UnitedHealth CEO assassinated
 

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/uni...-24/index.html

https://www.foxnews.com/us/unitedhea...laying-sources

Apparently the killer used a fake ID and paid in cash to stay at the hostel he did. Also, used a burner phone (to call who?).

100 percent a hired hitman.

No idea about motive though.

And without missing a beat, all of the leftists are celebrating this. Why is it always the leftists with this kind of stuff?

Might be something to do with this...


https://i.redd.it/b5mig0sj315e1.png


In related news, Anthem has already decided to roll back its decision to time limit coverage on anaestesia use in operations based on expected duration of said procedures.

Or maybe it's mental health.

They view the world through the internet. It’s just a meme to them.

It really is. Like if tomorrow the headline was, "Biden assassinated" or "Nancy Pelosi assassinated" I wouldn't be grinning or laughing and fist pumping. I'd decry it and feel bad all around because that shouldn't be happening. But these people really seem to have the religion that, anyone that is remotely an "enemy" of their worldview... well, they just ought to be dead. It's childish and reprehensible and horrible. These kind of people should never, ever be trusted to have power.

I don’t think the right-wingers and libertarians are exactly mourning this guy. The mainstream media is blowing this up because he is a rich CEO. Meanwhile, the average person is trying to figure how they’re going to afford their groceries as well as Christmas presents.

Keep in mind, big pharma hasn’t been kind and fair to the People. I’m not at all condoning what this assassin did. I’m just saying, they are bringing this upon themselves with their greed.

This is kind of betraying a pretty big ignorance in how healthcare actually works.

The US healthcare system is a joke. Other countries treat their citizens better when it comes to their medical needs and coverage, and we’re supposed to be the “model” country for them to admire and envy?

That's been all of human history. Some are just more honest about it than others.

Oh wow, I didn't think we'd fully agree on something one day.

The fact is, he was the head of an incredibly unpopular health insurer with a track record of rejecting a third of all claims automatically, earned over $10M last year, and likely caused thousands of deaths as a result of rejecting covering vital operations and procedures. The fact few people are mourning this assassination is completely telling.

Neither did I :lol:

You might not be, but I can easily bet a whole swathe of MAGA cultists would.

That's not the way it works and he's certainly not the avatar of any of those things.

I think there's a radically big difference between not mourning the guy and actively celebrating his assassination. I didn't realize it even needed to be said, but then again... here we are.

What is "actively celebrating" in this case? Some idiots on facebook posting firework emojis or people literally dancing in the streets?

I've barely paid a moments attention to this story, and it's a shame that anyone would be murdered -- well, maybe with some exceptions for ridding the world of terrorists, serial killers, etc -- but if those denials numbers are legit... it would not surprise me at all if the guy is some angry, unstable nut who has a now-deceased family member who was denied. :ohwell: It's so random of a target to choose otherwise, like you'd have to be pretty invested to even care who the CEO was, huh?


As for anyone supposedly "celebrating"... On one hand, yeah, it's kind of low if so, they're forgetting the human side of a murder. On the other, people feel poorly about our healthcare system and these companies, who profit well from it, who forget the human side themselves, esp when they deny or limit potentially lifesaving treatments. This guy's death won't change how it's run, so it's only a potentially empty sense of "sticking it to them."

Fake ID and burner phone suggest hired by someone, which is the angle the authorities are looking at.

The U.S. Healthcare system is actually a free-market marvel but I don't expect literally ANYONE here to be able to compute that in it's entirety.

The U.S. insurance and coverage system on the other hand is highly problematic and is a mismatch of free-market solutions vs consumer expectations. Another point I don't expect literally ANYONE here to be to compute in it's entirety.

It's a very complex engine in a free-market solutions situation. The best thing that consumers in the U.S. can learn about "healthcare" is to equate it more like Wal-Mart vs Target. It's all just a place of business and you can leverage that, but people don't do it because there's this "mystique" that "Doctors are there to help you so you 'just' go to one".

Basically the biggest problem with U.S. healthcare are American citizens who put zero effort into understanding it. Most of the other problems actually fall underneath that, but again I don't expect anyone here to truly wrap their heads around that or want to wrap their head's around it.

But if you know how to use the healthcare system to the best of your ability we easily have the best in the world.

Same people that wished all the unvaccinated would just drop dead.

'Get the shot or get shot". and all that.

Healthcare should be a right not a privilege. You pay for a privilege. The only privilege here is that you have the choice to use the NHS or go private.

And besides, the survival rates for a number of chronic conditions suggests otherwise re America having the best healthcare system. So you’re sometimes paying through the nose and still not getting as good care as many other countries.

Healthcare should be a "right". But your regular bull$#!( semantics aside, you can't force someone to give enough a $#!( about you to care for you. In tribal days people were denied healthcare from the tribe all the time unless the tribe needed them specifically for something.

Obviously we have different worldviews now over our tribal past, but the simple fact is that you cannot in ethical society, ironically enough, compel anyone to take care of you. And that is why there are free market solutions even for that. But healthcare isn't an 'inalienable right' because it requires other people to take care of you - and at the end of the day those people have a choice to do it or not. Freedom is a "right" because it requires nothing of others beyond "letting you be 'free". There is a huge difference.

Either way, America has the best healthcare system, even when it is restricted by government in terms of drug certifications and whatnot.

Lmao, one of the most insane things I have ever seen on the internet.

:lol: It's true. Total sum, regulation included, it's 100% true.

How indoctrinated are you?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ies-worldwide/

US is 69th in the world…

Also…


https://i.imgur.com/8SWYSK8.jpeg

"Show me how you don't know anything you're talking about in one post." Yeah, that about sums up my thoughts there.

So there appears to now be cosplay competitions springing up celebrating the hitman and there are fanfics being written about him on Archive of our Own

Tf... Some days I hate that people have access to the internet.

Though I'd be willing to bet that some of those are the drama whore type of people who enjoy stirring up outrage, whether anyone is actually doing that, or someone is just creating rumors of it.

Yes, I'm sure the "everyone" you see in social media from your "friends" are totally bipartisan... or sane.

I'm starting to see people take things a step further on Facebook and Instagram. Now these lefties have moved on from memes and celebration and now they're posting pictures and names of other healthcare CEOs.

*Edit: Sounds like they got their suspect. Luigi Mangione.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/un...tes-12-09-2024

A damn dirty Italian!

Now there better start being some Waluigi memes to keep things fair!

Was this guy stupid, instead of staying low profile or undercover, he just goes back to work like nothing happened? I remember people thinking he fled the country.

Apparently him just nervously bumbling around with his batch of fake IDs in a random McDonald's did him in. But yeah, we can retire the whole "Wow, this was a super cold-as-ice super trained assassin" thing. If he'd just chilled out on splaying out fake IDs in front of restaurant employees for a few more weeks, he probably would have gotten away with this.

Sidenote: a few hours ago you could readily find his Instagram and Facebook. Not much there recently but it was interesting what was. Now there's suddenly hundreds of fake accounts just created in the last couple of hours and I can't find them anymore.

His twitter if anyone is interested: https://x.com/PepMangione

Dude looks like the sorta guy who might have been voted “most likely to succeed” in his high school.
https://i.imgur.com/gaBlQ1Gl.jpg

Apparently the gun is 3D printed, so he certainly has the nous and money...


Also cynical, but true given "they not takin' ma guuuuuuns!" especially as above...


https://i.imgur.com/NAaJ6Eb.jpeg

So they're finally filming the sequel to Mario 93?

Nintendo wondering why "Luigi" is trending right now...


https://media1.tenor.com/m/zBOZbwKaj...uigi-mario.gif

Look at this piece of sh**.

Justice will be served. No matter what the motive, he still shot and skilled an (innocent) man in cold blood. You kill someone and you go to jail. All murderers shall pay for their crimes.