’d do another one eventually. Just surprised it’s this soon.

Nah, they found his blood in a mosquito in fossilised amber.

They got an idea from a movie.

I still haven't seen the last one. I thought the first Chris Pratt movie was really good actually. Not a fan though when the dinosaurs are brought into the city.

Adam Driver's 65 was actually pretty entertaining. Not super good or anything, but at least it was a new take on the dinosaur thing.

I liked the first Jurassic World too, Fallen Kingdom was like watching the best cutscenes of a really bad video game though

Yeah Fallen Kingdom was terrible and Dominion was somehow even worse. They need to let this franchise go extinct for a while.

Honestly I'd probably rate them in the exact order they came out, from best to worst. And JW1 is just a requel, so low points there.

Everything about it. And I wasn't super looking forward to it but I fully expected a "good time at the movies," at the very least, given the "stuffed" cast and old favorites and all. What could go wrong? Turns out a lot. It's just like the worst screenplay imaginable. There should be classes taught about how to avoid everything they did here. There are no discernible character arcs or even any reason for being there for the O.G. cast, at least in any ways that pay off. The clone melodrama is nonsense. The locusts sideplot was a big waste. Literal black Han Solo woman with her own Millennium Falcon exists in the movie just to mock the audience, really. Just bad! Appallingly bad. If you think Trevorrow would have saved the Star Wars sequel trilogy you need to get your head checked.

"Dinosaurs are loose everywhere in the world, and Grant, Ellie and Malcolm must team up with the Owen, Claire and Maisie!" Like, stop right there. That's great! That's what we've been waiting for. It writes itself. Any hack writer off the street statistically has about a 99% better chance of writing something more satisfying in that regard than what we got. Like, this took some doing to get it as bad as it is. Somehow it's, let's add Mission: Impossible stuff with bio-engineered locusts, shadowy diabolical figures and conspiracies and melodrama and garbage when it needed absolutely NONE of that stuff.

He didn't even want to write The Lost World, but did from the copious amount of pressure for a sequel.

I liked the first Jurassic world, hated the second, gave up on third after about 10 minutes. Can only imagine how bad the next will be.

I actually like all 3 of the JP movies.:):P

The instant they sailed away from the island on the vessel the movie turned to crap.

I don’t remember if I said this before but those criticizing Dominion saying it should have just been about dinosaurs causing trouble everywhere...that would NOT have worked. It seems like it would but it wouldn’t.

Part of the point was that dinosaurs are now common place living among us. It starts with them rescuing one and they quickly admit it’s not possible to keep that up. So catching them or stopping them all could not be a storyline.

There had to be a cohesive plot that the new and original characters could be a part of. Rescue Maisie/stop Dodgson is actually a good way for them to travel around with dinosaurs getting in the way. They’re not the “villain” anymore they’re the obstacle.

If it was just about dinosaurs wrecking havoc it would go nowhere. There’d be encounters and attacks anywhere. This could work for a tv series with self contained episodes but a main cast needs a purpose to go do something.

#1, there weren't enough dinosaurs in that room ready to escape at the end of "Fallen Kingdom" to make dinosaurs "commonplace" among us. So that's already a stupid premise off the bat. But whatever, here we are anyway.

#2, sure it could've worked. Forget about bio-engineered locust conspiracies and the other garbage. Just off the top of my head, T-rexes and other dinosaurs are drawn to a particular part of the globe because of "perfect" weather conditions, but it happens to be an oil town with a lot of development in it. A company brings in Grant, Ellie, etc., to brainstorm how to get them all out "legally," while a third party comes in to just try and kill the dinosaurs when they "fail."

But removing them from 1 place is basically Fallen Kingdom again.

I agree it does not seem like enough dinosaurs for them to be common place yet but that’s the way it’s presented. Saving 1 town/city would not accomplish anything. What about the rest of the dinosaurs out there? Even in real life we can’t just remove an entire species from one part of the globe...and we don’t have anything as big as a T-Rex.

I liked JW well enough the first time. Second time, significantly less so, but mostly due to what I felt was questionable acting. I liked the plot & execution of most things well enough in both instances.

JW 2, I pretty much hated outright. The direction/plot, the new characters, the acting, it really challenged my ability to suspend disbelief, which is really saying a lot considering the previous four films. Absolutely lost me from the point of killing off the original Brontosaurus or whatever. Then the Raptors doing martial arts & stuff, ridiculous. Some of the concepts could've been cool I guess but it was just away too dumb & Michael Bay-ish for me.

JW I liked a lot. It made up for elements of its predecessors I didn't care for, felt a bit more grounded/realistic, nice to have the return of those previous characters, all done justice (IMO). Not the most interesting or ground-breaking stuff but thoroughly entertaining & competantly done.

But like, eh, I'm not exactly pining for more. I love the original trilogy & like the new one, but they're not gonna top what came before & I can't think of too many ways of building upon it that would be necessary or intriguing. I'll still peep it, though. Dinosaurs.

this is true, but seeing as Michael Crichton wrote two books, hense more movies i guess, i dunno lol

this is true. but who would want more ET or Jaws movies? out of all of them, only BTTF and JP are worthy of more movies imo. ET never left it open for a sequel, and there's too many Jaws movies

He wrote a second book only after success of the movie. Or rather he was practically bullied into it. So, whether it counts or not is anyone's guess.

Solution: a crossover sequel to both Jaws and E.T. :lol:

oh i wasn't aware the second book came after, i thiought both were done before the movies, hense why almost nothing in either book is in the movies

ET need bigger boat :lol:

It's why Dr. Malcolm inexplicably came back to life in the second book. He knew he was basically writing the reverse of a movie novel adaptation, at that point.

i didn't even think of it that way

They announced a release date for Jul 2025 so just barely over a year from now and the attached director from when this was announced already bailed out for it being too rushed and no room for new ideas. lol
This will get delayed for sure but it definitely doesn't inspire any confidence.

kinda has a "Flintstones" vibe to it almost lol

Scarlet Johansson is leading it.


https://www.darkhorizons.com/scarjo-...urassic-world/

Title may be "Jurassic World Rebirth."

https://www.darkhorizons.com/next-ju...-gets-a-title/

Jurassic World: Rebirth sounds like a horror movie and im all for it.

Honestly they might as well. The "adventure/action" thing they've been on with them isn't working.

So did anything important actually happen in the last movie? Can they please just adapt the part in the second book where the Dinosaurs just got brain rot and died already?

^ Haha what? Never realized Scarlett Johansson is the same age as me. Looked it up after reading that.

Making it a midquel is interesting but I don’t know it seems like a big step backwards. I prefer a sequel that does something in civilization.

I still think a tv series would be better. So many locations you can set different stories in. I’m definitely still excited for another movie though.

They technically do have the animated show on Netflix that's taking place at the same time as the movies.

I haven’t seen it but I’d like too. It takes place in civilization now right? I looked up a few episode descriptions. I know it started on the islands.

The first show takes place during the events of Jurassic World and Fallen Kingdom. Chaos Theory takes place during Dominion.